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Call of Duty®: Modern Warfare® |OT| No Russian To Buy Lootboxes
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I'll have to play the game for a bit for myself, but I wouldn't be surprised if the 725 and M4 nerfs were indeed very minor. Right direction, though.
It's fine!
It's fine!
Same lol
Edit - as soon as I said that finally started 5 minutes later.
Yeah, played a few matches. Nothing changed except the sprint speed which is good. Claymores still strong, 725 is still the go-to weapon of most, footsteps are super loud still. Sigh.
At least we're headed in the right direction, but man, IW really needs to bring YouTubers up to their base and have soak in suggestons. I'd say bring in regular Joes, but they'll never do that (which Ubi does for The Division).
At least we're headed in the right direction, but man, IW really needs to bring YouTubers up to their base and have soak in suggestons. I'd say bring in regular Joes, but they'll never do that (which Ubi does for The Division).
There's a bug that it needs 64 players before one match can start or something.
Maybe people are leaving and are searching for the new map. Is it in rotation already?
Edit: started for me too finally
Now I keep having a issue on Ground War where if I can't spawn on a squadmate while attempting to, it keeps bringing up the loadout menu... how annoying lol
Edit - also seems to happen every time a point that I have selected that turns red I can't spawn on, pls just stop already
Edit - also seems to happen every time a point that I have selected that turns red I can't spawn on, pls just stop already
Basically a tamagotchi in your watch that feeds off your kills. They showed it off before release but it's nowhere to be found in the game.
After playing a while I must say the M4 is still too strong. It needs a straight damage nerf, not just a range reduction. It was always a high fire rate, low damage weapon but here it is high RoF and high damage.
Also it could just be my imagination but I had far fewer insta deaths in the few matches I played today. Could be that they stealth tweaked the netcode.
F*ck Ground War and SpecOps, for now lmao.
Could be my last CoD purchase. I managed to drop FIFA too.
Could be my last CoD purchase. I managed to drop FIFA too.
After a quick round of FFA... nothing really changed. Meta is still M4/725/claymore spam, footsteps still loud, camping still dominant.
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Camping won't change unless they actually change the maps
Just won an FFA 23-3. The prior match I got owned because I played run'n'gun and everybody was camping. Started doing the same again and dominated. The patch points out they are acknowledging issues but it seems like they can't/won't quite pull the trigger on drastic changes yet.
So the meta Hasn't changed at all? That's a bit of a bummer. Also surprised to see smgs get buffed while semi auto remains unchanged. Would have at least expected them to reduce recoil on FAL and famas and maybe increase dmg range.
At least glad to see that they are trying to head in the right direction. I just hope that the patches wont take too long.
At least glad to see that they are trying to head in the right direction. I just hope that the patches wont take too long.
Played a couple of quick rounds and while running feels much better now, everything else does seem like same old, same old. Still getting hipfire OHK'd by the 725 from far away. So the patch ain't gonna be enough for me, but hopefully the new 6v6 map is good and maybe I'll get a few dozen matches of fun out of it.
I'm also getting fucking wrecked. Like, <0.3kdr wrecked. Not sure what's going on.
I'm also getting fucking wrecked. Like, <0.3kdr wrecked. Not sure what's going on.
I was also getting destroyed. The match I mentioned earlier (only 1 of 2 I managed to sneak in my lunch break) I was going 1-3, so I figured that the meta didn't change fuckall, captured a great camping spot (killing the previous camper holding said position) and sat there to the end. 21 kill streak, 22-3, I won the FFA. Claymores are still stupidly OP, they blow up immediately and you can't do fuck about it. One even managed to kill me despite having the flak jacket on (maybe they were two on top of each other?). There's still no reason to expose yourself at all, just stay inside, protect the entrances with claymores and sneak around like a newcomer. It's the most effective strategy even after the patch sadly :(
IW haven't mentioned anything about any old maps no, however, thegamingrevolution who leaks a lot of stuff (and gets most of it right) has said a lot of the old maps are returning, you'll have to go through his twitter to find specifically which ones, and there is a map list floating about (with the new GW and 6v6 map on it) that looks like this:
What I'm really hoping for is Christmas Crash (which I never got on the 360).
