California prepares for new set of rolling lockdowns as ICUs fill

[Mandos]

News came out yesterday, but since there wasn't a dedicated thread, figured it was worth posting

Gov. Newsom announces new, regional stay-at-home order in California

The governor announced a new, regional stay-at-home order Thursday as an "emergency brake" to curb the rampant spread of COVID-19 in California. Here's what will need to shut down soon.

abc7news.com

5 regions, North California, South California, Bay Area, Greater Sacramento, and San Joaquin Valley. Will be enacted when ICU's fall below 15% capacity and last for at least 3 weeks. Similar to spring but retail gets a 20% restriction instead of a non essential full shutdown and schools that have opened stay open.
Hotels and motels have already been mandated to only allow essential travelers

Several Bay Area counties are enacting the lockdown early starting Sunday

Stay-at-home order enacted in 4 Bay Area counties, Marin Co. to join tomorrow

Alameda, Contra Costa, Santa Clara, San Francisco and the City of Berkeley enacted stay-at-home orders last night. Marin County will join the order tomorrow.

abc7news.com

Sigh yet this still won't be enough to keep my sis from flying home for Christmas... there seriously needs to be air travel restrictions, the fact there's been nothing imposed to make it more difficult means people are still traveling when they shouldn't be

 

[Mandos]

Order goes live Dec 6 at 11:59 PM PST. According to the official CA state page, the Southern California and San Joaquin Valley regions have both passed the threshold at 12.5% and 8.6%. Announcement for those regions going into lockdown should be tomorrow.
Here's the overall levels as of 11:40 dec 6

Several Bay Area counties plan to enact the lockdown early as well. Retail will be allowed to stay open at 20% this time but outdoor dining will be shutdown. Some schools will be kept open as well.

 

[Deleted member 5359]

Nobody is going to pay attention to it.

 

[Corran Horn]

Nobody is going to pay attention to it.

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Yep sadly only people who will listen were the people already taking it seriously.

 

[Mandos]

Nobody is going to pay attention to it.

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I mean hotel/motels and campgrounds shutting down again should help with out of state travel... but considering I posted this thread yesterday and the first reply was after an update should tell you what you need to know...

 

[feline fury]

Dang, San Joaquin Valley getting pummeled.

Definitely seeing an uptick in COVID admissions in our hospital. Hope we can keep our heads above water.

 

[Mandos]

Dang, San Joaquin Valley getting pummeled.

Definitely seeing an uptick in COVID admissions in our hospital. Hope we can keep our heads above water.

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Considering the full thanksgiving hospitalization wave should be next week, good luck you guys could edge pretty dang close to 0% capacity left at this rate... gotta talk my sis out of flying down with her family for Christmas... only thing is it's for her spouse's family not ours so we'll see. Hopefully his work mandates it like thanksgiving

 

[feline fury]

Considering the full thanksgiving hospitalization wave should be next week, good luck you guys could edge pretty dang close to 0% capacity left at this rate... gotta talk my sis out of flying down with her family for Christmas... only thing is it's for her spouse's family not ours so we'll see. Hopefully his work mandates it like thanksgiving

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Oh, I'm in the Bay Area, not SJV. Our ICU vacancy is still in the 20%+ last I checked but there's still a whole non-ICU wing with COVID patients.

 

[maxxpower]

Wow, this thread is dead. Nobody gives a shit about these lockdowns since nobody enforces them. Also, Orange County already bitching about it. God OC is insufferable.

 

[m_shortpants]

Wow, this thread is dead. Nobody gives a shit about these lockdowns since nobody enforces them. Also, Orange County already bitching about it. God OC is insufferable.

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This. There needs to be threat of enforcement.

 

[Mandos]

Oh, I'm in the Bay Area, not SJV. Our ICU vacancy is still in the 20%+ last I checked but there's still a whole non-ICU wing with COVID patients.

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Oh good luck then, at least you guys are voluntarily locking down early this week(assuming you're in one of the four bay counties that are).

Wow, this thread is dead. Nobody gives a shit about these lockdowns since nobody enforces them. Also, Orange County already bitching about it. God OC is insufferable.

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We need 24/7 footage of the overflowing hospitals, thankfully we aren't Texas with the overflowing morgues yet but that didn't get coverage either. They need to hammer in our medical system is imploding and everyone is going to be effected. Heck stemming air travel would be a huge step

 

[somerandomweirdguy]

Yep, as long as local law enforcement and city officials won't enforce anything, all the laws in the world won't matter

 

[maxxpower]

Yep, as long as local law enforcement and city officials won't enforce anything, all the laws in the world won't matter

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Hell, the cops in my county as anti maskers that don't wear masks. Par for the course though, since cops are shit.

 

[kIdMuScLe]

State mandated child care is still gonna be open as at the school I work at is still open... is dumb because parents just dump their kids for the whole day when is just supposed to be for the parents has to work and don't have a babysitter

 

[Mekanos]

It sucks because since this whole thing started I've been doing the same thing - staying home and only going out for food/shopping - but it seems like everyone else around me is trying to rationalize or justify their breaking of quarantine. I'll just have to keep hunkering down I guess. None of these rules affect me because I was already avoiding all of this! lol

 

[somerandomweirdguy]

Hell, the cops in my county as anti maskers that don't wear masks. Par for the course though, since cops are shit.

