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Bravely Default II |OT| The Four Heroes of Light's Excillant Adventure
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Deep into persona 5 strikers on PlayStation when a family situation came up.
And travel time is switch time. Picked this up. Reading this over it sounds like I should have been foraging
And travel time is switch time. Picked this up. Reading this over it sounds like I should have been foraging
I'm starting to wonder if there is an Asterisk tied to expeditions. The tutorial expedition I did got me a key item called the pretty stone that even got a party chat dialogue about it, apparently a beautiful but broken stone.. I'm wondering if there is a way to fix it and it becomes a job
Yeah at first I wasn't so sure going to a more traditional turn based approach compared to the old way, but I think I'm starting to prefer it now. The old way locks you in no matter what, so if an enemy disrupts your plan you just wasted a turn. Battles in BD2, on the other hand, allow you to be more reactive to battles and let you change strategies on the fly. I find that it makes battles more dynamic and engaging.
Maybe I just SUCK big time but I feel like the game basically forces you to try different comps throughout the game cause I seriously can't beat two asterisk holders in a row without even grinding the newly-acquired asterisk. I can't rely on old comps to power through the bosses.
Yesterday I have completed the prologue. I can already see the complexity behind the gameplay. I played the original BD years ago, so I already knew that, but it is always nice to see it.
Now I am already finding the battles more difficult than in the prologue, I must be much more cautious than before. Do you have suggestions about how leveling up classes, which ones should be prioritized, in order to have the best set up?
Now I am already finding the battles more difficult than in the prologue, I must be much more cautious than before. Do you have suggestions about how leveling up classes, which ones should be prioritized, in order to have the best set up?
It turns out there is an Underdog Bonus for JP, as well? Looks like it is based on the total amount of accrued (and not wasted) JP, with the only characters getting it are Gloria and Elvis both of whom I had as a capped class (WM/BM) for two of the late Chapter 2 boss fights. That means the early parts of Chapter 3 likely have an expected target JP of about 1.5-1.8x the amount of JP that it takes to master one class. Level 22/23 is underleveled for Exp bonus for my entire party. I'm on Hard, but I don't think it makes a difference for any of these numbers.
There's a lot of nuance to the game, and bosses do progressively get more demanding in terms of understanding the mechanics. There's an inflection in power from Tier 1 (Rank 1-4), Tier 2 (5-8) and Tier 3 (Rank 9-12), and also gradually increasing demand on blending passives and tweaking your gear. I think you can mostly get by on the Tier 1 skills up until mid Chapter 1, and only at the end of Chapter 2 do I think the game really demands that player are starting to learn some of the big damage moves in Tier 3.
I've never felt like the game has been over specific on using the newest jobs for the next bosses.
This is a giant improvement, but I'm usually pretty down on Round Based RPG systems anyway. I've played hundreds of RPGs at this point, and Round Based systems often fail to capitalize on the nuances of the game's battle system and mechanics. Boss battles are consistently more engaging and demanding than anything I encountered in my (incomplete) playthroughs of BD1 and BS.
There's a lot of nuance to the game, and bosses do progressively get more demanding in terms of understanding the mechanics. There's an inflection in power from Tier 1 (Rank 1-4), Tier 2 (5-8) and Tier 3 (Rank 9-12), and also gradually increasing demand on blending passives and tweaking your gear. I think you can mostly get by on the Tier 1 skills up until mid Chapter 1, and only at the end of Chapter 2 do I think the game really demands that player are starting to learn some of the big damage moves in Tier 3.
I've never felt like the game has been over specific on using the newest jobs for the next bosses.
This is a giant improvement, but I'm usually pretty down on Round Based RPG systems anyway. I've played hundreds of RPGs at this point, and Round Based systems often fail to capitalize on the nuances of the game's battle system and mechanics. Boss battles are consistently more engaging and demanding than anything I encountered in my (incomplete) playthroughs of BD1 and BS.
