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Byleth from Fire Emblem: Three Houses announced for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (launches on January 28th for $5.99) [SEE STAFF POST]
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Amazing, I was going to post the same thing, but the image is perfect to illustrate the point. And people would still defend Plusle and Minun being "two in one", Emolga "having better recovery", Togedemaru being "heavier but stronger", and Morpeko having a different Final Smash. "The Pika clones are iconic, anyone who sees them instantly knows it's Pokemon, you can't add Greninja and alienate people who chose the other starters, or less important Pokemon like Lucario before the Pika clones".
Also the Hoes Mad has nothing to do with someone being a "real" FE fan or a not, it's just schandenfreude.
Many in the smash fan base are just overly invested in the line up, it's fun to see the salt when something you like or don't have a problem with flies in the face of their certainty.
I should know, I love 3H and wanted El ... but I'm cool with this. And I find this whole outcry funny af lol
Many in the smash fan base are just overly invested in the line up, it's fun to see the salt when something you like or don't have a problem with flies in the face of their certainty.
I should know, I love 3H and wanted El ... but I'm cool with this. And I find this whole outcry funny af lol
Oh. I still don't get how it relates to wanting a track from three Houses lol.
Probably helped if I played tales. But the games don't interest me.
The "Fire Emblem is popular enough to deserve more characters in every Smash game" argument kind of falls flat for me considering series like Kirby, Zelda, and Donkey Kong continually get snubbed despite being equally if not more popular and long-running. FE has been treated to a whopping 5 additional characters in Smash 4 and Ultimate while those other series were given... just King K. Rool, who fans literally had to beg for in the ballot.
Kirby, Zelda, and DK don't generally add new protagonists every game. Like many other franchises, they tend to have a handful of primary recurring characters. Hence why the Zelda reps get tweaked from game to game to represent new versions of themselves.
DK was getting new protagonists each game for a good while and Smash stopped after the second.
What if he's fun to play? I couldn't give less of a shit about K. Rool but I still play him every now and then because he's fun.
I play Smash to play as characters I already like. Terry is super fun to play IMO, but I never use him.
DKC1-3 all happened before Smash in the first place. I think if DKC3 came out today Dixie would be in the game.
Super facts
Still, I woulda loved GSS or Funeral for Flowers in there as well. A Star In The Morning Sky especially would have been amazing. 3H has such a great OST.
Tropical Freeze happened and Smash still doesn't have Funky Mode, smh
DK & Diddy have always been the primary characters of the franchise, starring in the original DKC, as well as being the 2 characters in DKC Returns. I would personally love to see Dixie Kong, but I do understand that she hasn't been in nearly the number of games that DK & Diddy have starred in (She really got screwed over by Tiny taking her spot in several games...). We can only hope that her return in Tropical Freeze firmly establishes her as the 3rd major protagonist in the series, and that Sakurai is interested in adding additional DKC representation.
Funky Kong is a light in the darkness, the most relatable DK character
The thing is FE is very much different yet similar to Pokemon.
For FE every game is a new cast of characters, there's no main protag that the series builds around or follows. Every big game is it's own new thing like Pokemon. If you keep trying to drag out characters from DK or Kirby beyond the core focus ones you'll gonna get side characters with lil importance at some point.
With Zelda the Problem seems to be that beyond the core cast every other character just gets replaced every game so Sakurai seems to treat the whole series as just Link/ Zelda/ Ganon.
But (regarding that "if Pokemon where treated like FE" post earlier) it's unlike Pokemon in that there IS a narrative "Main Character". So instead of looking at this gen's shill-mon to pick from he has a core, identifiable new Protag.
Like ... yeah, he can pick Tony the Tiger over the other starters if he wants. But even though El is the main character of the story she's only 1 of 3 paths you can pick. Prof is the only constant protag.
IMO FE is it's own special thing that gives Sakurai a ton of logical picks for new characters where he doesn't have to start grabbing side characters.
Thinking about it, I'm surprised they don't make new Pokemon Trainer characters for Smash every generation.
