How is calling 911 after hitting a deer or a person a red flag? That's exactly what my wife did after a deer ran in to the side of her car.
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Breaking: South Dakota attorney general reported hitting a deer in his car, left the scene, cops found body of a man afterwards
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After hitting a person you definitely need to call 911. A deer isn't a person. If the only problem is your car then why would you call a life or death emergency number after hitting a deer? If you feel obligated to report the road kill then call the non-emergency number.
Pretty much a done deal when the sheriff is intentionally providing cover. Sheriff basically guaranteed that more serious charges would probably fail. Sheriff should lose his job and be investigated/charged, but we all know how that goes.
You call 911 so they can get an officer out there to help move the deer out of the way, put it down if it's still alive and suffering, or write a police report for insurance
You call the non-emergency number for that. Do you call 911 for fender benders where no one is hurt?
Like I don't even know what the non emergency number is, If I need police, Fire, Medical for any reason I call 911 and they forward me as necessary. Nobody has ever told me any different or chastised me for using 911.
Like someone said, 200 feet of skid marks means he saw something and hit the brakes.
Pretty safe assumption he was looking forward at that point, and pretty safe assumption the guy he hit (and stared at for at least 200 feet) looks nothing like a deer.
Going 70mph that's about 2 seconds. Look at something for 2 seconds. That's not a quick glance and glance away.
And he was driving on the shoulder? And he just left a bar? And he borrowed his friend's, the sheriff's, car? And they couldn't find the body? Sounds about white indeed.
Pretty safe assumption he was looking forward at that point, and pretty safe assumption the guy he hit (and stared at for at least 200 feet) looks nothing like a deer.
Going 70mph that's about 2 seconds. Look at something for 2 seconds. That's not a quick glance and glance away.
And he was driving on the shoulder? And he just left a bar? And he borrowed his friend's, the sheriff's, car? And they couldn't find the body? Sounds about white indeed.
100%. There is literally 0 legit reason to not stop after hitting an unidentified thing with your car.
It wasn't just the "road kill," it was the disabled car too. Again, my wife called 911 and her car was perfectly drivable.
Like seriously, earlier in the thread it was a red flag because people thought he had just driven home without calling anyone, now it's a red flag because he called someone. I don't know whether to call this "damned if you do, damned if you don't" or conspiracy theorist-y. The guy was almost certainly speeding, driving recklessly on the shoulder, and likely distracted/impaired (by his phone or worse.) We don't need to dig in to the choice of number he chose to call to find out whether he's a fucking asshole or not.
Also:
- I just asked my wife to confirm a couple of details and she mentioned that the 911 operator specifically told her it was the correct thing to call 911.
- Regardless of if injuries occur, or if you were in a single car collision, make immediate contact through 911. Remain calm and explain the situation. The 911 operators know what to do and will dispatch the authorities.
- The best thing to do is dial 9-1-1.
- And most insurance providers' web sites recommend calling the police (but tend to not specify to use 911 or a non-emergency number.)
LOL, so not to keep throwing my wife's driving under the bus, but last week she hit a patch of ice in a parking lot and slid in to the back of another car. No damage to either car and no one was hurt, but the other driver still called 911.
Victim That South Dakota AG 'Didn't See' Came Through His Windshield, Investigators Say
"His face is in your windshield. Think about it."
'His face was in your windshield': South Dakota AG faces impeachment charges as new details of fatal crash emerge
The state attorney general, Jason Ravnsborg, has said he thought he hit a deer, but investigators noted the dead man's glasses were found in his car
www.nbcnews.com
Prison for life. Nothing less. These guys are not above the law.
Why the fuck are a lot of you so negative and assuming he's gonna get away with this. The dude probably has criminal charges come his way. These things take time. Specially when you are white and have a powerful position. But this dude ain't getting away with this.
Why the fuck are a lot of you so negative and assuming he's gonna get away with this. The dude probably has criminal charges come his way. These things take time. Specially when you are white and have a powerful position. But this dude ain't getting away with this.
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answer to most questions from the investigators: "because i was drunk as fuck..."
Wow, they found the victims broken glasses in his vehicle and this crook still protesting that he "didn't know what he hit".
Yeesh, you'd think from the description that the driver ciipped someone, but clearly they hit the person full-on.
He went through the fucking windshield?
Did this fucker call the sheriff so they could dislodge the body?
Did this fucker call the sheriff so they could dislodge the body?
He's being purposely obtuse he was called out on his statement and he's digging. Absolutely ridiculous.
Yeesh, you'd think from the description that the driver ciipped someone, but clearly they hit the person full-on.
Unless that's a right hand drive car, the "his face was in your windshield" thing is kind of hyperbole. If the driver wasn't paying attention (drunk, drugged, sleepy, inattentive, whatever), and he clearly was not paying attention, it seems possible to me that he didn't identify the thing he hit as a human being for the 1/3 of a second or whatever he was in contact with the car.