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As I suspected, ya'll doing some serious grinding and/or intense sidequesting. =D
I just finished chapter 1 at level 14 and that's having fought every enemy in my path, gotten every chest in every dungeon, completed most of the sidequests in the prologue including the optional dungeon, and usually having everyone alive at the end of all the fights I've never run from. I assume there's an optional dungeon (and I know there's an optional boss) for chapter 1 but that's probably a level or two max and it's considered optional by the game for a reason.
Still not sure what classes I want to run. Hrrrm.
Level matters more than it did in OT, but it isn't that important, thankfully. Tweaking Job/Passives/Equipment is key to pushing your damage and defense higher than raw level does.
Weird, since what you've listed is basically all I've been doing as well, with the addition of Chapter 1 side quests.
The couple of short JP farming sessions I've done have been at the prologue beach, so not getting any substantial EXP from that.
I have used a few Monster Treats when running through some of the dungeons normally, but only occasionally.
FWIW, most people I've seen listing their levels have been in the upper teens when ending Chapter 1. You're way on the low end, for whatever reason.
I usually assume these kinds of differences are due to habits being formed over time that get thought of as normal and imbued into language as such. Like, I don't actually know what basically, all, addition, couple, short, substantial, some, normally, occasionally, most, seen, ending, and way mean here with any real precision. Good chance we'd disagree on specific meanings (which actions would fall under which category) with many of those terms.
I don't think I want to know what ya'lls job levels look like.
What's the deal with the Wiki-Wiki enemy? I'm thinking it's something like a Metal Slime from DQ or the Golden shadows from Persona. They always retreat before I can do anything to them. 🤷🏿♂️
They give a lot of exp when beaten. I managed to beat them usually with a character equipped with a dagger spamming Vanguard's earth element attack, and they can be hurt with Fire spells, the bigger the better (probably others too but they are the ones I used)
Thief gloves! Finally!
I think only if you use White Mage at job level 12 with Red Mage as a sub-job.
Started playing with thief and I got a Giant JP orb when I booted up. I used it and went from level 1 thief to level 10 lol. The thief has some useful passives like mug but I don't really like the stats. I'll probably max it out for a few characters though because of the useful passives and some abilities.
Just started Chapter 2, level 17, Normal.
Chapter 2 was a jump up from the end of Chapter 1, so I went back to the beach to get this ability and glad I did.
Very early chapter 3 speculation:
That guy was clearly a necromancer and now this dragon is following the "stink of death" of a lot of human lives being taken at once... but the town is full of people and seems completely normal but still stinks of death.
The entire town is dead and being reanimated aren't they?
The entire town is dead and being reanimated aren't they?
IMO thief is one of those jobs that really begs to be used as a sub job for something else similarly speedy. I like the outfit so I use it on the MC anyway, but I find it basically begs to be equipped to something else with better specialties and proficiencies. Godspeed Strike is really strong though, people shouldn't sleep on it
I've found that Godspeed really benefits from Thief's turn order/speed and accuracy. Whiffing on a Godspeed after spending all that MP suuuuucks.
And Chapter 3 was another jump up that made my feeling of being powerful fade real quick.
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Finally went back and beat that rare aquatic monster on the beach, stole a really good sword from it too (Icebrand, easily the strongest weapon I've found)
Lmao I love it
Lmao I love it
I tried to capture rares but wasn't successful. I figure this is not possible? In the description it says capture doesn't work on stronger enemies but I was thinking bosses.
Yeah I was thinking the same. The speed stats are great but risky still. should be mostly used as a sub for the abilities I think.
Went back and defeated the Nightmare rare enemy near Savalon and stole the Dark Robe from it, so it seems each rare enemy has a good equipment drop. If you went in with a good tank character drawing all the aggro you could easily rob the enemy blind and flee if you aren't strong enough to beat them normally yet.
