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Breath of The Wild Released Four Years Ago. Has any other game had a shot at claiming the title "Best of All Time" since then?
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It's often like that, 'reply' encourages contrasting opinions, compared to the polls.
Shure, it just seems that the gap is wider then i expected.
I mean every game mentioned in the pol has a valid shot at it.
While i voted for Zelda and Hollow knight im suprized that hollow knight is so close to RDR
I love RDR 2 but I feel you have to package that with the first game, then it's like 11/10.
I think Death Stranding will be more of a cult classic, rather than having a shot of going down with the larger audience, as the best game of all time.
OP makes a thread about how great Zelda is without even mentioning the other games in his text. Only listing one Nintendo franchise further increased the gap. Not the best setup for a poll.
Few like the weapon durability, lack of dungeons and the sense of boredom after the opening hours. There seems to be little objectivity in the argument for it being the greatest game.
Like what you want to like but to put a derivative and undercooked Zelda game on top of a list that includes Outer Wilds, God of War, Mario odyssey, last of us 2 let alone all games in history is completely farcical.
Like what you want to like but to put a derivative and undercooked Zelda game on top of a list that includes Outer Wilds, God of War, Mario odyssey, last of us 2 let alone all games in history is completely farcical.
Hm...makes sense, but if you cont packages then there are a lot of games that could argue that way...
Oh, obviouly, how could i miss that point. Its a preselected biased sample size by making the thread unatractive to fans of those other series.
Then its clear why ^^"
Which also filters for nintendo gamers, and HK was the biggest on switch, which would also explain why its here and so high.
Breath of the Wild still to this day four years later is the most innovative open world and freshest game from a gameplay perspective I have experienced. It has aged like a fine wine in my opinion.
That's not what the user you're quoting said. They're responding to OP's question.
- is there other games that have had a shot blablabla?
- yes, GoW, TLOU2, RDR2 (+ unnecessary nintendo jab)
Not seeing any hierarchy in this post.
OT - I don't care about rankings, but I guess BOTW and TLOU2 are the two most incredible achievements I've played the past five years. RDR2 has more obvious, grating flaws but is artistically monumental as well.
I'd add What Remains of Edith Finch to the list, but it's a bit less bombastically impressive than the others.
Not like it justifies it, but I remember seeing Mario 64 DS at retail keeping the 40$ price until not that long ago.
Playing Battle Royal FPS games with friends has mostly replaced all other gaming for me in the last few years, so it's hard to objectively measure these things any more. Sad as this sounds, COD Warzone is probably my favourite game of all time at this point. But yeah, for single player experiences, Breath of the Wild is up there, masterpiece.
Shit, you made me change my vote to include an Other for Outer Wilds.
It is that good
It should absolutely be included and absolutely deserves a shot at the spot. Incredible game. I say that as a 90% singleplayer person.
Well I think overall consensus will be BoTW. Despite the hate or love it gets it's just more of what most people think and it usually wins every game of the decade list every single time and is even winning this poll here right now easily (as of when I wrote this lol). It doesn't mean these other games aren't awesome because they are, it's just more that in terms of mindshare of what people think is the best game in years, BoTW comes out on top almost every time. I think it would take something like a new GTA, or something totally new because stuff like God of War, while good, was a huge departure from what it once was so it will no longer be as ground breaking or surprising. They will have to iterate on whats good again and its first venture out didn't take anything away from BotW so it's unlikely the second one will either unless it's that much better. Even BotW 2 is going to struggle vs itself unless they really shake it up. I think a totally new game or a big shift on an existing game would be what I think would take the helm away.
Fromsoft games are too hard for a lot of people so they tend to rank as high universally even though Sekiro was my personal GoTY when it was out. Cyberpunk was kind of the game that was supposed to shut down everything, but it turned out to be a buggy shitshow that was easily forgotten by anyone who didn't have a PC. Remakes have it rough like RE2, FF7R, and Demons Souls even if they are awesome just because they aren't technically completely new. Last of Us II was also awesome, but by many not even considered better than the first one and has a lower meta as well then the first. Maybe this current gen of new consoles will finally produce some amazing things with the new tech, but that's what I think it will take or just a really great game that nails all the things its set out to do.
This is mostly about mindshare and what people think and will say years from now so I don't think it'll change unless its that impactful but it definitely can. Nothing so far, even when they are awesome games, has made people rank BotW any less or have lose any steam. It even sells better than alot of new games and for full price still even though its 4 years old and single player too. Whatever it is though I'll give it a try if it shows up and looks fun!
