We're at a point where I can't be happy about any news because I know things will just keep getting worse.
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Brexit: Theresa May set to reveal No 10 departure date on Friday
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We're at a point where I can't be happy about any news because I know things will just keep getting worse.
I'd rather a general election than her leaving in all honesty.
At least that gives the opportunity of someone who isn't awful getting in/a reshuffle of parliament.
Who would be the least worse option at this stage?
At least that gives the opportunity of someone who isn't awful getting in/a reshuffle of parliament.
Who would be the least worse option at this stage?
Not sure there is a least worse. Boris, or another brexiteer type, will certainly alienate pro-european Tory MPs. Boris less so since he's perhaps the only one with clout to get those MPs to sit down and shut up, but I'm certain change UK might see a couple new members.
But if it's someone more in Theresa's mould, I can't see how they can manage with the fanaticism of the ERG on their doorstep.
Does a new leader actually solve any problems? Asides from the fish-brained electorate falling for 'shiny new thing' syndrome. Bet we'll be hearing austerity is over again that's for sure.
Well, at least the GE wheels will now spin that much faster. Any chance of it not happening died with May. The Tory agenda is dead on the rocks so they need to have a GE before long so the fucked agenda can start up again. Remember they have NO working majority in parliament. They can have TWO new leaders, the maths don't change.
Oh and not too worried about no deal, sure the fuckers will but on thier political brave face but as soon as they have a cavalcade of advisers and civil servants breifing that a no deal will kill the union dead and introduce direct rule in NI, watch the then PM shit their pants and go for a GE. NO one, absolutely no one wants to be the leader that starts another civil war between NI and Ireland. Without a workable plan no deal is no good at all. A no deal will destroy the Tories for a generation, a bit like how lab has been out of gov for almost a decade now.
My bet is on Boris or Raab.
Boris is a buffoon, a sly, cunning one, but a buffoon. He'll have a snake pit of advisers saying sweet nothings to him just to balloon his ego whilst cashing in and leaving him to fight a fucked GE campaign.
Raab is just a un charismatic psycho, that can't hack it.
Oh and not too worried about no deal, sure the fuckers will but on thier political brave face but as soon as they have a cavalcade of advisers and civil servants breifing that a no deal will kill the union dead and introduce direct rule in NI, watch the then PM shit their pants and go for a GE. NO one, absolutely no one wants to be the leader that starts another civil war between NI and Ireland. Without a workable plan no deal is no good at all. A no deal will destroy the Tories for a generation, a bit like how lab has been out of gov for almost a decade now.
My bet is on Boris or Raab.
Boris is a buffoon, a sly, cunning one, but a buffoon. He'll have a snake pit of advisers saying sweet nothings to him just to balloon his ego whilst cashing in and leaving him to fight a fucked GE campaign.
Raab is just a un charismatic psycho, that can't hack it.
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Man. People went from thinking that May would be the next margaret thacther to thinking that she's one of the worst PM's in UK's political history. I was not shocked when she formed a minority government after the 2017 election.
So her legacy is basically 2 years of Brexit failure shenanigans and memes.
So her legacy is basically memes.
So her legacy is basically memes.
She's going to go down as perhaps the worst prime minister. Theresa's done nothing but fail at the one objective she tried to pursue, whereas at least all of the others had some achievements to their name despite some major fuckups.
There will have to be a GE in the very near future after she leaves, Boris will push for a no deal Brexit and that was not what he campaigned for in either the Leave campaign or the last GE. There is no mandate for it.
She was a disaster, obviously. Though she wasn't the one that triggered these events and it's unlikely her successor will be any better.
The point is that the Tory party membership hate May's Brexit policy and Boris offers one that will satisfy them and unify the party. From day one the concept of Brexit has been about party unity for the Tories. A Boris-led No Deal policy will nip any challenge from the Brexit Party in the bud. Tories only think about the party, not the country.
