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BREXIT |OT| ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
BREXIT |OT2.0| A parade of endless victories for Boris Johnson
BREXIT |OT3| I'd Rather Be Inert in a Ditch
That sounds much less like Brexit is on pause, and much more like "Brexit Deal" Is on pause. It sounds much more like No-deal Brexit is full steam ahead.
Edit: Title has since been updated.
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Yeah, was going to say - Brexit is still on track, just with a No Deal crash out at the end of the year. Update the title?
Edit: Ah, just updated.
at this point no deal is what everybody seems to crave for.
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Seems like boris will have to decide what he wants over the weekend. EU is due to enact no deal contingencies next week
I can't wait how many new customs experts, on newly made customs positions (yay, jobs), I will get to meet from the freight forwarders and haulers sides.
Just fucking do no Brexit and fuck all shit up.
Just fucking do no Brexit and fuck all shit up.
This isn't encouraging for anyone, but it's probably best to wait until tomorrow to see how that plays out. There's been a growing feeling among European political journalists for a while now that the UK side (particularly Johnson) would need some kind of last-minute performative intervention to allow Johnson to look tough, then look like he's single-handedly rescued a deal. I'm far from convinced that's what will happen tomorrow, but it is at least possible.
Of course. We have reached the stage where it is becoming much more unlikely that all parliaments manage to ratify this. I mean, it is 26 countries + 3 parliaments in Belgium that have to ratify the deal before the 31st.
I agree, but the question is whether he does it now or after we crash out.
I see him taking no deal, being seen as a conservative hero and then bailing shortly afterwards. someone else can clear up the enormous pile of Boris poo.
Any deal can potentially be applied provisionally from the 31st without formal ratification, based on agreement from the Council, with approval of the European Parliament to follow later (with other national and regional parliaments also ratifying later, if the agreement is determined to be a mixed agreement). This would buy a little time - not much, because approval would still be a legal necessity, but enough to heavily mitigate any worry about time for ratification.
The deal on offer is barely better than No Deal and we aren't prepared at all. France have already done test runs in their new customs structures while the UK has just built some lorry parks. The majority of the population is in for a nasty surprise on January 1st when all the new changes kick in.
Yes, what took a few hours at Dover (trucks driving off the ferry) will now take days.
The UK has customs infrastructure is designed to handle 50% of the goods flowing into the UK. The other 50% just flowed through, due to the free movement of goods as part of EU membership.
Even with the removal of tariffs, which is the aim of this deal, the administrative nightmare facing the UK on 1 January will cause untold turmoil.
Well that's sad, even if expected. I think this is going to enter history as one of the biggest shots in the foot ever, not even Trump as president got to this level of complete madness. Guess Labor really fucked up with Corbyn huh?
Johnson's "oven-ready" deal was the withdrawal agreement. He simplified that into an election slogan to appeal to people who just wanted Brexit done, while neglecting to mention that there was an entirely separate set of negotiations needed to determine the future relationship (that's the process that may be nearing an end now).
Yea I know, that's why I said that his concept of over-ready was ridiculous at best and disingenuous at worse. Plus he already shitted all over the deal with the internal markets bill anyway, so more like a oven-ready pile of steaming shit lol
The Government aren't even following this in real-time so we have no hope.
I will shout out Phil's youtube channel, started watching his political break downs since 2018 and he always kept a great level of discourse against the usual Tory bullshit.
The electorate has fucked up at every stage, starting with not electing Ed Miliband.
The fact that the end of this shitty, shitty year is just the beginning of the next nightmare is... something. I don't know if I will ever be able to forgive the people who voted for this.
i believe not even the UK cares if the UK is ready or not. they want a hard brexit full stop.
The UK should just be honest, we want a free trade deal the same as before but not following any rules or regulations and we also want to be a tax haven, if not no deal is cool because we have bet against the UK doing well and going to make a fortune with disaster capitalism as well as selling assets and bleeding tax payers dry paying ourselves. Why are the EU being so mean!
I think this is something that must be studied because it's just a series of bad decisions, running way before the incredibly stupid Cameron's brexit referendum (non-binding btw! which is just another incredible thing about this whole thing).
In a way this is the political equivalent of Chernobyl.
Trading rules fall back to WTO terms, tariffs get applied to goods crossing the border, UK driving licenses are no longer valid in the EU, data protection laws get more complicated if you're sending data from the EU to UK, air transport between the UK and EU gets disrupted (worst case you can't fly there anymore), the Eurotunnel becomes an area of legal uncertainty, UK police lose many of the tools they rely on for tackling crime, and ultimately UK GDP decreases by 8% over the next decade (or rather, we don't grow by 8%)
All this is ignoring the political impact. If it's 'lets agree to disagree and come back in January', then maybe relations can improve. If, however, the Government starts seriously pushing through legislation that breaks the Withdrawal Agreement and acts upon that, then we're in for a world of hurt.
How that scene actually ends is probably going to be accurate, too.Watching Brexit be like:
Lol
"we're almost there", "an agreement is in sight", "we're on the brink of"
And then, "significant divergences"
Business as usual
"we're almost there", "an agreement is in sight", "we're on the brink of"
And then, "significant divergences"
Business as usual
We can't because some plonkers gave them a huge majority which barring some cosmic weirdness will let them do mostly what they want until 2024.