I don't even care if they never follow up on that cliffhanger, I just want an X continuation because the world design and exploration are by far the best in the series
Don't blue ball me here MonolithSoft
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Xenoblade Chronicles 3 could (and probably will) bring all three games together. Though, after Future Connected I want more in that setting and Melia as the protagonist. If 3 has another boring ass boy/man protagonist I'll riot.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind it if the cast of Xenoblade 1 got to enjoy their time off at long last. Melia finally got her big, fat W at the end of FC and thus all have earned their time off at this point.
X has to be an alternate universe to XC1 and XC2 because the fate of the Earth is different. Xenosaga and XC2 establish infinite parallel universes, though, and they could interact.
Close, but not quite.
The Lifehold didn't contain their bodies. The plan was to clone their bodies using human DNA goo, which is one thing Lao was upset about (violating the sanctity of the human body). The Lifehold was a big computer that stored the humans' consciousnesses, which were remotely operating the mimesomes from the Lifehold. They needed to find the Lifehold before it lost power because if it did their consciousnesses would be wiped and they'd die. After the credits, Elma discovers that the Lifehold was destroyed in the crash and everyone should already be dead.
Eh, Future Connected showcased the huge gulf in storytelling and character writing since XBC first launched on the Wii. I would also like to see Sharla and Fiora also be more fleshed out as characters.
The problem is that Xenoblade 2 is monumentally more popular than X. It's definitely a more attractive proposition to just continue the story of the numbered entries for now and leave X for later if ever.
XC2 told a great story, fleshed out its characters really well, and brought back the Greek gnosticism and Jungian psychology from XG and XS and brought back more concepts from those games. XC1 and XC2 both got satisfactory ends with room for continuation. Future Connected was made specifically to tease the future of the series.
Takahashi: "With Future Connected, we're able to draw in those who've already played Xenoblade Chronicles; moreover, there's details there that connect to the future of Xenoblade. So we created it for two and a half reasons. Another rationale being we had an unused map from the main game, the Bionis' shoulder, which was appropriate for the setting."
there was more character development in the ~3 hours of FC than all of XC1
Really showed how much the writing team has grown since that game. I know 2 gets a lot of guff for the tropey stuff, but the actual character writing is honestly really damn good.
I agree, the main villains of 2 squash any character from 1. The main party could still use more work but nia and zeke were better than the characters of 1 as well.
I think it's more of a consistency problem between the different writing teams. I actually thought that the entire cast came off really great all around in the heart-to-hearts, but that also involved some wonky stuff like Rex in the heart-to-hearts being a lot more mature for his age than in the main plot, or Tora's emotional growth being more prevalent in those scenes rather than the main plot, which cedes a lot of that development to Poppi more often than not. It's a smaller-scale version of the problem they ran into with X, where the side content is so engrossing and captivating from start to finish while the main story feels like it was caught in first gear until the last couple of chapters.
I felt the only characters in 1 that got any real development were Shulk and Melia. Pretty much every character in 2 got more development, including the blades.
I would be interested to see how they'd connect X to the other 2 games considering how different their backstories are.
I always assumed the Vita is what was causing the Tainted, because they only appear in the area directly around where it crashed. And Elma comments about the oppressive feeling it gives off and that it's made with Dark Matter, which is another thing that's never brought up again.
Not really. She vaguely mentions her mysterious partner again, but nothing really new.
I thought so too, I don't see how this is like the fog beasts or gnosis though which appear to be interdimensional (or intradimensional with gnosis)
another aspect of Xeno X i'm wondering about is
the original Samaarians and the other alien race that was fighting the Ganglion when they destroyed Earth.
the first one suggests that those Samaarians came from a different universe and way into the past and were humans or of human origin. i never picked that up when i first played the game but i did a replay this year and that part jumped out to me because it seemed like that could have been one of the things that happened as consequence of the events in Xenoblade 2 that made the multiple universes (that bit where different parts of earth got thrown to different planes of existence when the Conduit was activated)
about the other alien race, we never got any info but there must be a reason they wanted to destroy the Ganglion, especially after knowing the Ganglion's origins.
the first one suggests that those Samaarians came from a different universe and way into the past and were humans or of human origin. i never picked that up when i first played the game but i did a replay this year and that part jumped out to me because it seemed like that could have been one of the things that happened as consequence of the events in Xenoblade 2 that made the multiple universes (that bit where different parts of earth got thrown to different planes of existence when the Conduit was activated)
about the other alien race, we never got any info but there must be a reason they wanted to destroy the Ganglion, especially after knowing the Ganglion's origins.
