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Boyega, Hamill, JJ and Isaac on Star Wars' Romance and a Gross Comment by Boyega (Open Spoilers)
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Does he do this at all though? His statement seems like just some of the same mild shipping that fans do all the time.
I feel like there IS a discussion to be had here on the normalization of language carrying over to the real world. But that's so divorced from what the thread started as, and what the bad faith actors have tried to make it into.
For instance, if OP did something as small as posted "crass" instead of "gross", you would have a significantly milder thread, where the nuances of this discussion could actually be argued. I personally don't think "laying pipe" is sexist because it reduces both the male and female organs to objects, but within the context of a male dominated society, I can see how it reinforce "stereotypical" male thought, while downplaying "stereotypical" female thought.
But yea, I feel like this thread wasn't honest from the jump, so I don't know if this discussion is gonna go anywhere.
I mean, if he said that after this, probably.
But, if he'd said that first, among crazy ReyLo shippers, absolutely. But speaking personally, I would've looked, shrugged, and moved on, like I did when he made the comments about his issues with TLJ.
Think about how much racist, sexist toxic garbage all the actors on Star Wars have had to endure for the last few years (and probably will for many more years to come).
Maybe consider leaving your obsessions with these actors, and their slightly rude tweets, behind in 2019 where they belong.
happy new year, everyone, fuck Star Wars and fuck Disney :)
Maybe consider leaving your obsessions with these actors, and their slightly rude tweets, behind in 2019 where they belong.
happy new year, everyone, fuck Star Wars and fuck Disney :)
User banned (2 weeks): mansplaining, mocking a woman for her concerns of sexism
it's none of those things, you're just deciding that it is.
this take is as off as me saying your whole post is actually about how the moon landing was a hoax
It's a very mild backhanded shipping joke that people are feigning offense at *for reasons*
Why are so many people ignoring the "You are a genius." part of the original comment? He might as well have responded with a picture of the dude tapping his head
god damn dude i love the internet
This is the funniest shit I've seen all day.
One of the weird things about this discussion is that outside of nutty method actors, actors must be especially good at separating characters from actors otherwise their lives would be confusing at best and nightmares at worst.
Bruh people itt are tryna shade him over it, it's all mad.
Lot of Woke-ERA wouldn't last more than 5 minutes talking to people from Peckham.
Oh get out of here with this. What does that have to do with literally any of this?
Eh nothing. Finn was clearly pining after Rey in TFA and TLJ.
The Poe stuff was fans wanting more than anything that was actually supported onscreen. Reylo sucks too though, but at least Rian started seeding stuff for it in TLJ.
I never been comfortable when folks take shit to far, especially with the thinking "Two people get along, clearly they want to bone", That is not rational or healthy thinking.
Man, I see Boyega is going all in. I don't agree with his comments about the Kelly Marie Tran situation, but honestly, anyone calling shippers' shit is a-ok. Specially because I don't think he's being offensive, just stating how little he cares.
I see we're in the "he was just trolling" portion of the argument to defend a shitty dumb sexist statement.
it's just a euphemism for sex lmao
and like all sex related euphemisms, can it be used in a derogatory, misogynist way? yes. of course. but you're reading so much excessive garbage into it that has no bearing with how the phrase is commonly used. complete nonsense
Actors aren't the sole creators of their characters, it's a collaborative effort to bring them to life. If there wasn't that line, directing and writing would be a nightmare
I agree it's crass in the sense that it puts having sex as the victory which is very much a male centric ego point of view. Is that what people mean by sexualizing Rey? I don't think acknowledging sexual attraction in itself is bad.
I'm so mad that these characters didn't fuck. Did they not see the slowed down gif of Poe!?
People headcannoing ships from nothing and then getting pissed at the creators is always super dumb.
Not once did Poe or Finn seem like they were gonna be together, you dang weirdos.
Because then the whole argument deflates when you remove any and all context. He was clearly mocking the idea and used a crass figure of speech. He wasn't expressing his desire in "laying pipe" with Daisy or even Rey. He was making FUN of that line of thinking.
This is why people are pushing back. I don't see how you could red that thread and come to some of the conclusion presented here.
Because it's totally sexism and not a sarcastic joke at all and we're totally a ok going after this black guy for his harsh comments and totally not racist an any way shape form or suggestion.
It was so sexist, in fact, that apparently Daisy doesn't give a damn. She was so offended she must have just circled back around to the other side and is now fine with it.
The fact that people are genuinely trying to take this comment and use it to paint Boyega as unprofessional and sexist is fucking ridiculous.
What is it with people's rampant desire to absolutely bury a good person? We just had this happen to Terry Crews the other day and a few weeks back we even had a thread about Michelle Obama of all people over her comments about George Bush. Come on now.
What is it with people's rampant desire to absolutely bury a good person? We just had this happen to Terry Crews the other day and a few weeks back we even had a thread about Michelle Obama of all people over her comments about George Bush. Come on now.
I can see some posters being defensive because John Boyega does get piled on for really small things, and we all know he's going to face a lot more vitirol just because he's a black man, so I can see some posters being overly defensive because there are people out there ready to latch on to anything a black man does even a little wrong just to bring him down. That's ahy I said it's a small thing really in the grand scheme of things, and I don't think John Boyeag is a bad person over it, it's a sucky joke.
But that's only going to apply to some of the posters in this thread, and I've seen enough threads in this forum about sexism or heck just women posters opinions, that even when the OP is perfectly worded, or there isn't the background of John Boyega being piled on it the past, thjere would still be a flood of guys coming out to downplay women's concerns and insinuate you are being a crazy irrational women for having a problem with it. I already have had a poster compare my concerns with the joke to the moon landing "conspiracy" in this very thread. It's expected at this point.
Yeah, nothign wrong with wanting something, but when it becomes a need, then an imperative....then you need to step back
The entire context original starts from him tweeting the pic having a laugh at Reylo. Like it's not even a bit unclear he is just having a laugh at shippers and dunking on how stupid the whole thing is. Is laying pipe crass? Obviously, it's suppose to be. If guy was trying to be 100% puritan he wouldn't tweet a fucking spoiler to a movie he is in or have dropped about 15 hilarious gifs dunking on obnoxious fans.
Are peeps even for real here? (I agree with you just to clarify)
You do realize that just because you repeat the word sexist over and over again it doesn't actually make it sexist right?
User Banned (3 Weeks): Inflammatory false equivalences surrounding gender and race across a series of posts
So, if it's OK for black men to make harsh sarcastic jokes about women, then it should be totally OK for women to make racist jokes about black guys, as long as they're sarcastic and if you criticiaze them alll, that just proves you're a sexist, right?
I mean, putting aside we have no actual proof of this, even if Daisy is OK with this, there's likely plenty of female Star War fans upset with Boyega making a gross joke about a female character in Star Wars.
Now, I realize, many of them probably aren't True Fans, but their opinions matter as well.
Plenty of people in this thread seem to think repeating 'racist' over and over again makes something racist.
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