Hopefully Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo do that too.
smh
Hopefully Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo do that too.
right but the publisher is the one who decides where games go and again BL3 being on EGS is a no brainer, exclusivity is the publisher thing i'm talking about and if Epic paid a bunch of money for that exclusivity i can't be angry at a developer for that. guaranteed money is great.nah, Randy has constanatly hinting at supporting the EGS on twitter, and Sergei kept making offhand remarks to the same effect about a big game.
Well, BL3 is going to need something... so maybe it will be the beta test of it all? I would be stupid for Gearbox to do something from scratch.
Also, kind of a bad look to don't have the courage to announce in front of I live audience and now we have a leak on a day flooded where the news is flooded with noise.
This news makes the reveal of the title even more interesting. There was really no reason for "Platforms and Release Date Later". That move feels like it was based around EGS and the realization that such a move wasn't something to announce at PAX to a live crowd.
A company literally being scared to announce this sort of exclusivity to a live audience (Or tell a an audience "no questions on EGS"). Paints quite a picture on the general reception EGS has garnered currently. Which makes me wonder if even a large release like BL3 is enough to make people stick with EGS outside the timed period.
It's supply and demand, they have the games and the people who want to buy them.That doesn't make people use your service in the long run. Just occasionnally. Unless they plan to moneyhat every PC title in existence.
Squaresoft had FF7 N64 tech demos. Game was feasible. The only limitation was the cutscenes taking up a significant amount of disk space, unless you really think the N64 couldn't do the overworld or battles?
people mad that they cant buy it on steam is basically it. just routine outrage. stay tuned for the next "X game is coming to EGS" thread, definitely coming soon.Man, I feel so out of the loop in regards to whats going on with PC Gaming and the EGS.
I mean the writing is on the wall at this point
Yo Randy give me some of that Epic money so I can pretend to care about the store too
people mad that they cant buy it on steam is basically it. just routine outrage. stay tuned for the next "X game is coming to EGS" thread, definitely coming soon.
people mad that they cant buy it on steam is basically it. just routine outrage. stay tuned for the next "X game is coming to EGS" thread, definitely coming soon.
Yo, damn though. No way 2K are just gonna pass up on Steam like that (assuming this is exclusive).
Yeah, but they've already paid for these games in the first place. For EGS to turn a profit, they either need customers buying games that haven't been moneyhattied or so many people buying moneyhatted games that it makes up for the upfront cost of the moneyhat. We haven't seen any indication that the latter has happened to my knowledge.It's supply and demand, they have the games and the people who want to buy them.
This just shows all these companies are fully aware people don't like Epic's strategy to promote their store, yet they continue accepting Epic's money. They don't mind the bad PR (from the customers, since the gaming media is applauding Epic and trying to deceive us this is good for everyone) at all.This news makes the reveal of the title even more interesting. There was really no reason for "Platforms and Release Date Later". That move feels like it was based around EGS and the realization that such a move wasn't something to announce at PAX to a live crowd.
A company literally being scared to announce this sort of exclusivity to a live audience (Or tell a an audience "no questions on EGS"). Paints quite a picture on the general reception EGS has garnered currently. Which makes me wonder if even a large release like BL3 is enough to make people stick with EGS outside the timed period.
Ah, so Sony did had a financial hand on the development/publishing of the game. That's not a moneyhat, if the game was ready to launch for N64 and then suddenly didnt, so that would have been a moneyhat, but that didnt happen. The game had Sony money (honey) and thats ok. But unless Epic helped develop/publish they have moneyhatted, which we dont have receipts but we can assume they didnt because almost every single one appeared on Steam before, then we should call out their bs.Discs being cheaper than cartridges was a significant factor but Sony also made Squaresoft a better overall deal.
https://www.pastemagazine.com/artic...fantasy-7-revolutionized-videogame-marke.html
Sony cut them an even better deal on manufacturing and helped publish it outside of Japan plus fronted a lot of marketing costs. Sony also significantly invested in Squaresoft as a company by buying their stocks and some other stuff around The Spirits Within movie. Not sure how your point still stands since this was mostly Sony paying Squaresoft money directly and indirectly to moneyhat FF7 off the N64.
Competition is a good thing for platforms like this anyway, even if it's the form of "stolen" exclusives. Hopefully this can inspire Steam to come bursting back with their own exclusives or innovative changes to their platform.
Yo, damn though. No way 2K are just gonna pass up on Steam like that (assuming this is exclusive).
This isn't competition and it isn't a good thing.Competition is a good thing for platforms like this anyway, even if it's the form of "stolen" exclusives. Hopefully this can inspire Steam to come bursting back with their own exclusives or innovative changes to their platform.
people mad that they cant buy it on steam is basically it. just routine outrage. stay tuned for the next "X game is coming to EGS" thread, definitely coming soon.
I do think this deal pre-dates the EGS announcement, and I do think the fact that Gearbox felt compelled to call an audible and not mention the platforms in their PAX reveal out of fear of loud booing does indicate that EGS, at the very least, has a major PR problem. Which announcing BL3 as an exclusive straight after announcing a bunch of Steam stuff will not help.This news makes the reveal of the title even more interesting. There was really no reason for "Platforms and Release Date Later". That move feels like it was based around EGS and the realization that such a move wasn't something to announce at PAX to a live crowd.
