• Ever wanted an RSS feed of all your favorite gaming news sites? Go check out our new Gaming Headlines feed! Read more about it here.
  • We have made minor adjustments to how the search bar works on ResetEra. You can read about the changes here.

SilentPanda

Member
Nov 6, 2017
13,730
Earth
Boris Johnson is facing a massive parliamentary revolt over the way he is imposing Covid-19 restrictions on the British people without first consulting MPs – amid new signs that confidence in his leadership is collapsing in the Conservative party and across the country.

An extraordinary cross-party backlash against Johnson's "rule by diktat" from Downing Street was taking shape on Saturday – ahead of a key vote on Wednesday – as a new poll by Opinium for the Observer showed Labour has overtaken the Tories for the first time since Keir Starmer became leader in April.

In a sign of Tory unrest over both the extent of restrictions to counter a second wave of Covid-19 and the way parliament is being bypassed, the chair of the backbench 1922 committee, Graham Brady, is winning wider support for an amendment calling for MPs to be allowed to debate and vote upon any new measures before they are implemented.

Labour, the Scottish National party and the Liberal Democrats indicated they were seriously considering joining dozens of Tory rebels to back the Brady amendment and rein in Johnson and No 10.

Another senior Tory, the former cabinet minister Damian Green, who is backing Brady, added: "The principle of parliament having a say on important decisions that affect the lives of everyone in the country is a hugely important one that we should hold to very tightly."

The extent to which faith in Johnson is ebbing away is matched by growing admiration for the chancellor, Rishi Sunak, increasingly seen on the Tory backbenchers as more of a unifying figure for the post-Brexit era, and a potential successor to Johnson.

The Opinium poll also found that Starmer has improved perceptions of the Labour party since becoming leader. Now 40% of voters, up from 36% in July, think the party is ready to form the next government, while 42%, down from 47%, think it is not.

www.theguardian.com

Boris Johnson faces revolt over forcing through Covid measures

Amendment calling for votes on new restrictions is winning cross-party support
 

Tfritz

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,280
what are the covid measures he's imposing did he end #pubsopen and ban travel from the plague isles or
 
OP
OP
SilentPanda

SilentPanda

Member
Nov 6, 2017
13,730
Earth
what are the covid measures he's imposing did he end #pubsopen and ban travel from the plague isles or

  • Office workers are being told to work from home again if possible
  • Penalties for not wearing a mask or gathering in groups of more than six will increase to £200 on the first offence
  • From Thursday 24 September, all pubs, bars and restaurants will be restricted to table service only. Takeaways can continue
  • Also from Thursday, hospitality venues must close at 22:00 - which means shutting then, not calling for last orders (in Scotland the same curfew rule comes into force on Friday)
  • Face coverings must be worn by taxi drivers and passengers from Wednesday
  • Retail staff and customers in indoor hospitality venues will also have to wear masks from Thursday, except when seated at a table to eat or drink
  • From Monday 28 September, only 15 people will be able to attend weddings and civil partnerships, in groups of six. Funerals can still take place with up to 30 people
  • Also from 28 September, you can only play indoor adult sports in groups of less than six
  • The planned return of spectators to sports venues will now not go ahead from 1 October
Mr Johnson also said the government would provide police and local authorities in England with extra funding to enforce the regulations, with the option to draw on military support.

www.bbc.com

Coronavirus: New Covid restrictions could last six months, says Boris Johnson

Increased fines for rule breakers and limits on wedding numbers are among the new measures in England.
 

HStallion

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
62,262
I kept reading that as The Opium Poll and was wondering if that had come back into fashion lol.
 
Oct 30, 2017
3,295
So the measures that are mostly useless and under-powered for the situation, which seem to always be enacted too late, will be battered around the chamber, have attachments made to scupper them, lead to days of debates and delays, and nothing will then happen.

Yes, democracy and rule of law is sacrosanct, but if there's one thing parliament have proven in the last 5 years it's that it's COMPLETELY disfunctional.
 

PJV3

Member
Oct 25, 2017
25,676
London
it fucking cracks me up that they think Sunak is some kind of genius, that's how low they are sinking, he's been in parliament 5 years and the only thing he's known for is throwing some cash around.
 
Oct 30, 2017
3,295
Is Boris imposing more restrictions because he almost died from COVID?

It's ultra-right wing tory old boys worried about their property investments because of things like closing times for pubs, advising to work from home etc.

Take it for what it is:

- everyone hates boris, so this is an easy win
- tory grandees in the 1922 committee are basically arseholes who care little about people, do whatever their donors ask, and will kill people to save the economy/their investments (so, they're republicans basically)
- labour/libdems see this as a way to push their agendas and try to force more concessions (fair enough)

The result will, however, be no restrictions ever get passed even if health experts start the fucking sirens and red flashing lights.

it fucking cracks me up that they think Sunak is some kind of genius, that's how low they are sinking, he's been in parliament 5 years and the only thing he's known for is throwing some cash around.