Not happy. The latest patch has completely tanked my performance on PC. The menus and the beginning of matches are a jittery mess, not to mention the meta hasn't even changed. Did they even nerf the 725?
Please no, I hated that and all the other goofy variant maps they did.
I wasn't looking for an argument over it, I was just saying they've been in CoD for ages....
I don't think they have done enough, I love reskinned maps for some reason :/
I guess because we missed out on some maps from COD 4 (if I remember right) and it was a 'new thing' for me back then, I really wanted anything I could get my hands on at the time, so yeah, it would be more because I never got to play it that I want it, however, I've really enjoyed the later games with different themed maps also. Each to their own :)
Balancing shotguns has to be the hardest thing in a game that promotes itself as striving for a more "realistic" take on warfare.
On one hand, yeah it is frustrating and somewhat limits the gameplay opportunities of other weapons, but on the other hand... a shotgun that isn't a one hit kill at close to mid range would seem a bit weird?
Sure, the range can be tweaked somewhat (seeing those outrageous longshots certainly made me laugh), but what is it that people want? 2 hits from a shotty to get a kill in a game where TTK is extraordinarily low?
I don't think we'll ever have something that isn't constantly complained about tbh.
On one hand, yeah it is frustrating and somewhat limits the gameplay opportunities of other weapons, but on the other hand... a shotgun that isn't a one hit kill at close to mid range would seem a bit weird?
Sure, the range can be tweaked somewhat (seeing those outrageous longshots certainly made me laugh), but what is it that people want? 2 hits from a shotty to get a kill in a game where TTK is extraordinarily low?
I don't think we'll ever have something that isn't constantly complained about tbh.
Oh man I laughed out loud at work watching this. I'm still chuckling.
The thing about shotguns and realism is that they would be lethal much further out than they are in games but only against flesh. Unless the shotgun is firing slugs then the pellets will be near useless against all but the cheapest kevlar. Throw in a ballistic plate and the pellets are just going to tickle. Most of the skins in CoD games have a good bit of armor on.
A realistic shotgun is a horrible idea in a videogame, especially if videogames are done like this. In COD (and most games), when your HP reaches 0 you die on the spot, you don't agonize for half an hour (because that, too, wouldn't be much fun). A shotgun in real life is pretty lethal even from 30 meters, but you don't get blown to pieces in the instant it hits you, it's possible you just get some shrapnel that damages you but you get to carry on, or you're grounded by the impact (but you have a flak jacket so you don't necessarily die, in fact chances are the pellets don't do much damage at all from a large distance if you have a good vest) but manage to take out a pistol, a grenade or something. The 725 right now kills you the instant it hits you, nearly anywhere it hits you, nearly from any distance. That makes it effectively more lethal than in real life.
And then there's of course the weapon balance. Why would anybody pick an AR, an SMG, a sniper rifle on small-medium sized maps when any distance you can find an enemy can be used to instagib your opponent as if it was that mode in Unreal Tournament? A smart game designer would make it that the pellet spread is high so that it's only truly lethal from close-up. It would make reload times comparably pretty enormous. Hell, it could even cause reduced mobility because you need less precision with a spray-and-pray gun compared to one where you get only 1-2 chances before having to initialize a lengthy reload. I also think that it's stupid that changing weapons is far quicker than any reload in such games because it renders reloading a moot option whereas in real life it would still probably be the best option unless you hide a loaded and cocked gun in your sleeve or something (rather unsafe), but that's a discussion for another day.
The Super Shotgun in Doom II back in 1994 did this the correct way: the pellets spread just felt balanced for a videogame. You get one shot which deals absurd damage close-up, one shotting enemies in most cases. At any large distance it's like a peashooter, making other weapons far preferable and keeping a heavy balance that makes you rotate weapons organically (albeit it can't be fully compared with COD as you can have like 10 different weapons at the same time there, you're not forced to pick two and deal with those only). Not only that, but if you miss your shot at eliminating the enemy, you will have to reload for a couple seconds, and the reload animation can not be interrupted - another element that makes it harder to cheese the shotgun like in COD or Halo where you could land a shotgun hit debilitating your opponent, then finish 'em off with a pistol or something equally quick.