A company literally being scared to announce this sort of exclusivity to a live audience (Or tell a an audience "no questions on EGS"). Paints quite a picture on the general reception EGS has garnered currently. Which makes me wonder if even a large release like BL3 is enough to make people stick with EGS outside the timed period.
Yo let's sanction 2020 jokes but let posts like this goingpeople mad that they cant buy it on steam is basically it. just routine outrage. stay tuned for the next "X game is coming to EGS" thread, definitely coming soon.
people mad that they cant buy it on steam is basically it. just routine outrage. stay tuned for the next "X game is coming to EGS" thread, definitely coming soon.
Yo, damn though. No way 2K are just gonna pass up on Steam like that (assuming this is exclusive).
Competition is a good thing for platforms like this anyway, even if it's the form of "stolen" exclusives. Hopefully this can inspire Steam to come bursting back with their own exclusives or innovative changes to their platform.
Yeah, don't imagine they'll regret this deal.
I don't think they are worried about profits rn, they have enough money, what they want is publicity and users familiarizing themselves with another store that is not steamYeah, but they've already paid for these games in the first place. For EGS to turn a profit, they either need customers buying games that haven't been moneyhattied or so many people buying moneyhatted games that it makes up for the upfront cost of the moneyhat. We haven't seen any indication that the latter has happened to my knowledge.
There's a running theory that people who make posts like that are primarily console gamers and don't even give a shit about PC as a platform.How is steam buying out games as a result going to actually help the platform? All this will do is turn this into console wars for pc
Ah, so Sony did had a financial hand on the development/publishing of the game. That's not a moneyhat, if the game was ready to launch for N64 and then suddenly didnt, so that would have been a moneyhat, but that didnt happen. The game had Sony money (honey) and thats ok. But unless Epic helped develop/publish they have moneyhatted, which we dont have receipts but we can assume they didnt because almost every single one appeared on Steam before, then we should call out their bs.
True, but they probably won't get away with charging full price on Steam a year after release, so they'll be getting less revenue from the EGS boycotters folks that were willing to buy it day one on Steam.Them Epic pockets run deep fam
They run hella deep. People also really keep forgetting that the game will continue to sell after the exclusive period. Every sale after that point only puts them even more ahead.
There's a running theory that people who make posts like that are primarily console gamers and don't even give a shit about PC as a platform.
I wonder how big the moneyhat would have to be for them to do it, though? Epic can afford it, honestly. If they think it could be the game that breaks everything open, they'll do it. Or, maybe they've already done it.Yo, damn though. No way 2K are just gonna pass up on Steam like that (assuming this is exclusive).
This. And people keep saying that this thing against Epic Store is just a very vocal minority on gaming forums, reddit, etc... I think this feeling against Epic is much more relevant than some people think.This news makes the reveal of the title even more interesting. There was really no reason for "Platforms and Release Date Later". That move feels like it was based around EGS and the realization that such a move wasn't something to announce at PAX to a live crowd.
A company literally being scared to announce this sort of exclusivity to a live audience (Or tell a an audience "no questions on EGS"). Paints quite a picture on the general reception EGS has garnered currently. Which makes me wonder if even a large release like BL3 is enough to make people stick with EGS outside the timed period.
I was always under the impression that the only bad thing about "console wars" were the fans, the competition part of it can fuel positivity imo. It doesn't necessarily need to be more exclusives bought by Steam then fine, but I'm sure there are other improvements Steam can make that would help the consumer and even devs have a better experience. They just need a reason to implement those improvements and Epic's store is giving them that reason.How is steam buying out games as a result going to actually help the platform? All this will do is turn this into console wars for pc
It's godawful.Purchasing exclusives is the worst possible outcome. They offer a better platform already.
It really is like people who don't care /know about PC gaming pop up in every thread with the same easily debunkable bs.
But even then, the PS was a damn fine console. It had the hottest shit in consumer tech. The EGS isnt. It barely has a search bar.I think there are degrees of moneyhatting and the situation isn't entirely foreign if you compare back then to today.
Sony made it extremely lucrative for third parties like Squaresoft and Enix to defect to their platform, and that's exactly what Epic is doing today with third parties releasing games on Epic Game Store instead of Steam. They entice developers with a better split plus marketing and/or upfront cash or whatever else they're offering.
I was talking long term though. Familiar or not, Epic is going to want a return on their investment in the store at some point and that investment has to come in the form of people voluntarily buying games from there.I don't think they are worried about profits rn, they have enough money, what they want is publicity and users familiarizing themselves with another store that is not steam
A company literally being scared to announce this sort of exclusivity to a live audience (Or tell a an audience "no questions on EGS"). Paints quite a picture on the general reception EGS has garnered currently. Which makes me wonder if even a large release like BL3 is enough to make people stick with EGS outside the timed period.
This. And people keep saying that this thing against Epic Store is just a very vocal minority on gaming forums, reddit, etc... I think this feeling against Epic is much more relevant than some people think.
Good news then, Steam's constantly making improvements and has been before EGS was even a thing.I was always under the impression that the only bad thing about "console wars" were the fans, the competition part of it can fuel positivity imo. It doesn't necessarily need to be more exclusives bought by Steam then fine, but I'm sure there are other improvements Steam can make that would help the consumer and even devs have a better experience. They just need a reason to implement those improvements and Epic's store is giving them that reason.
Maybe we can narrow it down further to a single console..Thing is I play on consoles as well and like did everyone forget what happened with Rise of the Tomb raider? Like this is literally the same shit