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Yep. Our county sheriff has already publicly straight up said "I won't enforce anything."

 

[Mandos]

It sucks because since this whole thing started I've been doing the same thing - staying home and only going out for food/shopping - but it seems like everyone else around me is trying to rationalize or justify their breaking of quarantine. I'll just have to keep hunkering down I guess. None of these rules affect me because I was already avoiding all of this! lol

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Same. Cept I have forced family contact because I live on my folks property. Hopefully I can talk my little sis out of flying down with her family(or better yet her spouse's work doesn't allow them to travel).

 

[Thordinson]

Yep, as long as local law enforcement and city officials won't enforce anything, all the laws in the world won't matter

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This isn't a problem that can be fixed by fines or jail time.

 

[Feep]

We need to wage a PR campaign. Get a documentary team in hazmat suits in hospitals, air that shit on TV, internet, whatever. No one *sees* the devastation in hospitals so they don't care, because humans are fucking idiots.

 

[iareharSon]

Santa Clara County is always the first to pull the trigger. I work pretty closely with the county and Sara Cody, and think we're doing a pretty great job of managing it - despite the lack of Federal assistance.

 

[KtotheRoc]

I saw people cheering officers saying they wouldn't enforce this on my social media feed.

We're so fucked.

 

[Kintaro]

This isn't a problem that can be fixed by fines or jail time.

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Then community service at a hospital or morgue.

 

[iareharSon]

This isn't a problem that can be fixed by fines or jail time.

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Fines would definitely help.

 

[Emergency & I]

Live in the South Bay LA. The urgent cares look insanely busy.

 

[Thordinson]

Then community service at a hospital or morgue.

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It might work but enforcement would not be fair like every other interaction with police.

Fines would definitely help.

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Fining poor people doesn't help. We all know who would be disproportionately given fines.

 

[iareharSon]

It might work but enforcement would not be fair like every other interaction with police.



Fining poor people doesn't help. We all know who would be disproportionately given fines.

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Definitely feel you on the inequity of enforcement with respect to various demographics. Purely anecdotal and specific to the South Bay, and I say this as someone who works for a public agency serving marginalized communities that partners with and funds Public Health, but a significant portion of the people not adhering to health guidelines aren't low-income. Go to Santana Row or The Alameda in San Jose to see what the problem is. Marginalized communities are the ones indirectly effected though, due to their jobs not being ones that can be worked remotely - and having living conditions that don't allow for social distancing.

 

[Deleted member 8118]

Meanwhile, my dad is flying into the Bay Area to visit his mom for her 90th birthday. Imbeciles.

I was in San Mateo for a moment back in October and people were out at restaurants like there was nothing going on.

I'm hoping that we can get this mess sorted out by next year, but with the way things are going, we're going to keep having outbreaks, regardless of vaccine. My school in SF is wanting to open up the campus in Fall 2021 - and they may be foregoing online lessons for most classes.

I'm just sick of this shit.

 

[Thordinson]

Definitely feel you on the inequity of enforcement with respect to various demographics. Purely anecdotal and specific to the South Bay, and I say this as someone who works for a public agency serving marginalized communities that partners with and funds Public Health, but a significant portion of the people not adhering to health guidelines aren't low-income. Go to Santana Row or The Alameda in San Jose to see what the problem is. Marginalized communities are the ones indirectly effected though, due to their jobs not being ones that can be worked remotely - and having living conditions that don't allow for social distancing.

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I'm not saying low-income people are the majority not following the rules. They will likely be the majority fined, however.

We've seen how fines don't stop well off people.

 

[Kintaro]

It might work but enforcement would not be fair like every other interaction with police.

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While true I (as a minority) have no issue with who has to do community service. POC and minorities should see what this virus is doing to people and community service at a hospital or morgue will hopefully make them realize. It doesn't have to be extreme just a few hours.

 

[Thordinson]

While true I (as a minority) have no issue with who has to do community service. POC and minorities should see what this virus is doing to people and community service at a hospital or morgue will hopefully make them realize. It doesn't have to be extreme just a few hours.

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I have a problem with burdening low-income people even more. If enforcement was fair, maybe I would be okay with it.

 

[Kintaro]

I have a problem with burdening low-income people even more. If enforcement was fair, maybe I would be okay with it.

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I personally don't care about your race or financial standing, if you are an idiot endangering others you should face consequences. Making someone do 8 hours is a minor inconvenience to see the realities going on around them. I'm not talking about simple mask infractions. I'm talking about egregious shit. My family pisses me off because some have been completely careless, thankfully it's not really immediate family. Well except for my dad, but if they made him do community service because he decided to have a big gathering so be it. My dad is about as low income as you can be just about. One day of community service is a minor burden.

