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WaPo has reported that a British family on vacation in Canada mistakenly crossed over into the U.S. where ICE arrested and detained this family for days in a PA facility decried as a "baby jail":


The Connors family didn't plan to be on the unmarked road.

Originally from the United Kingdom, the two couples and their three young children were driving near the U.S.-Canada border on Oct. 3 during a visit to Vancouver when an animal ventured into the road, forcing them to make an unexpected detour. But before the family could get very far, flashing lights from a police car appeared in their rearview mirror. The officer that pulled them over was American — they had accidentally crossed the border.

The vacationing family says this was the moment their trip turned into "the scariest experience of our lives," according to a complaint filed Friday to the inspector general of the Department of Homeland Security. Instead of being allowed to return to Canada or the U.K., Eileen Connors alleges that her entire family, including her 3-month-old son, ended up detained at the Berks Family Residential Center in Leesport, Pa., where they have spent more than a week living in "frigid" and "filthy" conditions. As of late Monday, Bridget Cambria, the Connorses' lawyer, told The Washington Post that the British family was still at the center waiting to be deported.

"We will never forget, we will be traumatized for the rest of our lives by what the United States government has done to us," Connors wrote in a sworn statement, later adding, "We have been treated like criminals here, stripped of our rights, and lied to. … It is undoubtedly the worst experience we have ever lived through."

Officials with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement confirmed in a statement to The Post on Tuesday that the family is being held at the Leesport facility but disputed their claims of mistreatment. The center, the statement said, "provides a safe and humane environment for families as they go through the immigration process."
"Reports of abuse or inhumane conditions at BFRC are unequivocally false," officials said.

Connors, however, alleges that the mistreatment began shortly after her family was stopped by the American officer.

Even before the tourists could explain why they were on the road, Connors, 24, wrote that her 30-year-old husband David and his cousin, who was driving at the time, were arrested.

"You crossed an international border," said the officer, who allegedly did not read the men their rights and ignored the family's pleas that they had unknowingly crossed into the United States and never intended to enter the country during their trip, despite having the proper visas. The complaint did not specify exactly where the incident took place.

The family asked if they could "simply turn around" and were denied, Connors wrote.

Connors and her baby were separated from her husband and placed in "a very cold cell" at an undisclosed Border Patrol station in Washington state, the statement said. Cambria, a lawyer with Aldea - The People's Justice Center in Pennsylvania, told The Post that the frigid detention cells have a nickname: "Hieleras," or "iceboxes."

When the Connorses got off their flight, they were in Pennsylvania. Their destination was the Berks Family Residential Center, a facility advocates have decried as "baby jail," according to the Philadelphia Inquirer.
 

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was the accent not a giveaway?

here's me thinking my fancy voice would do enough to distract american police from my skin colour in case i ever got into trouble whilst on holiday there.
 

Weebos

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They took them all the way to PA? Or did they somehow "accidentally" make it all the way there?

EDIT: Actually it's totally close enough, ignore my lack of geographical skill. I was thinking Philly.
 

Geoff

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Fucking hell.

If they're willing to do that to white people on holiday god help brown people trying to migrate.

Weird, crazy and disgusting.

How can you enforce a border like that when there isn't a border marker?
 

Illusion

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Something something Abolish ICE. Something something, corrupt prideful Unamerican pieces of shit. Something something.
 

C.Mongler

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So instead of telling them "Hey, you crossed the border, you need to head back that way", an agreeable and effectively free solution, they moved the family thousands of miles and have detained them for over two weeks at the cost of thousands of dollars to US tax payers?

These ghouls really spare no fucking expense to be as inhumanly cruel as possible I guess.
 

lunarworks

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Sane border policy: Escort them back to the border and bar them from entry for 12 months.
Insane border policy: Immediately arrest them without question, split the family apart, fly them across the continent to a jail in another state.

It's like North Korea.
 

Geoff

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Sane border policy: Escort them back to the border and bar them from entry for 12 months.
Insane border policy: Immediately arrest them without question, split the family apart, fly them across the continent to a jail in another state.

It's like North Korea.

Why even bar them from entry?

Surely 'sane' is just "Hi, did you realise you just crossed into the US?" then maybe a little investigation and a cheery goodbye. There is no need for any kind of sanction.
 
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Sane border policy: Escort them back to the border and bar them from entry for 12 months.
Insane border policy: Immediately arrest them without question, split the family apart, fly them across the continent to a jail in another state.

It's like North Korea.

I think barring entry a family for mistakenly crossing the U.S./Canada border for 12 months isn't fair at all. WaPo reports this family was on an unmarked road that started in Canada and crossed into the U.S. and they were on this road and didn't know they crossed over until a U.S cop pulled them over and instead of asking where they wanted to go to and hearing from this family they were on vacation in Canada, the cop should've told them they crossed over to the U.S. and maybe escort them back to the U.S/Canada border and they cross back into Canada rather than calling for ICE to come and arrest and detain this family over a mistake.
 

tsampikos

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British family got the latino experience for a week, eh?

As a lifer... it fucking sucks. Always waiting to see what laws change or what raid I'll get caught up in. Great feeling living in this country.
 

Dalek

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Why do all these people from shithole countries keep trying to enter the US?

/s
 

lunarworks

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I know! God forbid someone cross the Canadian-US border. All those Canadians coming down to the US to mooch off the decent welfare and free healthcare...

Oh wait...
12 months is pretty damn lenient compared to current US border crossing policy:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/increase-bans-canada-us-border-1.5300708

Canadians are getting barred from entry for five years simply because a border guard doesn't like their story.
 
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They took them all the way to PA? Or did they somehow "accidentally" make it all the way there?

EDIT: Actually it's totally close enough, ignore my lack of geographical skill. I was thinking Philly.
It's still really far. They were near Vancouver and the border control had them fly from Seattle- Tacoma to the "family residential center" in PA. 4-5 hours flight minimum.
 

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The conners:

Hmm pic is showing in preview but not when posted

maybe this story will get some media traction
 

mattiewheels

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I don't understand how there's a border road that has no checkpoint. And agents just sit there waiting to entrap people?
 

Figgles

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Their story was dubious at best. Since they're not Canadian, they probably aren't allowed to just drop them back off in Canada.
 
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