"his face was in your windshield" paints a mental image that the driver was making eye contact with the victim through the glass..
Considering how half of the windshield is smashed in I don't think that's all that much of an exaggeration to say" his face was in your windshield".
I mean, any exaggeration is bad when the logical conclusion from the statement as written is that the driver is a murderer. "his face was in your windshield" essentially means "you knew you hit a person", and that basically makes him a murderer since he didn't stop to try to help. Maybe other people read it differently but that's what it meant to me.
Of course he COULD have seen that it was a person, but I don't think it's as certain as that attention grabbing headline implies
Well it's more than just that line or the windshield itself. There was the flashlight that was easily seen from afar and was still on at the scene, the guys glasses inside the actual car, the really long skid marks and so on.
I think it's very likely that he was distracted and saw the guy too late, killed him, panicked and kept driving.
Far from certain though. The glasses thing is bad, but I kind of believe that he didn't see them because why wouldn't he try to dispose of them before the cops showed up? Maybe the flashlight wasn't pointed in the direction of his car. Was there oncoming traffic that obscured his vision? The skidmark and phone usage records are more incriminating than anything else IMO
It was already kind of suspect that the sheriff didn't find the victim when he was just a couple of feet off the road in 8" of grass and pools of blood on the roadway, that the guy's flashlight was still shining when the out of state investigators got to scene makes a cover up much more plausible.
I still have to say though, if you're speeding down the highway late at night, tired, playing around with your phone, swerving on the shoulder, then it's possible he took his eyes off the road long enough to not have seen the victim. Which, to be clear, should still merit a vehicular manslaughter charge.
Hope regardless that the fucker gets impeached.
I still have to say though, if you're speeding down the highway late at night, tired, playing around with your phone, swerving on the shoulder, then it's possible he took his eyes off the road long enough to not have seen the victim. Which, to be clear, should still merit a vehicular manslaughter charge.
Hope regardless that the fucker gets impeached.
It's South Dakota. I live in Rapid City and the state government here is one of the most corrupt I've ever seen.
This state, led by Kristi Noem, is an excellent example of what would happen if the Republican Party has full control to do whatever they want.
The state government here doesn't care one bit about what the people think. They're doing a similar thing with the recently passed marijuana bill.
I'm not surprised he got off, in fact I fully expected it.
He killed someone. He knew about it. He lied about it.
South Dakota AG under pressure to resign as new evidence reveals investigators found victim's broken glasses inside his car.
How is he still walking free?
South Dakota AG under pressure to resign as new evidence reveals investigators found victim's broken glasses inside his car.
How is he still walking free?
Wow. That's quite the smoking gun.
Time to up those misdemeanor counts.
I don't know about plausible, but I do still think it's possible. I think he may have been looking down at his phone or otherwise distracted/impaired and not watching the road. That would explain why he had swerved on to the shoulder of the road. This is a pretty rural area, there's not a lot of people out walking around.
yes, he might have been blitzed out of his mind...
edit: this is to say he's lying, or was driving so drunk he couldn't recognize a human and blacked out
I was just reading Fox news comments on this story. There are thousands.
A walker was found dead by the side of the road one evening and by the next morning the police had tracked the suspected car.
When officers got to the house the damaged car was in the driveway and the driver had booked it in at a local garage.
They thought they hit a sheep, which would have been very possible on the road in question.
The driver was physically sick and distraught when they were told it was a person.
Ultimately I don't think they were prosecuted due to the rural location and the fact the person walking had no lights and no hi-vis clothing.
Not saying this person is innocent, but it can and does happen.
When officers got to the house the damaged car was in the driveway and the driver had booked it in at a local garage.
They thought they hit a sheep, which would have been very possible on the road in question.
The driver was physically sick and distraught when they were told it was a person.
Ultimately I don't think they were prosecuted due to the rural location and the fact the person walking had no lights and no hi-vis clothing.
Not saying this person is innocent, but it can and does happen.
That might be true. But not in this case. They fucking found the victims glasses inside the car. He went outside looked at the corpse and escaped asap.
The windscreen evidence doesn't make it certain he knew he hit someone rather than a deer. At speed it would have been so fast it's plausible he didn't realise.
The real crux is the massive skidmark. There's no way you brake that hard that long, clearly having seen something, and not know it's a man rather than a deer, ESPCIALLY as he was carrying a flashlight. I mean, how many deers are equipped with flashlights out there?
The sheriff needs to be hauled up as well. This is disgusting.
The real crux is the massive skidmark. There's no way you brake that hard that long, clearly having seen something, and not know it's a man rather than a deer, ESPCIALLY as he was carrying a flashlight. I mean, how many deers are equipped with flashlights out there?
The sheriff needs to be hauled up as well. This is disgusting.
Looking at the picture of the car with a hole in the windshield and the fact that the victims glasses were found inside his car seat....I'm gonna take a gander that then sheriff helped pull the body out of the windshield and they forgot to check inside then car.