Fromsoft games are too hard for a lot of people so they tend to rank as high universally even though Sekiro was my personal GoTY when it was out. Cyberpunk was kind of the game that was supposed to shut down everything, but it turned out to be a buggy shitshow that was easily forgotten by anyone who didn't have a PC. Remakes have it rough like RE2, FF7R, and Demons Souls even if they are awesome just because they aren't technically completely new. Last of Us II was also awesome, but by many not even considered better than the first one and has a lower meta as well then the first. Maybe this current gen of new consoles will finally produce some amazing things with the new tech, but that's what I think it will take or just a really great game that nails all the things its set out to do.
This is mostly about mindshare and what people think and will say years from now so I don't think it'll change unless its that impactful but it definitely can. Nothing so far, even when they are awesome games, has made people rank BotW any less or have lose any steam. It even sells better than alot of new games and for full price still even though its 4 years old and single player too. Whatever it is though I'll give it a try if it shows up and looks fun!
Why does it need to be 'justified' though.
Anyways, for me personally the games that I would rank as top dogs are Bloodborne, Monster Hunter World, and Final Fantasy XIV.
No other game quite reaches the magic and sense of wonder that BotW had. It's very telling that 4 years later other developers are just now starting to emulate the formula successfully. I really hope Nintendo shakes things up with the sequel.
I would say from this generation, the most standout and that could possibly be goty would be Disco Elysium. BOTW has a big flaw in the story department and bosses, but the rest is top tier. While TLOU2 has the most awards, its just an okay game, with gameplay straight out of a ps2 game. It has an insane production level, and best animation in the whole industry and while that is in itself a feat, it was built in an idea of a movie with gameplay tacked on between parts. Games should be built with interactivity in mind, give the player freedom to express themselves. Disco Elysium has that with an amazing story and a rarely seen approach to rpg gameplay.
BotW isn't even the best Zelda game.
Majora's Mask is the GOAT. It's better than every Sony and Microsoft game ever released.
EDIT: As for games released since BotW. It's Hades.
Majora's Mask is the GOAT. It's better than every Sony and Microsoft game ever released.
EDIT: As for games released since BotW. It's Hades.
I agree with both things you said.
BOTW and Hollow Knight are a step beyond of all those games, maybe, except RDR II
God of War, TLOU, besides a compelling story and production levels (that most publishers would only dream of) are not moving the industry forward.
Another vote for Outer Wilds. So much more than the sum of its parts, one of the few games that give you an experience that can't be replicated by any other medium.
As do I, hopefully they have more for those of us who fell in the love with the series for the formula introduced with LTTP. I couldn't care less about TLOZ, so "returning to it's roots" did little for me, and largely felt like a step back.
It makes me sad that it's my favorite series of all time, but there isn't really anything out there to replace it if BOTW is the formula going forward. We're already seeing games heavily influenced by BOTW, but weirdly enough Nintendo was really the only one doing what LTTP, OOT, MM, WW, TP, etc... did (at least reliably).
Good for it!
BOTW has a 70 in my brain. Just saying.
I don't see there being much "objectivity" in saying that it's not the greatest game either. Evaluating a game as being the "greatest" is obviously going to be a subjective matter. Which is probably why this "derivative and undercooked Zelda game" is currently topping the poll above the kinds of games you listed.
For me, yeah, it's easily my favorite game since its release and at minimum in my top 3 of all time. Not everyone's going to think it's a top 3 game (heck, not everyone's going to agree it's a good game), but to try to bring objectivity into an inherently subjective matter is... an odd choice, at the very least.
RDR2 is so clearly above anything else in this industry.
R* are still the best in the business by a mile.
R* are still the best in the business by a mile.
The last of us 2 is the most awarded game of all time. Just saying.
Weapon Degradation
Lack Of Dungeons
Lack of Story
Barren World
Lack of exploration rewards.
This game doesn't even come close to my top 100 and is easily one of my most disliked Zelda games, doesn't come close to OoT or LttP.
Lack Of Dungeons
Lack of Story
Barren World
Lack of exploration rewards.
This game doesn't even come close to my top 100 and is easily one of my most disliked Zelda games, doesn't come close to OoT or LttP.
I remember that during the BOTW review/launch week, the "best game of all time" conversation was really prominent on reviews/news/forums..., which I don't remember for any of the other listed games. Maybe RDR II got some too, but not on the same level (and the criticisms about the poor/rigid gunplay or movement were everywhere from the start, which I think makes sense).
I still think that BotW is the best game from al time, but Disco Elysium is so unique, well-written and immersive that it deserves any praise it has received and some more.
As a metroidvania lover, i tried so hard to like Hallow Knight but i just can't. Pains me to see it on the list. One of the few games i'd call overrated along TLOU1.
BOTW is defintely not derivative. I hope they can find a balance with the old and new zelda, proper dungeons and deeper more, linear storytelling.
I'm sorry to hear your experience was so bad. My favorite is Alttp and i loved Botw. I still llay it to this day. Wish i could erase my memory so that i can experience it for the first time again.