This post nails it. Even for me, having another FE rep isn't a huge deal. Hell, Three Houses was one of my favorite games of 2019. The problem is that Three Houses had better options that Sakurai & Nintendo passed over that could have helped with either the lack of characters who are primarily female or the lack of people of color, with the choice made only adding to the problems of the roster (which currently has the 3rd worst female fighter ratio of any modern fighting game). Is having Female Byleth better than nothing, yes. But it's far from sufficient, which I get to in the next post.
To quote what I said elsewhere...
They seem to have moved on to doing the evolved starters with Greninja and Incineroar, who knows if that will continue or not.
Dixie Kong, Cranky Kong, and Bandana Waddle Dee are still not in Smash. Why 5 FE lords and not any of them?
Radiant Dawn, not Path of Radiance; the latter was released a few months before Brawl, even though Brawl used the latter's character design.
Definitely not toxic anger to the point of harassing Sakurai (seriously, cut it out to those doing that, it's fucked up). But civilized criticism is fine & honestly justified in this case.
Trainers come with the expectation of multiple Pokemon, so while it would make sense that's a shit-ton of work.
Also Pokemon Trainer didn't work on 3DS.
I don't know about that. This isn't stuff you need to buy, no one is pointing a gun at your head and telling you you need to buy this character.
Constructive criticism is fine. But justified? That's a bit much for a toy.
Fair enough, the justified part was my own opinion creeping in. But yeah, there's no issue with constructive criticism. The problem is when it becomes toxic.
I'm not saying anger in a general sense is never OK.
But at a video game character reveal? Yeah, no.
I think your right. The amount of "hoes mad" post I've seen on my feed has been ridiculous. I personally think it's pathetic when I see people say they one a character just because it would make certain fans upset.
User banned (3 days): ignoring the staff post
Well, at least this reveal gave enough fuel for inspiration for loads and loads of memes...
Any chance of them darkening the Claude skin? I might lean towards female Byleth because the white skin just feels off....
It's not a Claude skin. It's Byleth dressing in Claude's clothing colors like other palette alts meant to reference characters.
Naah, I love spreading the Hoes Mad and I'm a straight up FE fan.
IMO it's pathetic to get so invested in the decisions of one man and what he chooses to add to this 1 great game.
"But I PAID-"
Then you took a gamble for a discount by choosing to buy something with out any idea what you would get but assumed that you would like all of it.
If people want to act like entitled kids I'm all for people laughing at them.
Dat harmless schandenfreude ..
That confused me. Isabelle is a fighter. Surely you could come up with a BotW Zelda moveset.
what about disappointment? Is that ok?
Sorry, wrong choice of words. My point still stands though. I wish the palette had darker skin.
I've never said it wasn't. Disappointment is natural. But the moment people use it to justify toxic anger, a line gets crossed.
Tetris 99 is wrong. It's even more wrong that "Tearing Through Heaven" is in there.
Isn't there supposed to be a surprise in the Master Hand battle? Maybe it's an unlockable song.
I was just asking. Didn't mean to accuse you of anything. I've just noticed that some people have been insisting everyone should be happy with it and expressing or stating disappointment in the character is bad.
Obviously you shouldn't be toxic but I also feel people slap the toxic label on anything negative which isn't always deserved.
People seem to keep making this assumption for some reason.
Once again, it was Nintendo that chose these characters, not Sakurai.
why did sakurai murder all the fire emblem charactersWell, at least this reveal gave enough fuel for inspiration for loads and loads of memes...
The whole point behind that string of post was saying "It's ok to be disappointed, but anger at a character reveal just because you don't approve isn't".
For example, until NOW I've been disappointed with every character reveal for the DLC. But I'm not trying to act like I know whats best for the game or that I know what series deserves what. "Someone likes it and I don't have to buy it if I don't find them interesting ... hope those who like them enjoy playing them".
Nintendo gave Sakurai a selection of characters, he picked the ones he thought would work best
they didn't force anything on him
Was this confirmed anywhere?
And regardless, Nintendo would still be the ones restricting Sakurai's say on the matter.