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Bravely Default II launches February 26, 2021 + changes made after the demo
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I really like the environmental artstyle and the cities/towns look stunning similar to the 3DS games.
Character models are alright, but not a big improvement over the 3DS games.
The voice acting....sounds kinda iffy?
Character models are alright, but not a big improvement over the 3DS games.
The voice acting....sounds kinda iffy?
The changes video is neat. I did notice that the framerate was better in the retail footage, so hopefully any further hitches will be smoothed out by release, but it looks at least tolerable now.
Super excited, love the artstyle and I'm sure the game's going to try to mindfuck us a third time.
Super excited, love the artstyle and I'm sure the game's going to try to mindfuck us a third time.
The difficulty of the demo was just too much for me to enjoy, so I'm glad to hear there will be options even though the demo was made more difficult on purpose. I love the art and music of this series. I was complaining about missing these relatively lower budget, older style games recently so this should be nice.
Hard to tell but Google Translate calls it "original arrangement music". I doubt it's the full soundtrack though since that will most likely go on sale separately around/after launch.
How is the voice acting so bad? Octopath Traveler had solid voice direction. Nothing is as gripping here are Olberic or Cyrus. Nothing as charming as Alfyn or Tressa.
Not feeling it thus far.
Not feeling it thus far.
Expected sadly, Covid hurts everything.
Still, this looks better than when it was initially announced and than in the last demo.
Still, this looks better than when it was initially announced and than in the last demo.
twitter is broken for me so that tweet doesn't load. but checking official website, you'll get special arranged track download code (that expires after a year) if you buy digital ver by end of march or getting 1st print edition for physical. so far this only applies for jp ver since it's being published by sqex there
I really enjoyed the first game but that trailer was kinda rough but that is probably due to the pandemic.
Man I love how the environments look in this game. Characters are less good, but still pretty alright, and voice acting is...oof, at least for some characters (overdressed villain man in particular did not sound great). Pretty excited for the game overall though, and it looks like they took the demo feedback to heart.
Funny, I thought the models and textures looked better than ever. I was really pleasantly surprised by the fabrics and monster skin surface details. I will *definitely* be playing with Japanese VO. Those English performances were just awful.
you got that flipped? I've never heard or thought of Second as divisive. All that energy is directed towards the first game
Disappointing that this being a Switch game still have the low budget presentation and chibi character models. The voice acting is also really bad and cheesy dialogue. I'd much rather SE go back to the drawing board and give this game a much higher budget and attention that it deserves.
It is not the same devs and an Octopath sequel is already in development.
Ok I thought that looked really good
But
sorry to be annoying
I'm gonna be pissed if there's no Visual Works CGI but that looks like that's gonna be the case at this point
But
sorry to be annoying
I'm gonna be pissed if there's no Visual Works CGI but that looks like that's gonna be the case at this point
Chibi is a design choice not a power thing. SE has said Switch gives them a chance to explore AA medium budget games as well. The character art sucks but the environmental art is pretty good and it actually looks pretty polished from a presentation stand point. VA is a miss though I agree
Everything about this looks great, except for the battle speed. Default looks too slow, and double speed still makes info disappear too quickly? I appreciate the speed QOL but I don't think they get it quite right.
As expected, the Job outfit designs are pure S-Tier. VERY few of the Square games with Jobs have such a diverse range of designs between characters (notably FFX-2 and Bravely Second). All of them look so great.
As expected, the Job outfit designs are pure S-Tier. VERY few of the Square games with Jobs have such a diverse range of designs between characters (notably FFX-2 and Bravely Second). All of them look so great.
The fact it's only being essentially delayed two months is freaking incredible to me given Square-Enix's comments on COVID essentially halting development of their games.
I'm very happy about the changes in difficulty levels, the demo was balls-hard and not fun at all.
I'm actively repelled by the artstyle chosen for the characters. That's some of the fugliest shit I've seen in a good while. A shame, because the actual game systems look fun. But I just can't with those characters.
I guess im one of the few ok with the characters and art. Happy to see some of the changes implemented...would have liked to play it this year but oh well.
Yeah it a bummer when games with job systems dont have a lot of visual difference between character using the same job. I remember in FF3 I noticed the Ninja job was the only one with any character differences.
Refia gets a whole new outfit. But the othet characters at least wore their headgear different which was nice.