The ganglion appeared to be planet conquerors with them taking over Wroth and just messed with the wrong people. My theory is that GHOST were the ones to bring the war to Earth knowing human DNA dissolves ganglions.
It isn't fair but it wouldn't be the first game that ends with loose ends taking too long(if ever) to get resolved, looking back they probably should've had it to be more self-contained, with Future Connected it made more sense to do it because at that point it was clear the series was still moving forward.
It is but people seem to be desperate to find a connection with the other two as a hope that it'll be brought back.
The game likely still costs the same to bring to Switch, it's about diminishing returns not having spare money to burn.
So? He strictly mentions XC and XC2, if that changes in the future it's still up in the air like he said right there, currently there's no connection between X and the other two.
EDIT: And got to see if any change still has X in the equation anyway.
He said each entry in the series is connected, but the largest connection seems to be between 1 and 2. Not that the only connection is between 1 and 2.
To me it still reads like he's still talking about those two, not X.
He isn't, but then brings up those two and doesn't mention X at all. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I was pretty captivated by the other fact: People cannot seem to leave Mira even if they want to. I really wanted some resolutions to what the fuck is up with Mira...a lot of world building seems to hint it's been inhabited many many times before.
Nah, he clearly is talking about the whole franchise. He states that the most obvious connection to people is XC1 and XC2 because they're happening at the same time in two different universes.
His explanation about the multiverse and all the games being "closely connected" doesn't make sense if the only connection to be made is between XC1 and XC2. Obviously he's talking about all Xenoblade games present and future, and this includes XCX.
After all, this is the guy (with help of others) who brought us Perfect Works. I can't wait to see how they'll tie them all.
not really. You could play the game on the game pad soyou could keep that as is.
there are a lot of big changes needed though, especially related to what counts as a main path quest, and reworking the whole character affinity system to make all the most interesting content more accessible
I'm still not seeing it, it's weird he left it out if that were the case even when he brought up the obvious case of XC and XC2. It feels vague at best.
Took me a while to find it because I couldn't remember where I read it, but Tetsuya Takahashi kinda hinted Xeno X was loosely connected to the original Xenoblade in some form in an interview before X was released:
Xenoblade's Director Talks Witcher 3, Zelda Wii U, And His Favorite RPGs
Acclaimed JRPG director Tetsuya Takahashi discusses his desire for harsh criticism and the influences of MMO combat.
www.gameinformer.com
Tetsuya Takahashi said:
I think what he means by "more loosely" is how Xenosaga had characters that were literally designed the same as Xenogears (Abel/Fei, Nephilim/Elly, Ramsus/Wilhelm etc), so the connections between Xenoblade X and Xenoblade 1 are even more obscure (Especially since they all take place in entirely different universes). You see references/hints to the first game all over the place, mostly through side quests and listening to Nopon lore (There's one that mentions something that sounds super similar to the Zohar/Conduit, and the ancient people who once lived on Mira losing control of it). There's also objects from Shulk's world that you find in the collectopedia (Namely a statue of the Bionis and Mechonis fighting, and the gem crafting machine), Tatsu referencing Frontier Village and "hom hom" (Mentioned not just at the end of the game, but also in the short stories found on the Japanese website (And fan translated)). The Telethia is also not native to Mira, as hinted at through the "A Fateful Choice" quest. Honestly, a lot of the world building is hidden away in the side quests, so if someone skips those they're missing out on a lot of important information.
He (Tetsuya Takahashi) even kinda said the same thing before Xeno 2 came out as well, how Xeno 2 was loosely connected to Xeno 1, but they take place at a different "time and space" or something. I tried to find that interview but haven't been able to find it so far.
