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efr

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Jun 19, 2019
2,893
Charisma. You don't like Joe I get it but his not so boring personality is actually an asset here.
I like Joe. I really do. That's not my argument I'm making. My argument is that Bernie offered things people need currently, and people voted against it.
Your argument was that Biden has a penis.

See the difference?
 

Titik

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,490
I like Joe. I really do. That's not my argument I'm making. My argument is that Bernie offered things people need currently, and people voted against it.
Your argument was that Biden has a penis.

See the difference?
Yes. Bernie won't do better than in many states that Joe is attractive in.
 

Deleted member 8741

user requested account closure
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Oct 26, 2017
4,917
So like ... what happens on either side of the candidate gets taken out by COVID. I mean that seriously. I guess Pence would be the candidate but what about Biden?
 

Fat4all

Woke up, got a money tag, swears a lot
Member
Oct 25, 2017
92,756
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So like ... what happens on either side of the candidate gets taken out by COVID. I mean that seriously. I guess Pence would be the candidate but what about Biden?
if it happens after biden is the official nominee, whichever VP he picks would likely run id imagine
 

Roliq

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Member
Sep 23, 2018
6,189
While Trump is shit, the stock market crash is not really on him.

Also the low-key celebration in this thread that the stock market crashed is kinda gross. Millions of people are about to suffer in a big way.
I mean part of the reason is that the asshole bragged a lot about how it was him being in charge for the stock to be where it was (even just four days ago he bragged about how it had the biggest rise) so you can't blame people for shitting on him
 

SneakyBadger

Member
Oct 26, 2017
1,545
His base won't care but we have months worth of video footage/tweets of Trump saying COVID was a hoax,just the flu,be over in a month, I take no responsibility, not listening to the CDC etc. The virus was always going to hurt the economy but a competent leader that didn't cut the pandemic office would have been more prepared.

The negative ads write themselves.
This right here. On top of everyone being pissed at the current situation, all the footage of Trump downplaying the virus will be heavy-duty ammunition for political attack ads. Trump losing the election is not a sure thing, but this virus sure as hell is not helping him.
 

night814

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 29, 2017
15,040
Pennsylvania
I don't know if Bush 2 is this incompetent. There were enough adults around him.... I definitely think they were so hyped up and paranoid we would have had more tests
Definitely, the way Trump completely gutted the government when he entered office left everyone else vulnerable to a crisis exactly like this.

When people were saying during the 2016 election that we needed a "steady hand at the wheel" in case of a big crisis they were talking exactly about something like this. No one could have predicted something like this actually happening but that's why there were fail-safes and safety nets in place just in case.
 
So like ... what happens on either side of the candidate gets taken out by COVID. I mean that seriously. I guess Pence would be the candidate but what about Biden?
If it happens after the party conventions, the vice presidential nominee would become the candidate, almost certainly.

Before? That would be chaotic in the extreme, at least in the case of the Democrats. Effectively the convention delegates would be required to nominate Joe Biden on the first ballot, but would then effectively have free rein to pick whoever they wanted as his replacement.
 

Neo C.

Member
Nov 9, 2017
3,001
This time I hope at least 80% of the Asian American population vote against him. I really hope they have learnt their lesson.
 

Mariolee

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
10,310
This time I hope at least 80% of the Asian American population vote against him. I really hope they have learnt their lesson.

Nope. Asian people are racist against other Asian people, so when Trump is boarding this Chinese hate train a lot of old school conservative Asians are all for it. Including my Indonesian father.

I'm guessing you're not Asian?
 

hateradio

Member
Oct 28, 2017
8,750
welcome, nowhere
I know. They thought racism is only towards blacks and latinos, but the last two months all Asian people outside of Asia have faced racism, me included. If that isn't a wake up call, then all hope are lost.
I mean, I'm glad that the OC at least turned blue, so as a whole, Asians do vote blue.

Not all, but most.

Nope. Asian people are racist against other Asian people, so when Trump is boarding this Chinese hate train a lot of old school conservative Asians are all for it. Including my Indonesian father.

I'm guessing you're not Asian?
This is partially true, too.


If all our 401Ks are fucked, he's out. I'm so excited about that.

I mean, it's terrible, but maybe we can socialize some shit. Come on dems, let's do this 2020!
 

Zed

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Oct 28, 2017
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"The Deep State SEELE and their double agent Rei ruined my economy!"
 

raYne_07

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Oct 27, 2017
5,205
What does this mean in layman's terms? And what does this mean for Trump?
Well, his main drawn for the masses was the economy being great. Which has nothing to do with him, but he gladly took credit every chance he got. Now the economy is shit, so why would people vote for him again (other than the obvious..)? People are going to trust the guy with a shit load of failed business ventures and bankruptcies to bring it back?
 

Jazar

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Oct 25, 2017
1,477
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When people were saying during the 2016 election that we needed a "steady hand at the wheel" in case of a big crisis they were talking exactly about something like this. No one could have predicted something like this actually happening but that's why there were fail-safes and safety nets in place just in case.

Actually Obama's team did predict this pandemic scenario and presented it to the Trump members. You could imagine how that meeting went and who is actually still working in the White House:

www.politico.com

Before Trump’s inauguration, a warning: ‘The worst influenza pandemic since 1918’

In a tabletop exercise days before an untested new president took power, officials briefed the incoming administration on a scenario remarkably like the one he faces now.
 