Even by choice, I think they're just terribly done. Games like Trials of Mana also had chibi-ish model but way better looking.
Yeah Trials of Mana is my go to "AA games done right". I wish SE would go that route for all of these smaller scale RPGs.
I dunno if I would peg Trials of Mana as Chibi. It doesn't really have that super big head compared to the rest of the body proportions. It is decidedly cartoony though and I do think it looks much better than this model wise. ToM looks more like Dragon Quest model wise.
I think what bothers me here is it is too much of a mix. I posted a picture of the DS FF3 remake and despite being way lower detail I like the model proportions a lot more.
Anyway. What I was getting at was that the art is more about development goals that it is about hardware power.
Each day that passes I can't believe how much Trials of Mana lucked out given their other lower budget efforts.
Secret of Mana was done so dirty, I wonder if they'll do another Remake with this engine since Trails of Mana overperformedEach day that passes I can't believe how much Trials of Mana lucked out given their other lower budget efforts.
Personally I'm ok with the character models they feel weird only a handful of times but I get where people are coming from I also wanted them to look a little more human-sized and less chibi.
Funny to read some stuff here were most people are confussing artstyle with little budget or low quality character models.
This 2 games on the same system come to mind were they are lower quality character models (trails has been given as an example in this same thread), or MUCH lower character models on a game that SHOULD have a bigger budget (pokemon) with a more palatable artsyle for most peopel in this forum:
(this is the switch version, not the PC one that has bbeen posted)
Again, you can hate the artsyle (i personally dont, to each their own) but the work put into them is bigger than a ton of switch games out there that had very little criticism about it. Pokemon Sword/shield DO actually look like uprezed 3ds models, even with higher polycounts compared to THEIR older games, not other studios working on 3ds (the texturework is basically non existant here, with flat details even for importanrt characters everywhere), something that Bravely Default 2 clearly doesnt.
This shit about chibi/smaller characters = to less work/budget put into them needs to stop.
Please send me your 3ds and bravelyy default game if it actually had character models with this polygonal count, better animations, high qiality textures and fur shading,
Like you dont like the artsyle fine, but the model quality is clearly visble from one to the other
And this last one is a commercial render, it doesnt even look that good in the game. Onlu the belt of the girl in the frist screenshot has alreay more texture work than the majority of the old models, and more polygon count than most of the body of any character in the original. Is night and day.
This 2 games on the same system come to mind were they are lower quality character models (trails has been given as an example in this same thread), or MUCH lower character models on a game that SHOULD have a bigger budget (pokemon) with a more palatable artsyle for most peopel in this forum:
(this is the switch version, not the PC one that has bbeen posted)
Again, you can hate the artsyle (i personally dont, to each their own) but the work put into them is bigger than a ton of switch games out there that had very little criticism about it. Pokemon Sword/shield DO actually look like uprezed 3ds models, even with higher polycounts compared to THEIR older games, not other studios working on 3ds (the texturework is basically non existant here, with flat details even for importanrt characters everywhere), something that Bravely Default 2 clearly doesnt.
This shit about chibi/smaller characters = to less work/budget put into them needs to stop.
Please send me your 3ds and bravelyy default game if it actually had character models with this polygonal count, better animations, high qiality textures and fur shading,
Like you dont like the artsyle fine, but the model quality is clearly visble from one to the other
And this last one is a commercial render, it doesnt even look that good in the game. Onlu the belt of the girl in the frist screenshot has alreay more texture work than the majority of the old models, and more polygon count than most of the body of any character in the original. Is night and day.
Trials is normal shonen design, not chibi. I think mkost of you are having a big problem with the faces, not the whole body. You can use FFIX as an actual chibi design example that is more platable to people's tastes. Again, the biggest difference between FFIX character renders (not ingame models) and these characters is the face.
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They've released an English version of the changes video. Well, to a given value of "English", it's the same video, and uses the Japanese version of the game, but that text as well as the other description text is in English.
I actually thought the trailer looked great and felt it was an improvement over the first one! The environments look so nice and clean <3
A little sad that it's missing a 2020 release but I guess by now it was kind of clear.
Also looks like they really took the feedback to heart and so far what I've read about the changes makes me feel fairly optimistic.
A little sad that it's missing a 2020 release but I guess by now it was kind of clear.
Also looks like they really took the feedback to heart and so far what I've read about the changes makes me feel fairly optimistic.