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What mode are you going to play first?

  • Campaign

    Votes: 1,203 62.2%
  • Special Ops

    Votes: 31 1.6%
  • Multiplayer

    Votes: 699 36.2%

  • Total voters
    1,933

kratos2412

Member
Nov 3, 2018
740
Germany
MW:R reminded me how far we've come, if anything. Terrible spawns, bad weapon balance, OP killstreaks that even count as further kills in your streak so you can have choppers effectively generate other choppers. There were fun times, some good maps and such, but the game didn't age all that gracefully in many ways. Black Ops 2 feels like a game from another generation given how many issues from MW1-3 it fixed.

I agree with everything you have said in this thread, lmao.
 

Deleted member 2254

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Oct 25, 2017
21,467
It is irksome. There are poor choices to the extent that I have to wonder what the multiplayer designers were thinking.

Claymores have been an issue in the series - multiple games in the franchise have tried to address their balance, some have omitted them entirely. So you would think, in designing a new Call of Duty, it would be a known trouble area. Yet in the game you can have two of them, you can put them behind doors, you can have them replenish, they explode without a chance to move away.

As you highlighted there's pointstreaks. In Modern Warfare 3 it was identified that the killstreak system didn't encourage team behaviour. That has been expanded on in all of the Call of Duty games since. In this game you have to use a perk slot to be rewarded for playing the objective. Why?

It's really bizzare. There's 12 years of these games to look at, within the franchise and outside of it, and there are glaring mistakes that you think would get caught at the concept stage.

Exactly! People asked for them to get away from futuristic stuff, from wallrunning and double jumps, from the unicorn vomit artstyle. Nobody asked for the removal of a decade of balancing. Imagine if FIFA 2021 suddenly went back to the less natural movements or the more limited defense options of FIFA 09 just because some people weren't appreciating other recent changes.
 

poklane

Member
Oct 25, 2017
27,900
the Netherlands
I hope BO keeps specialists. I really liked having different characters with abilities.
If they bring back Specialists their weapons and abilities should be earned just like Scorestreaks instead of guaranteeing everyone gets them at least once, getting killed because of extremely powerful weapons and abilities your enemy didn't even have to earn is easily the most annoying part of BO3 and BO4.
 

Crocodilelogic

Attempted to circumvent ban with an alt account
Banned
Oct 29, 2017
728
No need to nerf the 725. The only time I get killed by the 725 is on Hackney Yard since everyone likes to go to the warehouse and battle it out.

I'm convinced due to skill based matchmaking i'm playing a totally different game than some of you guys. every lobby I play is nothing but m4 and 725.
 

Deleted member 2254

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Oct 25, 2017
21,467
If they bring back Specialists their weapons and abilities should be earned just like Scorestreaks instead of guaranteeing everyone gets them at least once, getting killed because of extremely powerful weapons and abilities your enemy didn't even have to earn is easily the most annoying part of BO3 and BO4.

That would be a good solution. Have 2 or 3 regular pointstreak slots and one reserved for your specialist class. Also look at BO4 where a lot of abilities were effectively team-based abilities as opposed to just kill machines. That was a breath of fresh air, a COD game actually pushing teamwork, but it was undercooked as many things in the game. They can definitely iterate on that in the next game(s).
 

poklane

Member
Oct 25, 2017
27,900
the Netherlands
That would be a good solution. Have 2 or 3 regular pointstreak slots and one reserved for your specialist class. Also look at BO4 where a lot of abilities were effectively team-based abilities as opposed to just kill machines. That was a breath of fresh air, a COD game actually pushing teamwork, but it was undercooked as many things in the game. They can definitely iterate on that in the next game(s).
Honestly would love it if they removed the Specialist Weapons/Abilities and just turned them into Scorestreaks not tied to specific Specialists.
 

HiLife

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
39,625
Come to think of it, I don't even think my matches in the beta finished all the way through to the max points. Lol.
 

The Artisan

"Angels are singing in monasteries..."
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Oct 27, 2017
8,096
You can send them a request in-game. In the multiplayer menu press triangle to open the social screen, then press triangle again to open up the menu to find friends. There you can send them a request using their Activision account or their Gamertag, just be sure you select the right option in the drop-down.
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Kidding.

You can send your friend an invite by typing in his/her Activision username in menu Social > Friends > add friend.