Titik

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Oct 25, 2017
7,490
Definitely, the way Trump completely gutted the government when he entered office left everyone else vulnerable to a crisis exactly like this.

When people were saying during the 2016 election that we needed a "steady hand at the wheel" in case of a big crisis they were talking exactly about something like this. No one could have predicted something like this actually happening but that's why there were fail-safes and safety nets in place just in case.
We actually had plenty of warnings from experts. But the topic of viruses are boring until it hits the fan.

The other thing that experts are giving us plenty of warnings is our infrastructure all decaying like crazy. Infrastructure week jokes aside, this is actually a real problem.
 

Gabbo

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Oct 25, 2017
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Well, his main drawn for the masses was the economy being great. Which has nothing to do with him, but he gladly took credit every chance he got. Now the economy is shit, so why would people vote for him again (other than the obvious..)? People are going to trust the guy with a shit load of failed business ventures and bankruptcies to bring it back?
I mean, they trusted him the first time around and those failed business ventures and bankruptcies were already well established facts, not something that happened after he won.
 
Well, his main drawn for the masses was the economy being great. Which has nothing to do with him, but he gladly took credit every chance he got. Now the economy is shit, so why would people vote for him again (other than the obvious..)? People are going to trust the guy with a shit load of failed business ventures and bankruptcies to bring it back?
it almost like the economic anxiety excuses were bullshit!
 

raYne_07

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Oct 27, 2017
5,205
I mean, they trusted him the first time around and those failed business ventures and bankruptcies were already well established facts, not something that happened after he won.
That's a different thing. Most people outside NY didn't know a thing about Trump other than him being the famous Apprentice "billionaire" real estate guy. Later the non-establishment "tell it like it is" anti-Hillary. Him being a shit businessman doesn't really matter in terms of voting for the Presidency.

This specifically is like trusting a serial arsonist with a can of gas and a lighter.. then being surprised he burned your house down. People expecting a shitty businessman to be great at bringing back the economy are fooling themselves.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Well, his main drawn for the masses was the economy being great. Which has nothing to do with him, but he gladly took credit every chance he got. Now the economy is shit, so why would people vote for him again (other than the obvious..)? People are going to trust the guy with a shit load of failed business ventures and bankruptcies to bring it back?

Yes because he makes them feel like they're superior to minorities, and will bring back the "good ol days"
 

raYne_07

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Oct 27, 2017
5,205
Yes because he makes them feel like they're superior to minorities, and will bring back the "good ol days"
Again, that's why I wrote "(other than the obvious..)" in the initial post. I know why those people would vote for him, but I'm talking about people specifically voting for him because they expect him to be able to fix the economy..
 

WarMacheen

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
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While Trump is shit, the stock market crash is not really on him.

Also the low-key celebration in this thread that the stock market crashed is kinda gross. Millions of people are about to suffer in a big way.
if you claim the gains, after doing almost nothing, then you also have to claim the loss.
 

Garlador

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
14,131
Yes because he makes them feel like they're superior to minorities, and will bring back the "good ol days"
This whole time, I wish SOMEONE would have asked him "when you say you're "Making America Great Again", when exactly do you THINK America was great and when do you think it stopped being great?"

Well, now we have our answers. "Make American Great Depression Again".
 

Stinkles

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
20,459
You're really doing it, huh?
We just had an impeachment trial over a phone call about his son, he wasn't even running yet.
Trump just threw out Benghazi memes and her emails to get some Democrats to question their vote and vote Independent, which helped him win. You think a candidate with a history of questionable votes and a facebook/social media following of being creepy with children on camera is going to beat Trump and his army of Russian bots and MAGA? When you yourself are falling for BernieBros on Twitter?


I'm going to be courteous here and respond, but you should realize most people don't seem to be responding to you or questioning your posts because they're afraid of being banned for upsetting a dev. Your post history shows a lot of good responses but no one replying and that kind of sucks.

The Democratic party keeps making the same mistakes over and over.
John Kerry was "electable."
Al Gore was "electable" (ex-VP with a popular President fyi)
Hilary Clinton was a life long public servant and was "electable"
Donald Trump wasn't "electable."
Yet here we are.

I'm really really doing it.
I think Biden is a dusty old mess. I wish he hadn't run. Bernie is almost the same age and had a heart attack a couple of months ago and is a "socialist "

Anyone who tells you one of these guys is a can't miss no brainer most electable candidate is crazy.

but as i specifically pointed out, his voters are aligning with polling.

I prefer Bernie's policy - I'm an immigrant from a poor and once working class unemployed mining family from Northern Europe— but I suspect it's impossible to pass Bernie's ideas in the current climate so I voted for Elizabeth Warren by mail before she dropped out and before Biden's surge. I also think Bernie us untested in a GE for oppo or sticky attacks - but that could be better or worse than Biden. I don't know what they've got or what they plan to invent.

I do know the eventual candidate 100% needs African Americans to vote for and support him. That's about the only solid stat I can point to.

And Al Gore won both the popular and electoral college votes. The Supreme Court interfered with that result.

One day I expect we'll see similar data about Clinton. But you're yelling at a cloud. I'm simply stating what happened. You're the one applying judgment of that happenstance.
 
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