They only care that Boris is cratering in the polls vs. labour, and Sunak (because he's throwing cash around) has a little public support. You really think they want a minority figure leading the party? Complete populist theatre.
 

gdt

Member
Oct 26, 2017
9,493
So wait he's losing support because he wants to enact Covid safety restrictions.


Woah
 

PJV3

Member
Oct 25, 2017
25,676
London
It's ultra-right wing tory old boys worried about their property investments because of things like closing times for pubs, advising to work from home etc.

Take it for what it is:

- everyone hates boris, so this is an easy win
- tory grandees in the 1922 committee are basically arseholes who care little about people, do whatever their donors ask, and will kill people to save the economy/their investments (so, they're republicans basically)
- labour/libdems see this as a way to push their agendas and try to force more concessions (fair enough)

The result will, however, be no restrictions ever get passed even if health experts start the fucking sirens and red flashing lights.

The government majority means they will probably get nearly everything through, the tory right will vent but labour and the libdems will support it, which will piss off the gammon folk even more win-win.
 

Syder

The Moyes are Back in Town
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
12,543
So wait he's losing support because he wants to enact Covid safety restrictions.


Woah
We are an island of Landlords

People's properties in the cities are losing value because companies don't need to rent out offices when their employees can work from home

#SavePret
 

PJV3

Member
Oct 25, 2017
25,676
London
We are an island of Landlords

People's properties in the cities are losing value because companies don't need to rent out offices when their employees can work from home

#SavePret

Yeah, sadly a lot of MPs of all parties are landlords, obviously the tories take the cake on that one though.
 
Oct 30, 2017
3,295
The government majority means they will probably get nearly everything through, the tory right will vent but labour and the libdems will support it, which will piss off the gammon folk even more win-win.

I guarantee that if this goes through, restrictions will be lifted even in the face of the upswing of infection. Labour and LibDems will support it because ideologically it is the correct thing to do, and they will hope to push through more thoughtful legislation. I'd love for that to be the case, and would support it 99.99999999% of the time.

However, the Tory party is absolutely riddled with scumbags now, and holds such a majority I suspect they will push anything that involves opening up the economy, and everything else be damned. It's who they are. This is leopard-face-eating territory. Their nature will not change.

Edit: also, just to say. Basically everything that comes out of the 1922 committee is completely heinous, so look at it through that lens. See:

 

Mutedpenguin

Member
Dec 5, 2017
1,161
The new restrictions are tinkering at most. None of the new measures will help to any great degree. Pretty sure that England will end up following Scotland by banning households from mixing within 1-2 weeks (which is what he was advised to do NOW).

He'd easily get support for tougher restrictions from the other parties. This is more about procedure .
 

Psychotext

Member
Oct 30, 2017
16,704
I love that "doing the absolute minimum to stop the virus" is the thing that has tories turning on Johnson.

What a shower of cunts.
 

PJV3

Member
Oct 25, 2017
25,676
London
I guarantee that if this goes through, restrictions will be lifted even in the face of the upswing of infection. Labour and LibDems will support it because ideologically it is the correct thing to do, and they will hope to push through more thoughtful legislation. I'd love for that to be the case, and would support it 99.99999999% of the time.

However, the Tory party is absolutely riddled with scumbags now, and holds such a majority I suspect they will push anything that involves opening up the economy, and everything else be damned. It's who they are. This is leopard-face-eating territory. Their nature will not change.

We will see, there's generally good support for strong well thought out measures in the country, Boris being absolutely out of his depth and all over the place is the problem. A lot of his backbenchers would settle down if he looked like knew what he was doing.
 
Oct 30, 2017
3,295
We will see, there's generally good support for strong well thought out measures in the country, Boris being absolutely out of his depth and all over the place is the problem. A lot of his backbenchers would settle down if he looked like knew what he was doing.

Yep you're probably right.

I just have so little faith in Tories now it manifests as seeing subplots everywhere.

If it leads to more open debate let's just hope Starmer steps it up a bit!
 

PJV3

Member
Oct 25, 2017
25,676
London
Yep you're probably right.

I just have so little faith in Tories now it manifests as seeing subplots everywhere.

If it leads to more open debate let's just hope Starmer steps it up a bit!

That's a good point it might be a tougher ride for Starmer as well if they have to be part of the debate, the Tories will go for Labour.
 

Noodle

Banned
Aug 22, 2018
3,427
So wait he's losing support because he wants to enact Covid safety restrictions.


Woah

it seems more an argument over procedure than content, though the latter isn't entirely absent. My guess is MPs want to have their "this is what I tried to do" moment for their constituents entered into the record before current restrictions are shown to be completely untenable, contradictory and ineffective.