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Galkinator

Chicken Chaser
Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,962
Yeah banning electronics will surely make humanity suddenly reverse to the times of being more social and not phone dependent.

Those places just come off as pretentious and goofy tbh
 

Arkestry

Member
Oct 26, 2017
3,920
London
Lol, the amount of people in here calling Sam Smith's pretentious. They're basically the opposite. As down to earth as you can find.
 

Zellia

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
2,769
UK
Sounds weirdly draconian to me but, hey, their prerogative to implement these rules. Just like it's my prerogative to go somewhere else.
 

LL_Decitrig

User-Requested Ban
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
10,334
Sunderland
Incredibly pretentious and plain wrong. They really only want a certain group of people to come there.

Funny you should say that. I occasionally walk into a pub and discover very quickly that it's not for me. Very loud music is a big clue. I leave. It's not difficult.

To be clear, I use a phone all the time, usually on ResetERA or Twitter, so I'm probably not going to use one of these venues ever. That's okay, though.
 

PinkSpider

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,924
Lol, the amount of people in here calling Sam Smith's pretentious. They're basically the opposite. As down to earth as you can find.
Yeah; each venue will be different but the Angel Inn in Leeds was full of alternative types with cheap booze and down to Earth. The Hull Blue Bell is also friendly, full of old people as well as young and both have cheap drinks and are friendly.

Again, you'll be able to use your phone. I doubt they'd say anything and if so it'd probably be to a group of people ignoring each other on their phones. We swear fairly often in them (banned) and back many moons ago when I smoked illegal substances we did it in the beer garden with no eyes batted.
 
Oct 27, 2017
4,291
Nottingham, UK
Sam Smith's pubs are a fucking refuge, at least in London. No music, lots of seats, fairly inexpensive booze. You can go there and actually have a conversation with your buds instead of getting drowned out by shitty pop music, it's great.

Got no real problem with this, knowing the Sam Smith pubs I've been to, I'm pretty sure this rule is just so that if someone is being obnoxious with their device, they can get them to leave. Someone quietly reading a Kindle isn't going to have a problem.
Basically, all this hand wringing about technophobic old people is an overreaction to benign set of rules being used to try and foster a particular atmosphere and really doesn't warrant too much distress

I agree with you that having a pub or two that are a refuge from the norm is a boon rather than some sort of attack on people and their phones
 

menacer

Member
Dec 15, 2018
1,036
How about people in London and England and Ireland just go to traditional pubs. I mean, you people created them basically and should know better.
 
Oct 30, 2017
3,295
Blimey. I can tell a lot of people have never been to a Sam Smiths. They're not bars, they're old fashioned boozers. You go there for a social drink and a chat, because they're cheap and you can hear each other because they don't have ridiculous loud music that makes everyone shout.

If you want a bar, go to one, if you want a pub for a chat go to one. Each to their own.
 

LL_Decitrig

User-Requested Ban
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
10,334
Sunderland
"Play a part" in what? Increasing social conversation? I'm amazed a user of ResetERA would support such technophobic views. Bear in mind there was a rush at one point for pubs to provide wi-fi etc. to entice customers. The serious point is this is an anti-intellectual, anti-consumer, regressive stance. I personally don't think it will work, but we'll see.

I can see you're having difficulty recognizing the substantial gap between my personal views and the broad spectrum of views that a publican may express in formulating policy.

As for "technophobic", what would be your reaction to a fast food vendor that decided to close its existing drive-through windows in favour of concentrating on the restaurant side? Wouldn't that inconvenience a lot of potential customers? What about drivers' rights?

A business is declaring they are going to confront patrons for how they use their personal time in their business. This is a policy which restricts the personal freedoms of paying customers and customers should vote with their feet. Giving them verbal feedback isn't crying, it's a consumer right.

As long as you don't make a nuisance of yourself on their premises, I'm sure we'll all get out of this really bad, terrible situation without anybody suffering unduly.
 

Cocolina

Member
Oct 28, 2017
7,990
I think that was the joke Edgar Wright tried to make and that every Irish and British pub (and maybe you Scotland) is just generic.

The joke was that franchises took over some pubs and made them look the same, not that every one looks the same. It was to highlight how things had changed since they were drinking as kids.
 

julia crawford

Took the red AND the blue pills
Member
Oct 27, 2017
35,286
it's this board come to life. also a good reason to not go there

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This would be pretty cool. I sorta need to stay online most of the time but this is really a good idea, and could work very well with other activities to make it more welcoming to people who just want to talk with others/strangers.

Banning phones and other things helps no one... it gives no incentive, just an option that most will take anyway.
 

LL_Decitrig

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Banned
Oct 27, 2017
10,334
Sunderland
Yes. Find a seat, order food, open laptop, do some work or procrastinate whilst nursing a pint.

Sorry for destroying the fucking atmosphere of alcohol-dependency, binge-drinking and general toxicity residing in Britain's public houses.

That's just fine. In 1990 I may well have been among the first in the UK to plonk my laptop (at 7Kg so heavy I used to carry it in a rucksack) on the table right next to my pint. I avoid doing that nowadays because I think it's been established empirically that beer and laptops don't play well together on a table. Even before portable computers I was the sort of nightmarish customer who would sit in the corner writing ideas down in a notebook for hours on end.