Edit: beaten
Thank you. I haven't tried adding someone in the group through an Activision account so I guess I'll have to make one too
 

Paquete_PT

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
5,317
I don't know if this is a stupid question, but my NAT type is currently on moderate, would it help me to get it to open? In terms of better connection and less lag?
 

DrewFu

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Apr 19, 2018
10,360
Is anyone else having a problem getting into matches currently? I'm sitting at looking for more players. Is this already dead?

If I can't even get a match for either Dom (I also have KC in there), that ain't good.
 
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Brohan

The Fallen
Oct 26, 2017
2,544
Netherlands
I don't know if this is a stupid question, but my NAT type is currently on moderate, would it help me to get it to open? In terms of better connection and less lag?

Getting it to open wont do anything for improving ping. It will just make your connection less strict which might help you connect to others better (potentially more games) and should reduce the chance of being booted from games and party chats etc.
 

Charismagik

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,184
Some do, but the satisfaction of getting them before they do is worth it

currently addicted to the mode tho, my run and gun lone wolf style is making me kindagood at it

headquarters is also not broken
Kill confirmed is the only mode worth playing for me. Most people are running around instead of sitting in corners all day. I want to see a big game version of it
 

DrewFu

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Apr 19, 2018
10,360
Is anyone else having a problem getting into matches currently? I'm sitting at looking for more players. Is this already dead?

If I can't even get a match for either Dom (I also have KC in there), that ain't good.
So is this just me?
 

EvilChameleon

Member
Oct 25, 2017
23,793
Ohio
I'm still a little shocked we haven't seen a blog post or something outside of Twitter replies from Infinity Ward saying their thoughts on the opening week, what they are working on, a roadmap, etc.
 

Dog

Cat
Member
Oct 25, 2017
12,067
I just spent almost 2 hours running around in hardcore modes and some ground war with just the Desert Eagle.

Lol, mad fun.
 

SecondNature

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,157
How much longer until we can get a patch or more in depth promises of change.

The 725 is killing entire lobbies.
 

Dog

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Member
Oct 25, 2017
12,067
Tomorrow after my Handgun challenge completion I have a kill 200 players Shotgun officer challenge to do. I'm not going to use the 725 though, I hate that gun don't wanna be like everyone else running it.
 

Trimble

Member
Nov 26, 2017
99
I have this theory that those who defend this shit of a game are those who either don't play COD regularly, or do bad in 'em. Now, they can finally say they're good at a COD game even if that means going 5-2 an entire match.

I'm enjoying it, and I've played a fair amount of COD and do pretty well. But thinking about it and I don't think I've played any of the Black Ops series. I've switched to Battlefield for the most part. Maybe that has something to do with it.
 

Gobsmack

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Nov 5, 2019
16
Game is already back behind fortnite after a week on Xbox most played. I have a 2+kd but just dont find this playstyle fun. Everyone that seems to like this seems to be the same ones calling BO4 and such too fast paced lol.

Here are the list of odd design choices:

  • Loud footstep audio favours those not moving
  • Mounting allows headglitching with low recoil, also encourages not moving and lane watching...which can kill flankers.
  • Regular ADS sprint out time + multiple penalties on ads time with attachement stacking = promotes not moving
  • Spawns not flipping discourages flanking enemy positions as enemies will spawn behind you
  • No captures in Dom, No K/D in TDM, no confirms in KC... Simply put wtf?
  • SBMM makes these issues intensified as everyone is using everyone advantage to do well. Makes Meta guns mandatory.
This CoD, and I do not mean this in a bad way, seems aimed at battlefield/tacticoool kids, and dads. I can see my dad loving this game lol.
 

Ocarina_117

Member
Oct 26, 2017
9,562
Finished the campaign just now

.... was this a stealth prequel to the old Modern Warfare series or is this a launch pad for a new story?
 

GrubChub

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
1,106
I truly don't understand how they have done NOTHING with Picadilly yet. The spawn system is so broken on every map, but that one just really screws you over so much harder. Have fun in the outside hallway so you can be killed constantly by all of the trash players that just want to camp the spawn.
 
Oct 27, 2017
16,559
I'm still a little shocked we haven't seen a blog post or something outside of Twitter replies from Infinity Ward saying their thoughts on the opening week, what they are working on, a roadmap, etc.
They won't say anything till the overhaul is close to done or they have another patch. The communication is disgusting when you consider spec ops is broken as hell.