 

[Midee]

I personally don't care about your race or financial standing, if you are an idiot endangering others you should face consequences.

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Unfortunately the police do very much care about your race and financial standing.

 

[Thordinson]

I personally don't care about your race or financial standing, if you are an idiot endangering others you should face consequences. Making someone do 8 hours is a minor inconvenience to see the realities going on around them. I'm not talking about simple mask infractions. I'm talking about egregious shit. My family pisses me off because some have been completely careless, thankfully it's not really immediate family. Well except for my dad, but if they made him do community service because he decided to have a big gathering so be it. My dad is about as low income as you can be just about. One day of community service is a minor burden.

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I understand the frustration. But this problem isn't solved by going through the justice system. What happens when people don't show up? Put them in jail? That won't solve anything and will actually make the situation worse.

Unfortunately the police do very much care about your race and financial standing.

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This.

 

[eyeball_kid]

Dang, San Joaquin Valley getting pummeled.

Definitely seeing an uptick in COVID admissions in our hospital. Hope we can keep our heads above water.

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When I was up there, almost no one was wearing a mask. So I can't say it's too surprising. But that area is very much a Fox News crowd.

In LA people are wearing masks more the past couple months, but people are still having private parties and get-togethers with friends. Masks to keep up appearances only.

 

[Distantmantra]

A guy I know on Untappd (beer social media app) drove from Nebraska and is currently drinking at The Bruery in OC right now, they're "getting their fill in" before the lockdown starts at midnight. WOW.

 

[Instro]

I like how cops won't enforce anything, whilst simultaneously wanting sympathy and extra pay for working during COVID.

 

[Steel]

We need to wage a PR campaign. Get a documentary team in hazmat suits in hospitals, air that shit on TV, internet, whatever. No one *sees* the devastation in hospitals so they don't care, because humans are fucking idiots.

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I was thinking, the millitary spends bundles creating propaganda and funding friendly movies all the time. If there was a similar government effort to put out a well-produced documentary, post it on youtube, air it on news channels, get that full blitz out there, more people would've, ya know, not been complete shitheads about it.

But we're past the point where that would be an option, I think. We're too close to the vaccine for people to suddenly take this more seriously. Honestly, I wish that there was no announcement on vaccines until the supply side part was already in motion, but... it's done.

 

[VorpalNonsense]

this might mean something if the cops werent shit
OC cops literally cruising around with blue lives matter stickers on their patrol cars
they wont enforce anything
the next month or two will be the worst
the vaccine cant get here soon enough

 

[Deleted member 42055]

this might mean something if the cops werent shit
OC cops literally cruising around with blue lives matter stickers on their patrol cars
they wont enforce anything
the next month or two will be the worst
the vaccine cant get here soon enough

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^^^^ says it all

 

[Mekanos]

this might mean something if the cops werent shit
OC cops literally cruising around with blue lives matter stickers on their patrol cars
they wont enforce anything
the next month or two will be the worst
the vaccine cant get here soon enough

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OC cops are such fucking chuds lmao. Just the biggest pissbabies imaginable.

 

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[Username1198]

Oh man GOOD THING casinos and card rooms are still open during a fucking pandemic!! People need to gamble cause um I don't know the reason. Thanks gov and tribes!! Way to take care of your employees!

 

[Mandos]

Oh man GOOD THING casinos and card rooms are still open during a fucking pandemic!! People need to gamble cause um I don't know the reason. Thanks gov and tribes!! Way to take care of your employees!

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They're on the shutdown list. Tribes are under their own authority though and there's nothing state goverment can do

 

[m_shortpants]

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Jesus Christ. Fucking people are so stupid.

 

[roflwaffles]

Lockdown is necessary but if I was a small business owner on my last legs, I'd be ignoring this too.

They need a stimulus program.

 

[Mandos]

Lockdown is necessary but if I was a small business owner on my last legs, I'd be ignoring this too.

They need a stimulus program.

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Small retail isn't getting shut down this time, just restricted to 20%. Only alcohol specialists, barbers, casinos and other close contact situations are. And outdoor dining. Outdoor services are also being allowed

 

[Mugsy]

Shit like this is why no one cares about lockdowns, they don't really mean anything unless you are responsible and doing it of your own volition anyway.

 

[MIMIC]

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Jeez, I was just coming into this thread to say how crazy 25k cases per day are.

 

[MIMIC]

We need to wage a PR campaign. Get a documentary team in hazmat suits in hospitals, air that shit on TV, internet, whatever. No one *sees* the devastation in hospitals so they don't care, because humans are fucking idiots.

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The US is over Covid. I figured that as soon as fans were allowed inside stadiums in certain sports, that spelled the end of general precautions. We're trying to get back to normal already.

 

[Mandos]

Well one sis is taking it super seriously which makes me happy even if it means I won't see her for a few weeks. Another is less so but respectful and recognizes what is too much. And the other hopefully can't travel due to spouse's work. Too bad I'm stuck back on my folks property and they just don't get it(well actually my dad got a mild case back in august... and got over it is the problem)