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Breaking: Trump is abandoning attempt to put citizenship question into census
- Thread starter RPGamer92
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I'm...surprised
He tends to be quite stubborn with things
If only he'd abandon being president as well
He tends to be quite stubborn with things
If only he'd abandon being president as well
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I feel like that's code for "I've given up on it but can't admit it".
I almost wish this was kept silent until it was too late because Trump might get upset that everyone is making fun of him again and change his mind for the X time lol.
Will the data they gather from the Federal agencies be used in the same way as the door to door collections? Seems like if they give the fed's data more weight, it could be almost more impactful than the door to door data.
And he is free to do so. The data he is asking for already exists and he already has access to it.
This is like signing an executive order to make cucumbers legal.
There's a reason why so much energy was expended to desperately make this happen now. The GOP isn't going to have another opportunity like this until 2030.
Fortunately for us the Congressional Dems weren't responsible for keeping him in line on this one.
Trump cannot and will not admit fault or error, so this is par for the course.
I know but what can the Supreme Court do anyway besides say it is legal or illegal???
Is Trump going to go down to the Census and print the forms himself? Even if he did printing the forms with an illegal question on it would threaten to invalidate the entire process and even the GOP doesn't want that.
Hopefully the Supreme Court has a more favorable makeup by then, but I doubt it.
unrelated to the census
This was never about the data itself. Nobody was arguing that the government has zero interest in knowing how many non-citizens are in the country. The objection is that it is a loaded question that would discourage people from completing the census because they don't trust the administration to not misappropriate the surveys
He ordered that agencies that already supply him with data supply him with that same data.
It's literally nothing in order to try and save face after losing this census fight.
Why is this nothing when the census is a big deal? Because messing with the census is gerrymandering. It's all about scaring brown people away from filling out the census in order to mess with the numbers, which has repercussions on budgets and congressional seats.
Sadie Gurman @sgurman
"Congratulations again, Mr. President," Barr says in the Rose Garden, after acknowledging the administration ran out of options to put the citizenship question on the 2020 form. https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1149437032093167616 …
5:59 PM - Jul 11, 2019
Jim Acosta @Acosta
Trump world recognizing big defeat on citizenship question. One WH adviser: "Reminds me of the bad news bears." WH official said: "He does not like to concede anything." Same official said of decision to back off: "People were confused which direction it was going to go"
8:45 PM - Jul 11, 2019
"Congratulations again, Mr. President," Barr says in the Rose Garden, after acknowledging the administration ran out of options to put the citizenship question on the 2020 form. https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1149437032093167616 …
5:59 PM - Jul 11, 2019
Jim Acosta @Acosta
Trump world recognizing big defeat on citizenship question. One WH adviser: "Reminds me of the bad news bears." WH official said: "He does not like to concede anything." Same official said of decision to back off: "People were confused which direction it was going to go"
8:45 PM - Jul 11, 2019
In case you missed it, earlier in the week, Barr abruptly swapped out lawyers (later revealed they resigned) and the judge asked the DOJ to explain the change.
Hansi Lo Wang @hansilowang
I talked to former Justice Dept lawyers about the major shakeup in #CitizenshipQuestion legal team.
"To reassign the trial team at this stage in litigation is — to not put too fine a point on it — insane," former DOJ lawyer Sam Oliker-Friedland saidhttps://www.npr.org/2019/07/07/739369416/justice-department-changes-legal-team-behind-census-citizenship-question-case?live=1 …
11:25 PM - Jul 8, 2019
Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1
DOJ lawyers resigned from the census lawsuit out of ethical concerns and a belief it was unwinnable, NYT reports.
Many did not see a path forward, given that any argument could appear to contradict statements that the admin needed a decision by June 30. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/09/us/census-citizenship-question.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share …
10:05 AM - Jul 10, 2019
I talked to former Justice Dept lawyers about the major shakeup in #CitizenshipQuestion legal team.
"To reassign the trial team at this stage in litigation is — to not put too fine a point on it — insane," former DOJ lawyer Sam Oliker-Friedland saidhttps://www.npr.org/2019/07/07/739369416/justice-department-changes-legal-team-behind-census-citizenship-question-case?live=1 …
11:25 PM - Jul 8, 2019
Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1
DOJ lawyers resigned from the census lawsuit out of ethical concerns and a belief it was unwinnable, NYT reports.
Many did not see a path forward, given that any argument could appear to contradict statements that the admin needed a decision by June 30. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/09/us/census-citizenship-question.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share …
10:05 AM - Jul 10, 2019
Someone called Barr a toadie the other day but I feel like we need a new term. True toadies have more self respect than this.
If you think posting pictures of him back when he was still an innocent baby is going to get any sympathy from me you're sadly mistaken!
They'd have to pass a constitutional amendment to change this. The process of Reapportionment is guaranteed in the constitution.
Vera Bergengruen @VeraMBergen
Trump on his reversal on the US Census citizenship question: "Not only didn't I back down, I backed up."
10:35 AM - Jul 12, 2019
Daniel Dale @ddale8
Trump says getting citizenship information through government data will be "actually more accurate than a Census." Asked if he backed down, he said not only did he not back down, "I backed UP."
After arguing for the necessity of a citizenship question on the Census, and going to the Supreme Court to fight for it, Trump now says "only the fake news" would say getting the info from non-Census data isn't superior.
10:33 AM - Jul 12, 2019
Trump on his reversal on the US Census citizenship question: "Not only didn't I back down, I backed up."
10:35 AM - Jul 12, 2019
Daniel Dale @ddale8
Trump says getting citizenship information through government data will be "actually more accurate than a Census." Asked if he backed down, he said not only did he not back down, "I backed UP."
After arguing for the necessity of a citizenship question on the Census, and going to the Supreme Court to fight for it, Trump now says "only the fake news" would say getting the info from non-Census data isn't superior.
10:33 AM - Jul 12, 2019