At the end of the day, nobody can really say for sure I suppose. I can admit it's possible it's not connected and it's just it's own thing, but I feel there's more evidence piling up showing X is connected in some form to the other games, but I can't definitively prove it either. But nobody can really prove it isn't connected as well. For now, I think it's more fun to look for those connections than just outright dismissing the idea.
Took me a while to find it because I couldn't remember where I read it, but Tetsuya Takahashi kinda hinted Xeno X was loosely connected to the original Xenoblade in some form in an interview before X was released:
Xenoblade's Director Talks Witcher 3, Zelda Wii U, And His Favorite RPGs
Acclaimed JRPG director Tetsuya Takahashi discusses his desire for harsh criticism and the influences of MMO combat.
I think what he means by "more loosely" is how Xenosaga had characters that were literally designed the same as Xenogears (Abel/Fei, Nephilim/Elly, Ramsus/Wilhelm etc), so the connections between Xenoblade X and Xenoblade 1 are even more obscure (Especially since they all take place in entirely different universes). You see references/hints to the first game all over the place, mostly through side quests and listening to Nopon lore (There's one that mentions something that sounds super similar to the Zohar/Conduit, and the ancient people who once lived on Mira losing control of it). There's also objects from Shulk's world that you find in the collectopedia (Namely a statue of the Bionis and Mechonis fighting, and the gem crafting machine), Tatsu referencing Frontier Village and "hom hom" (Mentioned not just at the end of the game, but also in the short stories found on the Japanese website (And fan translated)).
He even kinda said the same thing before Xeno 2 came out as well, how Xeno 2 was loosely connected to Xeno 1, but they take place at a different "time and space" or something. I tried to find that interview but haven't been able to find it so far.
At the end of the day, nobody can really say for sure I suppose. I can admit it's possible it's not connected and it's just it's own thing, but I feel there's more evidence piling up showing X is connected in some form to the other games, but I can't definitively prove it either. But nobody can really prove it isn't connected as well. For now, I think it's more fun to look for those connections than just outright dismissing the idea.
It reads like he's talking to a different kind of connection in the more recent interview.
being "more loosely" connected than gears/saga doesn't fare well for any direct connection with X and 1/2, this was years ago and stuff might change though
There's a ton of potential in a follow up to Xenoblade X and I'm not just talking about the twist cliffhanger at the very end. There are so many things brought up through the sidequests and world building that present many many opportunities. Yelv and the J-Bodies + what that means for your Avatar, Elma's partner, the Ghost civilization, the Samaar Federation, Mira apparently existing in a pocket dimension, the transmissions that suggest other ark ships from Earth might have survived, Lao and the Dark Knight, Tatsu talking about the Bionis and more. It's kind of bonkers how much content is there if you do the sidequests. I think just the fact that the events on Mira exist in a greater context of this huge intergalactic war is really intriguing and I hope they follow up on the game in some way. There's so many directions they could go.
Plus, the customization focused gameplay and sidequest/exploration of X just offers something different from the linear, story focused style of the numbered games and I want to experience more of it. In my ideal world, they'd alternate between both styles. Do an X2 and then do a Xenoblade 3. To be honest, I don't really have a strong desire for the games to all come together. I don't think Elma, Shulk and Rex need to meet up and fight a common enemy outside of DLC fanservice stuff. A confirmation that the games are technically connected somehow or even a timeline would be cool but I like the cast of characters to stay in their own dimensions and timelines.
After Xenoblade 2, my theory is
Plus, the customization focused gameplay and sidequest/exploration of X just offers something different from the linear, story focused style of the numbered games and I want to experience more of it. In my ideal world, they'd alternate between both styles. Do an X2 and then do a Xenoblade 3. To be honest, I don't really have a strong desire for the games to all come together. I don't think Elma, Shulk and Rex need to meet up and fight a common enemy outside of DLC fanservice stuff. A confirmation that the games are technically connected somehow or even a timeline would be cool but I like the cast of characters to stay in their own dimensions and timelines.
There's also Telethia the Endbringer and how it came from a different dimension which is a weird thing to even mention about it when they could just say nothing and you could just say it's a reference and nothing more.
