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OnanieBomb

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,481
Since Nintendo already has my money I'm gonna hit them where it really hurts: the broken heart "oh" on the Switch news feed.
 

LinkStrikesBack

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 27, 2017
16,364
I'm not sure how long it takes for Sakurai to develop Smash characters, but Three Houses did release around six months ago, so it's not unreasonable to assume that the decision was made after Three Houses blew up.

He admitted during the direct he got to play three houses before release so that he could work out how to develop byleth. So we know for a fact that he decided on it before the game came out.
 

Deleted member 22465

User requested account closure
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Oct 28, 2017
39
Sorry but Sothis or Edelgard/Dimitri/Claude with a Pokemon trainer setup would have been a thousand times better than Byleth.

Although Byleth is still better than the player-paid marketing promotion they pulled with joker...
 

D-Man

Member
Oct 25, 2017
378
Byleth wasn't my first choice but their multiple weapon thing is really cool. I liked Three Houses so I'm okay with this pick. Very solid first pass all-around in my book. All of the choices were from something I played so that was a personal treat.
 

Platy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
27,692
Brazil
people are legit depressed about the last character ITT lmao

Some of the most famous video game characters of their generation representing some big franchises that are important either to nintendo or gaming in general and then ....the 9th fire emblem character

sakurai literally hyped the fighter pass to end on a high note and blew it
 

Tochtli79

Member
Jun 27, 2019
5,777
Mexico City
I'm a huge Fire Emblem fan and Three Houses is my favourite game in the series in over 10 years and my GOTY.

Byleth is a terrible, boring choice and giving them the weapons of the OTHER characters to make them interesting is confounding.

The problem with FE in Smash isn't the amount of characters, it's the uninspired choices.

Adding Lucina as a Marth expy when Robin was already enough for Smash 4.

Adding Corrin, another sword fighter, instead of Azura, who uses a lance and water bending abilities.

Adding Chrom as another Marth expy (with Ike's recovery wow) when Lucina already did that and everyone had moved on from that game.

Now adding Byleth instead of, as the video itself points out, the highly plot important and unique Edelgard, who not only looks different from the blue haired sword fighters, but also would have been a heavyweight female fighter.

I'm sorry, but after Marth, Roy, and Ike all having swords, the priority should have been creating a diverse line-up of FE characters, not boring swordsmen the fanbase generally doesn't even like. Chrom isn't even among the most popular characters from his game, Corrin is universally disliked, and Byleth is much less popular than the house leaders.

...at least the stage looks great and the music selection does too.

It's such a shame because even as a huge FE fan I can't get excited for more FE content in Smash anymore. The wrong characters always get picked over more interesting options.
 

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One Winged Slayer
Banned
Nov 14, 2017
1,636
User banned (3 days): Trolling. Ignoring staff post
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"HOES MAD" Trending on Twitter lmao
 
Oct 25, 2017
4,774
I also feel bad for Rex fans. Sakurai says they couldn't add him in because his game was too late, well now, didn't stop you from adding in Byleth.
 

Pariah

Member
Oct 29, 2017
3,945
I like Fire Emblem, but for Nintendo standards, this is scraping down the barrel. Not a surprise, considering a big part of what's new in this Season Pass or the base game comes from third parties.
 

Bane

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
5,905
I'll take this any day over stuff like Dante or Doomguy. The moves look neat and I like Smash Characters to have a history with Nintendo. I'm digging a lot of the mii costumes too, Cuphead pretty much just looks like actual Cuphead.

Overall I'm happy with the fighter pack, especially since I got it for something like $17. Bring on the second.
 

cdm00

The Fallen
Dec 5, 2018
2,225
Sakurai really does what he wants lmao
Byleth looks good, excited to try him out
Cuphead costume is awesome, the Ubi stuff is sort of unexpected, guess Rayman is in FP2 then??
FP2 is crazy, 6 fighters this time, the hype train will never end will it
 

ClickyCal'

Member
Oct 25, 2017
59,687
As a fire emblem fan, not complaining. For those that are complaining about getting it as part of the pass, isn't that part of the gamble of buying a season pass before knowing what everything is in it?
It's going to make people weary of getting pass 2. I see way less pre sales coming.
 

Linde

Banned
Sep 2, 2018
3,983
I love 3H
but this is kinda boring

BUT the stage and music are both great so its alright. and the fact that there's still 6 characters left means it doesnt bother me
 
Oct 27, 2017
20,761
I get ppl's outrage I guess but if they're doing even more DLC fighters after this (aren't they?) then we will still get more characters.

Three Houses was my GOTY last year so this is good news for me. Can't wait to play as Byleth imo. Yes, I know it's another sword based fighter, idk I'm fine with it.
 

Glio

Member
Oct 27, 2017
24,518
Spain
Some of the most famous video game characters of their generation representing some big franchises that are important either to nintendo or gaming in general and then ....the 9th fire emblem character

sakurai literally hyped the fighter pass to end on a high note and blew it
How is Joker more important than Byleth
 

Poltergust

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,831
Orlando, FL
Blyeth looks very OP. I love the stage though.
He/She actually doesn't seem that good. Exploitable recovery, slow frame data, slow movement (being compared to Robin is not good), and apparently bad throws can be rather crippling to a character's viability.

Byleth has range and kill power, but so does Hero and he's barely mid-tier.
 

GustyGardner

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,443
Even loving FE and Three Houses, I'm not too excited by this. Real loss is the lack of any remixes outside of the boring vocal theme *yawn.* I literally felt more joy from that single "Includes Music Track" label for the Cuphead Mii Costume than a character from my GOTY...

Probably won't pick this up, at least not until the next fighter pack that interests me.
 

Le Dude

Member
May 16, 2018
4,709
USA
I'm hoping they do a third fighter pass leading into Feb 2023, then port Ultimate with all DLC to Switch 2 and continue from there. Unless the Switch 2 is launching 2022/Spring 2023, then they could just port after pass 2 and continue from there.
 

Kreed

The Negro Historian
Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,109
The character choice is fine/looks fun to play, but following up 4 guest characters with this probably wasn't "wise" if Nintendo wanted positive reactions to the reveal for the reasons we're seeing in this thread/on other social platforms. At least they announced 6 more character slots.
 

Nisaba

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,941
Canada
I wish Sakurai loved Zelda as much as he loves FE....

But I'm not too hung up about Byleth being chosen, we've already gotten so much in this game.
 

Jakenbakin

Member
Jun 17, 2018
11,811
My friend sent me a rumor like a month ago saying it would be Sora, and I told him it would just be another blue haired Fire Emblem character. Nailed it!
 

Twister

Member
Feb 11, 2019
5,080
So much salt here. Sakurai worked his ass off on this game and it literally is overflowing with content. People wouldn't be satisfied no matter who the character was. You got Banjo, give it a rest.