Of course it will also virtually guarantee a general election which is a massive risk for them as they may once again fail to achieve a majority capable of implementing Brexit, or may even lose power altogether.
No. Don't go. Come ba-... ah well, bye Felicia.
In all seriousness, there is no good alternative other than a General Election at this point. All the dipshits lining up to take her place are beyond dangerous. We're fucked. Fuck the Tories.
In all seriousness, there is no good alternative other than a General Election at this point. All the dipshits lining up to take her place are beyond dangerous. We're fucked. Fuck the Tories.
To think, we would be 4 hellish years into Ed Miliband's coalition of chaos right now. Thankfully England voted for a strong and stable government.
She'll announce her leaving date but it'll be so many months away that it'll be bordering on hysterical.
And a decent sized portion will be dead in the next 5-10 years.
I still fully believe if it's BoJo then he will do a more extreme version of May's running the clock down, this time explicitly so we get a No Deal "by accident" in October. We're pissing Europe off now, especially France, and all it will take is for him to announce some kind of attempt to renegotiate a new deal, play for time and then No Deal is still the default, in spite of parliament voting against a No Deal, it is still the default and it's the aim of many on the right to see that happen. They will pin the blame on France, what a fall guy for them to stir up their base..
It's gonna be grim, but the silver lining will be Scotland holding a referendum and fucking off away from this shambles. We have a mandate to hold one until 2021, good luck on anyone trying to genuinely block it.
You're way too optimistic. The majority here loves moaning about the shit caused by not being independent but is also incredibly against independence.
If its a hard brexit then its Wales and England left in the Union within a decade. I can't see it holding together under a brexit recession with tensions as high as they are now.
Privatise aspects and sell those lucrative contracts to one of their race to the bottom focussed friends. Fun fun fun!
The US wants access to the NHS in any trade deal and Tories like privatisation. Look at US Healthcare, NHS is already gutted by privatisation wasting money. Politicians will be happy to sell out for a back hander from US interests.
It won't happen (although how many times have we all said that in recent years) but imagine if Chris Grayling became PM.
Blimey.
Blimey.
Jesus christ I haven't been following it all that closely recently but is Boris fucking Johnson really the most likely to take over after she resigns?!
Surely SURELY!!!!!!!!!!!! they have someone else :/
I lived in London under his reign and he is such an embarrassment.... As someone who can't stand May I'd MUCH rather she remaining in power if it meant he didn't get in.
Surely SURELY!!!!!!!!!!!! they have someone else :/
I lived in London under his reign and he is such an embarrassment.... As someone who can't stand May I'd MUCH rather she remaining in power if it meant he didn't get in.
Well that sounds great. But if NHS is already gutted what difference would it make if the US enters the arena?
He'd attempt brexit but somehow end up with us staying and signing up to the 'EU army'.
2nd worst PM in my time after war criminal Blair.
But the shit that is to come after her is going to be terrible too. Especially if it's Boris or Rees-Mog.
But the shit that is to come after her is going to be terrible too. Especially if it's Boris or Rees-Mog.
Is there going to be a general election or is it just going to be a Tory election?
Not well versed in UK political system.
Not well versed in UK political system.
And the fact she did way worse than expected in an election were the polls were showing weels before election day that the UK conservatives would crush labour by like 10+ percent.
It's not going to be Rees-Mogg, the pubic are happy to vote for a bog standard Etonian toff but not an absurd Edwardian caricature.
It's amusing because for all of their whining about "unelected bureaucrats" they're more than happy to place a prime minister in charge who wasn't voted for by the electorate.
Depends on whether Boris feels good about giving up his dogwhistling columns in tabloids each week or so. I don't think you're able to be a columnist as PM. Maybe when in that role you'll, idk, do the work?
It depresses me how many Brexiteers see that twat as a champion of the working classes lately, so I wouldn't rule him out unfortunately.
Cameron was worse, he actually enacted the terrible austerity that caused this and set the referendum up.
I'm sure may could be even worse if she was competent enough to enact Tory policy though.
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