After Xenoblade 2, my theory is
when Klaus fucked with the Conduit and people got flung into different dimensions, one of those dimensions was the X dimension and those people became the Samaarians. It links up since Luxaar states the Samaarians came from another dimension at the dawn of the cosmos. The Conduit is probably related to all the dimensional abnormalities of Mira too. Stuff from Shulk's universe could just be randomly pulled into Mira. I think at the end of the day, I'd like that to be the deepest connection - connect them in that way and just leave it at that. Let them otherwise function as separate.
Yeah, it's possible. It's possible it was meant to be on it's own in the beginning, with all the references to the first game just being simple Easter eggs, and they're retconning it to be connected (Starting with Xeno 2 I guess?). I won't say it being connected is a fact, but I feel there's a lot of things pointing to that being the case. Given that Xenoblade is a relatively new series, it's hard to really say one way or another until we get more new games.
Well, Xenosaga and Xenogears were strongly connected in the way that Xenosaga was an alternate-universe prequel to Xenogears and the plan for Xenosaga, had it continued, was to remake Xenogears in this universe.Took me a while to find it because I couldn't remember where I read it, but Tetsuya Takahashi kinda hinted Xeno X was loosely connected to the original Xenoblade in some form in an interview before X was released:
Xenoblade's Director Talks Witcher 3, Zelda Wii U, And His Favorite RPGs
Acclaimed JRPG director Tetsuya Takahashi discusses his desire for harsh criticism and the influences of MMO combat.
I think what he means by "more loosely" is how Xenosaga had characters that were literally designed the same as Xenogears (Abel/Fei, Nephilim/Elly, Ramsus/Wilhelm etc), so the connections between Xenoblade X and Xenoblade 1 are even more obscure (Especially since they all take place in entirely different universes). You see references/hints to the first game all over the place, mostly through side quests and listening to Nopon lore (There's one that mentions something that sounds super similar to the Zohar/Conduit, and the ancient people who once lived on Mira losing control of it). There's also objects from Shulk's world that you find in the collectopedia (Namely a statue of the Bionis and Mechonis fighting, and the gem crafting machine), Tatsu referencing Frontier Village and "hom hom" (Mentioned not just at the end of the game, but also in the short stories found on the Japanese website (And fan translated)). The Telethia is also not native to Mira, as hinted at through the "A Fateful Choice" quest. Honestly, a lot of the world building is hidden away in the side quests, so if someone skips those they're missing out on a lot of important information.
He (Tetsuya Takahashi) even kinda said the same thing before Xeno 2 came out as well, how Xeno 2 was loosely connected to Xeno 1, but they take place at a different "time and space" or something. I tried to find that interview but haven't been able to find it so far.
At the end of the day, nobody can really say for sure I suppose. I can admit it's possible it's not connected and it's just it's own thing, but I feel there's more evidence piling up showing X is connected in some form to the other games, but I can't definitively prove it either. But nobody can really prove it isn't connected as well. For now, I think it's more fun to look for those connections than just outright dismissing the idea.
X is similarly set in an alternate universe to the numbered games, but it has less of a connection than Saga had to Gears because X and the numbered games take place simultaneously in their respective universes and they're not gonna make a sequel to X that's a remake of XC2 or something like that.
Xenogears, Xenosaga, XC1 and 2, and X are all basically parallel universes showing the same events with minor or major differences. It could be leading to the Xenoblade equivalent of Xenosaga. XC1 and 2 basically show what happened to Lost Jerusalem and tell the story from the Earth's perspective. X is an alternate universe take on the beginning of humanity's exile in space after Earth becomes lost.
What if XC3 was about humans who were in space for the thousands of years after Klaus destroyed the Earth rediscovering it?
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He does appear in the last cutscene of the game along with Elma... maybe they've been hinting at this all along lol
It's pretty easy: He is answering a question about the connection between XC1 and XC2 because the change on Alvis necklace. Also he says "each entry in the Xenoblade Chronicles series", and XCX is an entry of the XC series. It's implicitly stated. He didn't have to enumerate all the instalment in the series to make the point, but you can read between the lines.
He first makes a general statement about the whole series being closely connected (even if they're not sure how they'll show this to us in the next games) and after that, he goes in detail about the interviewer question regarding XC1 and XC2 (Alvis connection).
