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Jahranimo

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Oct 25, 2017
9,020
It's the best Borderlands, no surprise. Great game! Now patch the menus on the console versions, they lag like hell.
 

Deleted member 2791

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Oct 25, 2017
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"Highest selling 2K title on PC in a five-day window".
So yeah, the quote that BL3 is the fastest selling 2K title on PC general is incorrect

...how exactly are the two sentences contradicting? It's the fastest and highest selling 2K title launch aligned. And obviously it's launch aligned, no sane analyst is going to compare FW numbers to LTD and draw conclusions.
 

Spark

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Dec 6, 2017
2,540
70% digital makes more than enough sense if this game sold so much on PC, I don't think anybody bought retail for that platform. The initial EGS payout, plus the higher share per sale, plus the Steam relaunch in 6 months, I don't doubt that will be one of Gearbox's best financial decisions in the company's history.
 

Hero

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
6,794
50% more than BL2 doesn't sound much if you factor in that the target audience is at least more than 4 times that from BL2

You spouted off some similar nonsense in the recent Pitchford thread, 50% more than BL2 is massively successful if you couldn't take the time to read the bullet points Zhuge outlined in his tweet. I'm not sure how you think numbers and math works but please continue with this narrative of yours.
 

Hasney

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
18,637
For me the big news is 70% digital. Retail is dying quickly, I wonder if it hold on one more console cycle.

It better hold on until prices are fixed in certain regions. I'm not paying £60 for a game available for £40-£45 physically.

Happy to buy some new AAA releases digitally once that's sorted and wait on a sale for the ones I'd usually resell.
 

Laver

Banned
Mar 30, 2018
2,654
How would that lead to the conclusion that Borderlands 3 would have sold the same whether it was on EGS, Steam + EGS or just Steam?

What would have previously held the title of best selling 2K game on PC? Bioshock Infinite maybe? A lot of their more mainstream games aren't big on PC (NBA, WWE), or are big within their niche but not mainstream games (like Civ/Xcom).
Civ 5 sold like 10 milion copies.
 

EloKa

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Oct 25, 2017
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...how exactly are the two sentences contradicting? It's the fastest and highest selling 2K title launch aligned.
BL3 can sell X units within 5 days. Another game can sell 3X units within a year. The other game would have 3 times more sales than BL3.
Also you just added the "launch aligned" part right now which is kinda sneaky, isn't it?

You spouted off some similar nonsense in the recent Pitchford thread, 50% more than BL2 is massively successful if you couldn't take the time to read the bullet points Zhuge outlined in his tweet. I'm not sure how you think numbers and math works but please continue with this narrative of yours.
I'm referring to this. Obviously. 2K have literally stated "in a five-day window" but you do you I guess.
 

Odesu

Member
Oct 26, 2017
5,545
70% digital just shows again how utterly and completely useless UK retail charts are these days.
 

Ananasas

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Jul 11, 2018
1,743
Great game, nobody will stop me from playing a good game, it doesn't matter what platform or store the game is.
 

GhostTrick

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Oct 25, 2017
11,316
If the only argument left at this point is arguing obvious semantics, it speaks a lot about the state of the discourse against EGS.


"Obvious semantics"
Not that obvious when you read the thread. Some people seemed to think it was already the highest selling pc title for 2K. Which it factually cant be.

As for your "well it proves that people dont care", how can you count missed sales ?
That's the entire point. No, BL3 wouldn't have bombed. Now did it hurt its growth ? It's highly possible.
 

Razgriz417

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Oct 25, 2017
9,110
Nice, despite some issues and questionable decisions, I've enjoyed my time with bl3. Surprised at 70% digital tho
 

nib95

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Oct 28, 2017
18,498
Impressive.

I'm also not surprised by the digital percentage as Borderlands has always had a pretty strong PC following, and nearly all PC sales are digital, couple that with the already increasing console digital splits, and there you go.
 

Stone Ocean

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Oct 25, 2017
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If the only argument left at this point is arguing obvious semantics, it speaks a lot about the state of the discourse against EGS.
How is it semantics?

Highest selling implies it somehow outsold the PC version of GTAV in 5 days, a game that has basically never left the global top sellers on Steam for the past 4 years. That's kind of a big difference.
 

Error 52

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Nov 1, 2017
2,032
"Obvious semantics"
Not that obvious when you read the thread. Some people seemed to think it was already the highest selling pc title for 2K. Which it factually cant be.