It's probably just as well that not every customer is like me. The pub would essentially be like a morgue that served alcohol.
 

NekoNeko

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
18,447
funny how people are offended by this. it's their rules, don't go there if you don't want to abide by them.
 

Rosebud

Two Pieces
Member
Apr 16, 2018
43,597
Lol, I would never go to that place. The owners probably say things like "millenials are ruining everything"

When they will ban smoke?
 

Jill Sandwich

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,949
Blimey. I can tell a lot of people have never been to a Sam Smiths. They're not bars, they're old fashioned boozers. You go there for a social drink and a chat, because they're cheap and you can hear each other because they don't have ridiculous loud music that makes everyone shout.

If you want a bar, go to one, if you want a pub for a chat go to one. Each to their own.

The landlord in the one near me shook his head in contempt when I asked to pay contactless, despite having the facility to do so. They are rather a 70s throwback pub, the kind that have been closing down for years. Good luck to them. They do make terrific beers though and I'd rather put my phone away and enjoy an honest pint in there than a Wetherspoons.
 

Fushichou187

Member
Nov 1, 2017
3,313
Sonoma County, California.
Don't think a chain business can stand up to the public scrutiny or oversight at individual locations that a policy like this would entail. I will say though that I have been to a number of small mom and pop restaurants, dive bars, and cafés that ban cell phones, laptops, and taking photos, and while some people will act shitty about it, by and large it's always a pleasant environment. Usually really friendly and the staff at these places are always more engaged with the customers.
 

Huey

Member
Oct 27, 2017
13,201
a nice idea in principle but... even as someone who was an adult prior to mobile phones... what the fuck

No calls is probably fair, but if I want to pull up a wikipedia article when I'm discussing something with someone, I shouldn't have to leave my table
 

astro

Member
Oct 25, 2017
56,969
So a company want to cultivate a certain atmosphere? There are other plaes you can go to drink if you don't like that.

Some of the responses ITT are really funny. Like you feel this is some kind of attack on your liberty.

Just don't drink there.
 

TFGB

Member
Dec 23, 2018
544
Ironic that these days the younger generation are always moaning about how the older generation are always moaning, yet it's those youngsters that are the ones getting offended by each and every article they read in the news.

We were visiting pubs and socialising without mobile phones as a social crutch long before you were even born. Find something else to whinge about.
 

LL_Decitrig

User-Requested Ban
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
10,334
Sunderland
a nice idea in principle but... even as someone who was an adult prior to mobile phones... what the fuck

No calls is probably fair, but if I want to pull up a wikipedia article when I'm discussing something with someone, I shouldn't have to leave my table

The wording is ambiguous, but the memo does seem to be about streaming music and video that might affect the enjoyment of other customers. I suspect you'd still be able to quietly pull up the Wikipedia article on Noise or the Oxford dictionary page on Din without incurring the wrath of the management. But I could be wrong.
 
Nov 14, 2017
4,928
Sam Smith pubs are the best. Far better than spoons. Some people don't like them because they are like stereotypical old man pubs, but that's why they're so great.
 
Nov 18, 2017
2,932
Ironic that these days the younger generation are always moaning about how the older generation are always moaning, yet it's those youngsters that are the ones getting offended by each and every article they read in the news.

We were visiting pubs and socialising without mobile phones as a social crutch long before you were even born. Find something else to whinge about.

Folks, we've found ResetERA's oldest member. These damn youngsters and their phones, eh? Brexit means Brexit! etc.
 

Penny Royal

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
4,158
QLD, Australia
Folks, we've found ResetERA's oldest member. These damn youngsters and their phones, eh? Brexit means Brexit! etc.

I'm of the same vintage and opinion on the thread topic, am a remainer and have detested loud music & people gabbing loudly on mobiles in pubs since I was in my 20s in the 90s, so drop your outrage and drink somewhere that allows you to be an annoying prick.
 

Cocolina

Member
Oct 28, 2017
7,990
I have absolutely no idea what you're on about. I haven't read a newspaper, let alone the Daily Fail, in at least a decade. But hey...nice one!

What about Judith reading her copy of Lesley Pearse's latest book? Surely it's disgusting behaviour doing that in a pub when she should be socialising?
 
Nov 18, 2017
2,932
I'm of the same vintage and opinion on the thread topic, am a remainer and have detested loud music & people gabbing loudly on mobiles in pubs since I was in my 20s in the 90s, so drop your outrage and drink somewhere that allows you to be an annoying prick.

So your issue isn't with phones is it? It's with people gabbing loudly, which they can do whether it's on the phone or with the inebriated person next to them. Someone quietly using their phone isn't impacting on you in the slightest.
 

Cocolina

Member
Oct 28, 2017
7,990
I never said otherwise.

If you can find somewhere that I did, then please...knock yourself out.

Just where you said "We were visiting pubs and socialising without mobile phones as a social crutch long before you were born" and assumed you thought mobile phones were anti-thetical to socialising