Like I said before, it doesn't make sense to speak about connections in the series (closely connected with each other) if there's only one (XC1 and XC2).
I suppose we'll have to wait some years to be sure... :P
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You can play the whole game on the GamePad precisely because you need to switch between TV and Off TV play to see the map in the first place. And that's the problem.
Yeah, I edited my post before you posted yours, but I mentioned the Telethia thing too. I think it's possible that...
When there was Telethia flying into the rift during the ending of Future Connected, one of those Telethia ended up on Mira. And yeah, Klaus even says many people and things were thrown into the other worlds.
Luxaar and the Ganglion mention multiple times that Mira is likely the Samaarian home world too. If the Samaarians came from another plane, and it's their home world, then Mira is in a entirely different dimension from where the White Whale originated from. This also lines with with what Professor B says, where he's never heard of a world like Mira, or even the galaxy it's part of (which you also find a hologram of, showing that Mira isn't part of the Milky Way, at the very least). The short stories also explain that Mira just suddenly "appeared" before them, which is partly how they crashed since they were just suddenly within it's gravity well. They were more or less pulled into another dimension at that point, I think.
Luxaar and the Ganglion mention multiple times that Mira is likely the Samaarian home world too. If the Samaarians came from another plane, and it's their home world, then Mira is in a entirely different dimension from where the White Whale originated from. This also lines with with what Professor B says, where he's never heard of a world like Mira, or even the galaxy it's part of (which you also find a hologram of, showing that Mira isn't part of the Milky Way, at the very least). The short stories also explain that Mira just suddenly "appeared" before them, which is partly how they crashed since they were just suddenly within it's gravity well. They were more or less pulled into another dimension at that point, I think.
Yeah. Although I think the overall events in X are still thousands of years before 1/2's present timeline (But both earth's are destroyed in the same calendar year. X is only 2 years after that while 1 and 2 are presumably thousands of years later). Of course, there could be weird time differentials happening between Mira and the other universes which Professor B kinda mentions too, so who knows. I thought it was kinda weird how the Nopon Sage had to slow time down for Elma when she visited Alrest (I know the DLC might not actually be canon, but it's still a detail the devs decided to put in), while Shulk and Fiora only needed their "spirits" or whatever to cross over.
Yeah, by simultaneous I meant since they showed us what was happening at the same time in both universes, even though for XC1 and 2 that happened thousands of years ago.
IIRC either Yelv or Chaussan's son were going to be the MC originally based off the artbook
Wouldn't they just need to make the map it's own menu then? Just press a button to bring it up and pause the game (something the game didn't do when you would switch to TV mode to see the map on the gamepad.) Visually, at least, there would be no difference.
Yeah there's also a scene where
Goetia mentions to Luxaar how they were warped into Mira (they weren't even chasing the humans at that point it seems - after all it was the Ghosts that crashed the White Whale, not the Ganglion). Plus, you have the Ma-non who were also warped to Mira and didn't come with the Ganglion like the other races - in fact there were there before the Ganglion but after the Nopon. The Conduit could be very easily linked to these dimensional portals pulling people and things into Mira.
Really? I didn't know that. I really wish I had that art book.
In the end, I like Elma being the protagonist. It kind of sounds to me that if that mystery hero that rode the skell with Elma was present, she would have taken a backseat to him.
The problem is you kinda need the map to be up at all times to keep track of a lot of stuff, so they would at a minimum need to have some kind of minimap display that the game currently does not have. And that's a problem when the HUD is already designed in a very specific way to not have one.
I mean, probably? I'm pretty sure the amount of people who played Xeno X, let alone finished it is an absolute minority. Developing a new game takes a lot of time and resources, there's probably not a lot of value for them there to invest in X's hooks over the hooks in Chronicles DE or Chronicles 2.
This gives me Nier vibes and makes me hope they port it to switch so I can give it a shot.
I played many tens of hours of XCX on Gamepad only and it was pretty quick and easy to press a button to change to map and back again. Didn't had the problem you mention.
The only change I'd do to the HUD is to make the text a bit bigger (but not too much).
What do you need to keep track of at all times on the map? I never felt like I had to constantly look at it. And there is a minimap.