In a fast-paced arena shooter like Call Of Duty, a realistic shotgun makes no sense. There has to be compromises on its use, otherwise you get a situation not unlike the 725 now: everybody uses that option because it largely trumps any other option, including snipers that only really matter on 10v10 or 32v32 maps at this point. If they want a realistic weapon balance that makes shotguns as they are, they should also consider putting long (manual?) reloads for them with no chance to simply switch to another weapon in the blink of an eye. Or stop with the self-regenerating claymores or other definitely not too realistic options.
I mean, I use the pump shotgun(680 I think) and get hit markers at a certain distance which makes sense. All of the kills with the over/under shotgun are almost OHK at the same range including hip fire. That doesn't make sense.
Games taking 5+ minutes to start, and every time I had to respawn, my loadout menu was popping up constantly on the respawn menu. Really fking annoying.
Not sure if people were having that other issue, but it seemed like when I was hovering over a teammate to spawn on them, and they go red (meaning I can't spawn on them), it would bring up the loadout menu. Also happened when enemies were on a point, making it red or if they took over a location.
Sat on the respawn menu to see how much it would do it and it happened like 30 times within a minute lol
Weird thing is, I've had this issue happen before.. but not this much, way far less..
Edit - Yup looked it up and other people having the same loadout issue.
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The 725 is the same OP shit.
M4 has a bit more recoil. SMGs are better now with the increased speed (they were already good)
Claymores from certain angles, if you have full HP, will not kill you.
Idk why but the IQ on xbox one x seems worse. But it's probably just me.
M4 has a bit more recoil. SMGs are better now with the increased speed (they were already good)
Claymores from certain angles, if you have full HP, will not kill you.
Idk why but the IQ on xbox one x seems worse. But it's probably just me.
Apparently lol, hope it's fixed up by the time the new map comes out, really want a new ground war map to mess around with.
I imagine considering the severity of the bug they will roll out a hotfix before the map comes out.
So what do you think? Is a 2 hit kill more viable for the sake of realism, balance and most of all fun? I understand there has to be a point where "fun" and "realism" converge to provide a decent playing experience.
To my mind, this is how previous CoD games handled their shotgun pellet spread isn't it? Lethal at close distance, all but useless at further targets? (In fact we see it on the 680!) Why did IW think the change would be beneficial, I don't find it too frustrating (at close range), but I can certainly see the argument for how it's ruining the weapon variety. I agree for the most part that a "more realistic" take on a shotgun in a twitch shooter such as this is a bad idea, but I do also worry about weapon viability.
For the most part, I've never seen shotguns take a presence in CoD over say, SMG's, AR's or LMG's (admittedly, I don't keep up with the meta on such games, so I may have missed something!) but the last time I remember shotguns being a big deal in CoD was the Akimbo mess from MW2.
Hopefully they can strike the right balance between fun and fair and that post-nerf, the shotguns are made pointless.
Yeah, given the damage drop off that the R-90 and 680 get at range, it seems only right the 725 should be similar unless equipped with barrel mods, slugs or something else.
I don't mind the close range damage but it's the mid-to-long engagements where it's still dealing stupid damage that's annoying to me.
I've had this before too! Think domination can't end in a draw?
It was like 4am and I corrected it literally minutes later I mistyped because I was tired as fuck. If you actually quoted the correct post you would see it was changed.
I didn't say shit about drop shots in the quote above it was a direct response to your stupid post about removing jump shots I didn't think I had to.
I'm not the one stating jump shooting wasn't a thing until blops 4.
You must be playing a different game Game as I and others have said it's always been a thing.
this is the best comeback you got. yeah you got me on a typo bro at 4 am while I was awake because I couldn't sleep.
Anyone complaining about jump shots isn't good at the game that's a given. I never said I was a "pro" or whatever.
You are literally crying about people trying to avoid your shots. would you like them not to strafe as well we should just stand still for you right ?
You quoted the wrong post that one Says nothing about drop shots 🙄
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The score was 199-199. So the team with 2 points at the time got 2 score and the other team got 1.