Nightmare was a fun one, hit like a truck and was super fast but Gloria kept using Artistry to lower its attack, Adelle kept stealing its speed buff and granting BP to Elvis who was using Red Mage's Healaga (guaranteed 3900 damage) 8 times per turn to bring it down lol
Nightmare was a fun one, hit like a truck and was super fast but Gloria kept using Artistry to lower its attack, Adelle kept stealing its speed buff and granting BP to Elvis who was using Red Mage's Healaga (guaranteed 3900 damage) 8 times per turn to bring it down lol
I've just beaten the boss at the end of chapter 3, but it seemed like he did a ton of damage to himself in the fight, without me having any reflect ability up that I can think of. Still trying to figure out what it was. Resistances just absorb rather than reflect, so it wasn't that either.
What's the best place to farm for JP very early without overleveling?
I found a little vid of a dungeon to the north of the first town where you can sort of herd the enemy like cats into a 10-or-more stage continuous battle, and that gives an absolute ton of JP and next to no EXP, so right now I'm thinking that
I don't want to max out everything. Pretty much just the Freelancer for everyone, then I'll just play as normal without grinding again
Edit: I see now that you can do stuff on that beach, which is what everyone was talking about
I found a little vid of a dungeon to the north of the first town where you can sort of herd the enemy like cats into a 10-or-more stage continuous battle, and that gives an absolute ton of JP and next to no EXP, so right now I'm thinking that
I don't want to max out everything. Pretty much just the Freelancer for everyone, then I'll just play as normal without grinding again
Edit: I see now that you can do stuff on that beach, which is what everyone was talking about
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I just stole a bow from a rare enemy using the trick I mentioned earlier and it's super powerful but its weight is 55, higher than the max limit for every single one of my characters. Definitely an endgame weapon haha
I guess the weight limit is partly there to stop you doing exactly this, I have noticed that equipment is getting progressively heavier the better it is
I guess the weight limit is partly there to stop you doing exactly this, I have noticed that equipment is getting progressively heavier the better it is
I've just got to the end of chapter 3, and I'm still having a blast with the game. I got slightly carried away and maxed out all the jobs except the ones given during chapter 3, but I'm still underleveled regardless due to using the fish method in the starting area. The gameplay is really opening up with all of these jobs now available to play with, though I'm making a point of avoiding using freelancer for now since it'll be super-buffed.
Story-wise I think it's beginning to really pick up as well, especially over the past couple of chapters. The tone aligns more with BD1 than BS, which isn't necessarily better makes for a change of pace since BS was the last game I beat before starting BD2.
Story-wise I think it's beginning to really pick up as well, especially over the past couple of chapters. The tone aligns more with BD1 than BS, which isn't necessarily better makes for a change of pace since BS was the last game I beat before starting BD2.
I hated the demo of this, and although I played quite a bit of the original 3DS game I don't think I ever 'got' it, and didn't realise you need to switch up your party setup to exploit the bosses.
Playing this one I think I finally get it, and actually the graphical style that I hated in the demo has massively grown on me and I'm really enjoying it. The combat got way too easy for a bit in the first area, but now on the way to the second town it is a real challenge again, and a lot of fun. The enemies look great and are really well animated too.
Playing this one I think I finally get it, and actually the graphical style that I hated in the demo has massively grown on me and I'm really enjoying it. The combat got way too easy for a bit in the first area, but now on the way to the second town it is a real challenge again, and a lot of fun. The enemies look great and are really well animated too.
As far as I know, the main (only?) thing difficulty mode changes is enemy speed (i.e., how many turns they get).
I'm playing on Hard and it's not too bad as long as you're willing to change up your team sometimes. If you lose to a boss, you probably know exactly what went wrong and how to fix it.
BD2's turn system allows battles to be more dynamic / reactive than BD1 too IMO.
Only speed is affected? That's interesting. I'm glad they didn't go the way of just making enemies more spongy in this case. And the turn system when I played the demo was pretty damn jarring too, so I'm hoping I'll get used to it.