As for your "well it proves that people dont care", how can you count missed sales ?
That's the entire point. No, BL3 wouldn't have bombed. Now did it hurt its growth ? It's highly possible.
I think long-term the problems are gonna be with DLC.

EGS is not well setup for BL-levels of DLC at all.
 

Hero

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Oct 25, 2017
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"Obvious semantics"
Not that obvious when you read the thread. Some people seemed to think it was already the highest selling pc title for 2K. Which it factually cant be.

As for your "well it proves that people dont care", how can you count missed sales ?
That's the entire point. No, BL3 wouldn't have bombed. Now did it hurt its growth ? It's highly possible.

Trying to spin BL3 success into "BuT EgS hUrT iTs GrOwTh" when the press release highlights multiple record-breaking milestones that they're clearly pleased with is pretty wild.
 

hydruxo

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Oct 25, 2017
20,441
Well deserved, it's a great game. Haven't touched any other games since it came out.
 

Village

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Oct 25, 2017
11,809
people thought that in a post destiny world this would hold little appeal

Those people were incorrect
 

--R

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How is it semantics?

Highest selling implies it somehow outsold the PC version of GTAV in 5 days, a game that has basically never left the global top sellers on Steam for the past 4 years. That's kind of a big difference.

"Highest-selling title for the label" means 2K's best selling game, not T2.
 

Vlodril

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Dec 18, 2017
280
Downplaying sales because they don't find your narrative. Why even bother? Things sell some times even if we don't like them or their methods of selling (see all of the microtransactions).
 

Deleted member 2791

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How is it semantics?

Highest selling implies it somehow outsold the PC version of GTAV in 5 days, a game that has basically never left the global top sellers on Steam for the past 4 years. That's kind of a big difference.

It doesn't counts GTAV because it's only about 2K (as in, the label) games, as per the PR:
highest-selling title for the label on PC
The previous record holder was probably either Borderlands 2 or Bioshock Infinite.
 

GhostTrick

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Oct 25, 2017
11,316
Trying to spin BL3 success into "BuT EgS hUrT iTs GrOwTh" when the press release highlights multiple record-breaking milestones that they're clearly pleased with is pretty wild.


Where did I say that it's not a success ?
I'll make it simple for you:
Your previous game sold 1 million.
Your next game being exclusive sold 2 millions. It's a success.
But if it wasn't exclusive, it could've sold 3 millions.
While it's a success, you lost in potential growth.

Also writing that way doesn't make a point. You just come across as inintelligible.
 

Stone Ocean

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Oct 25, 2017
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2K games and Rockstar games are counted separately.

They always have been.
"Highest-selling title for the label" means 2K's best selling game, not T2.
It doesn't counts GTAV because it's only about 2K (as in, the label) games, as per the PR:

The previous record holder was probably either Borderlands 2 or Bioshock Infinite.
Ok, that makes more sense.
 

Hero

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
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Where did I say that it's not a success ?
I'll make it simple for you:
Your previous game sold 1 million.
Your next game being exclusive sold 2 millions. It's a success.
But if it wasn't exclusive, it could've sold 3 millions.
While it's a success, you lost in potential growth.

Also writing that way doesn't make a point. You just come across as inintelligible.

I didn't say you didn't call it a success? I said the fact you are trying to spin these numbers and this PR into "but it could've sold more!" is hilarious.
 

noyram23

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Oct 25, 2017
9,372
Of course, if you like a game you'll most likely buy it whatever the platform, makes sense because i'm on this hobby to play not tinker around a launcher

Some might even double dip again when this drops on steam
 

Odesu

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Oct 26, 2017
5,545
Or Civilization. Didn't the last one sell 10 million+ units?

It didn't sell 5 million units as fast as Borderlands 3, thus Borderlands 3 is the fastest selling game. This is a weird and entirely useless semantic argument y'all are having here.

EDIT: I just noticed that the tweet misquotes 2Ks report, where they themselves state it's "the highest-selling title for the label on PC in a five-day window". So yeah, that tweet is, indeed, incorrect. Not 2K's report I was reading, though.
 
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GhostTrick

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Oct 25, 2017
11,316
I didn't say you didn't call it a success? I said the fact you are trying to spin these numbers and this PR into "but it could've sold more!" is hilarious.


How is that hilarious ?
Because you cant properly make a point so you resort to making fun of others in lame attempts ?
Where did I spinned any numbers ? I replied to someone saying "see it proves that it didn't hurt sales" to which I replied "well, by definition, you cant count lost sales".
You should take some fresh air, I feel you upset and tense.