I live in a low cost of living state and I used to have to drive people (business men) from out of state around the city. They would often tell me how cheap things are here and would stock up on jeans and boots etc etc to take back home.
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I live in a low cost of living state and I used to have to drive people (business men) from out of state around the city. They would often tell me how cheap things are here and would stock up on jeans and boots etc etc to take back home.
This makes more sense to me than Texas if the main reason is to pay less in taxes. People moving from these "high tax" states/cities to places like Texas or Florida will be in for a surprise if they ever want to become homeowners in the major cities in these states and start paying those property taxes. The cost of housing in some of the major metro areas in Texas and Florida are going to become very unaffordable for the middle class very soon with rising home prices (especially in Texas) to go along with property taxes. I'm not from California, but I don't think the offset income taxes make that much of a difference unless you are making a pretty high income.
Yes Texas nearly 3% property taxes and sky-high insurance is great. The overall costs may be lower than Cali, but in the metro areas, prices continue to climb like you said.
Sorry Texans, I know a few people that just decided to get up and move to Texas without even thinking twice. They basically did it for the hell of it and thought it's the new place to be. Californians suck. Oh, and btw, people please stop moving to California!!! There are 48 other states to choose from besides Texas and Cali.
It's worth saying a good number of Californians moving to certain areas are actual "persecuted" Republicans. Areas like McKinney are attempting to become red strongholds with groups pushing the idea that you can move to those areas if you get fed up with how liberal California is.
Vice highlighted the phenomenon here:
Vice highlighted the phenomenon here:
Is it? I bet those red areas don't have to worry about Polls closing down or getting shuffled around randomly
a) The blue is where all the people live and where all the population is going
b) the poster you quoted is right but also incorrect - people ARE Moving to counties surrounding the cities and ARE turning them purple. For example, my county is the other blue county next to houston. it was a deep red county before and for the first time it's purple, electing democrats to countywide spots. it's a county that went blue for beto in 2018. the suburbs in Texas (aka the suburbs of Houston, Dallas, Austin, San Antonio, etc) is where the next battles will be.
15% is...completely proportional. Not sure why this is a big deal.
Also, wow at those pro-Texas slogans and signs against California.
You know a state where you DON'T see such insecurity manifesting itself in propaganda? California.
Whatever this supposed rivalry is, no Californian here seems to know about it.
We are talking 3-5% higher tax burden, in comparison to most U.S. states. And we actually have a somewhat fair tax ratio for lower to middle income citizens who live here.
It's not like we are 10-15% higher than all the other states, as so many seem to be implying.
It's even more ridiculous to cite that extra 3-4% as the main reason to move.
If you're wealthy, though, you're gonna get majorly taxed in CA - as should be the case.
Housing cost is, by far, the biggest monetary reason to move from CA. It's out of control. And ironically, the low property tax in CA is one of the reasons to blame for our high home prices.
Also, wow at those pro-Texas slogans and signs against California.
You know a state where you DON'T see such insecurity manifesting itself in propaganda? California.
Whatever this supposed rivalry is, no Californian here seems to know about it.
We are talking 3-5% higher tax burden, in comparison to most U.S. states. And we actually have a somewhat fair tax ratio for lower to middle income citizens who live here.
It's not like we are 10-15% higher than all the other states, as so many seem to be implying.
It's even more ridiculous to cite that extra 3-4% as the main reason to move.
If you're wealthy, though, you're gonna get majorly taxed in CA - as should be the case.
Housing cost is, by far, the biggest monetary reason to move from CA. It's out of control. And ironically, the low property tax in CA is one of the reasons to blame for our high home prices.
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Texas has better voting laws than some blue states.
Native Texans voted for native Texan Beto O'Rourke, transplants went for Ted Cruz, exit poll shows
WASHINGTON -- Sen. Ted Cruz and Rep. Beto O’Rourke fought during the Senate race over who was more Texan. It turns out that native Texan voters...
www.dallasnews.com
Now I feel stupidy. I'd expect that one of the states with the highest population would account for the highest migration to Texas.
I wish this could be on auto reply every time people complain about liberal policies making California too expensive. Now these people complaining about high taxes in California can go look for a house in Austin, Dallas, or Houston and enjoy calculating the property tax and insurance(especially in Houston).
Probably not. And blue areas generally have pretty wide opportunities to vote. I'm in a DFW suburb and get about two weeks to early vote (including weekends) at any voting location within the county. And day of, I think you're still able to vote anywhere within the county.
The only thing that's difficult is non-easy access to absentee ballots (and ID requirements). But in general, two weeks and any polling location is plenty to be able to find 20min to vote. At some point, people have to put in a basic level of effort to get to the polls.
The "high income taxes" subsection definitely are people making a high income. Those folks are, by and large, the tech and tech-related (i.e. Streamers) workforce who tend to be younger and also tend to be just fine with renting. So they get the break that they want in income taxes while still contributing to housing cost overall going up and putting stress on cities infrastructure (Austin was a mess 10 years ago, I can't imagine it now).
But generally, yes, people moving from California to Texas are running from the housing prices and higher cost of living. And even with Texas costs rising, it's still cheaper by comparison.
Also traffic++;
At least in Austin, that's the real reason people want this to stop
Yeah, I was gonna post this.
California only has about 12% of the population of the U.S., but, like...this is kind of a nothing story.
And I'm willing to bet a lot of those folks drive huge SUVs and are oblivious to the fact that they contribute to that problem.
I'm pretty sure the cost of housing will still be cheaper than the major metropolitan areas/tech sectors of CA, though, and will always be. If they ever reach equilibrium you'll the migration stop.
It isn't the housing prices have to become equal. The housing prices just have to increase enough to offset the difference in income tax with the increased property taxes.
So what happens when all these Californians drive up the cost of living in Texan cities? Do they or Texans just move to the next cities in 5-10 years and start the cycle all over again?
Because this endless rotation of passing the buck from city to city doesn't seem sustainable.
Because this endless rotation of passing the buck from city to city doesn't seem sustainable.
You know, I'd probably have to say that's more on the part of the 85% of people coming in from the rest of the states and countries, but that 15% IS a pretty dastardly bunch.
I know you just snap that off without thinking. But do more than a surface read of "R won, doom and gloom".
THey broke out every cheat in the book and it was still down to the wire. Abrhams lost by 55k votes the prvious Demo governor candiate lost by almost 5 times amount. The previous one by 6 times that amount. Georgia is trending blue and it might happen in the next election
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My wife is actually from Pasadena, CA and she says LA traffic IS worse. Even so....without the traffic Houston is so huge that to get to one cardinal direction of town to the other takes approximately an hour. So WITH traffic....yeah fuck all that.
It's kind of on where the jobs go, isn't it? Unless companies (even tech companies) trust their employees enough to make telecommuting more widespread, the cost of housing and everything else will go up when higher paying jobs become available there.
I hope bigotry dies forever. There is lots of great culture in Texas.
Yeah, the people in Washington I hear experss want to move seem more like they are Republican than Democrat (I don't live in Seattle, just near and we do have a decent amount of republicans here). And yes, they cite taxes. I doubt our transplants are going to make another state blue so much as make ours bluer by leaving.
omfg I'm stealing this. As a San Diegan, it's probably best that more of us are leaving california to hopefully turn other states a little more purple
It's not that I just snap it off without thinking but rather that I don't trust the rest of the state not to follow suit of other Red states and do everything in their power to reduce the effectiveness of Blue voters. Especially given how close it was last time.
I literally don't understand how people afford to live in coastal California these days. It seems most people have law degrees, MBAs, PhDs, and still struggle to afford a house.
