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Borderlands 3 is coming to the Epic Games Store (Exclusivity Unknown) [Read Staff Post]
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right but the publisher is the one who decides where games go and again BL3 being on EGS is a no brainer, exclusivity is the publisher thing i'm talking about and if Epic paid a bunch of money for that exclusivity i can't be angry at a developer for that. guaranteed money is great.
IIRC during the panel they mentioned publishing Fortnite's retail release for Epic and got booed pretty hard. So its not a shock if they pulled the EGS announcement to avoid backlash.
It's supply and demand, they have the games and the people who want to buy them.
That's not even close to FF7. There's been an interview already posted as to why Square went to PS. Music, Pre Rendered Backgrounds, FMVs are all contributing factors. Cost of the cartridges will be another.
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people mad that they cant buy it on steam is basically it. just routine outrage. stay tuned for the next "X game is coming to EGS" thread, definitely coming soon.
Imagine being happy that your game will sell less and won't be buyable in china.
Gotta love how even after all this time we still got people downplaying genuine issues as routine outrage.
Yo, damn though. No way 2K are just gonna pass up on Steam like that (assuming this is exclusive).
Yeah, but they've already paid for these games in the first place. For EGS to turn a profit, they either need customers buying games that haven't been moneyhattied or so many people buying moneyhatted games that it makes up for the upfront cost of the moneyhat. We haven't seen any indication that the latter has happened to my knowledge.
This just shows all these companies are fully aware people don't like Epic's strategy to promote their store, yet they continue accepting Epic's money. They don't mind the bad PR (from the customers, since the gaming media is applauding Epic and trying to deceive us this is good for everyone) at all.
Also, Pitchford and Co. are cowards by not announcing it live. Guess they don't want another mess like when Blizzard announced Diablo Inmortal.
Ah, so Sony did had a financial hand on the development/publishing of the game. That's not a moneyhat, if the game was ready to launch for N64 and then suddenly didnt, so that would have been a moneyhat, but that didnt happen. The game had Sony money (honey) and thats ok. But unless Epic helped develop/publish they have moneyhatted, which we dont have receipts but we can assume they didnt because almost every single one appeared on Steam before, then we should call out their bs.
There is nothing good to be gained in an exclusive bidding war for the customer beyond limiting even more games to an even smaller selection of platforms.
I do think this deal pre-dates the EGS announcement, and I do think the fact that Gearbox felt compelled to call an audible and not mention the platforms in their PAX reveal out of fear of loud booing does indicate that EGS, at the very least, has a major PR problem. Which announcing BL3 as an exclusive straight after announcing a bunch of Steam stuff will not help.
Well it's up to them if they want my business. I can play something else.
If Borderlands 3 had been a must have title, then maybe I would have sucked up to this and just bought it.
But it's not. It's a maybe title, and I'm not jumping through hoops for maybe titles, when I don't have time and energy for all of them.
For game like this, I expect devs and publishers to work for my interest in it. But this is them moving the title further away from me instead.
If Borderlands 3 had been a must have title, then maybe I would have sucked up to this and just bought it.
But it's not. It's a maybe title, and I'm not jumping through hoops for maybe titles, when I don't have time and energy for all of them.
For game like this, I expect devs and publishers to work for my interest in it. But this is them moving the title further away from me instead.
This really is no surprise because Randy Pitchford was cheerleading for CliffyB hard when Epic sued Silicon Knights and won on Twitter.
Them Epic pockets run deep fam
They run hella deep. People also really keep forgetting that the game will continue to sell after the exclusive period. Every sale after that point only puts them even more ahead.
Purchasing exclusives is the worst possible outcome. They offer a better platform already.
It really is like people who don't care /know about PC gaming pop up in every thread with the same easily debunkable bs.
Yeah, don't imagine they'll regret this deal.
They're not going to lose the 10M steam users completely and Epic's payout mixed with lower royalties should make them quite a lot.
Presumably they'll relaunch the game next year on PS5, XB2, and Steam once the deal runs up.
I don't think they are worried about profits rn, they have enough money, what they want is publicity and users familiarizing themselves with another store that is not steam
There's a running theory that people who make posts like that are primarily console gamers and don't even give a shit about PC as a platform.
I think there are degrees of moneyhatting and the situation isn't entirely foreign if you compare back then to today.
Sony made it extremely lucrative for third parties like Squaresoft and Enix to defect to their platform, and that's exactly what Epic is doing today with third parties releasing games on Epic Game Store instead of Steam. They entice developers with a better split plus marketing and/or upfront cash or whatever else they're offering.
True, but they probably won't get away with charging full price on Steam a year after release, so they'll be getting less revenue from the EGS boycotters folks that were willing to buy it day one on Steam.
Thing is I play on consoles as well and like did everyone forget what happened with Rise of the Tomb raider? Like this is literally the same shit
I wonder how big the moneyhat would have to be for them to do it, though? Epic can afford it, honestly. If they think it could be the game that breaks everything open, they'll do it. Or, maybe they've already done it.
This. And people keep saying that this thing against Epic Store is just a very vocal minority on gaming forums, reddit, etc... I think this feeling against Epic is much more relevant than some people think.
I was always under the impression that the only bad thing about "console wars" were the fans, the competition part of it can fuel positivity imo. It doesn't necessarily need to be more exclusives bought by Steam then fine, but I'm sure there are other improvements Steam can make that would help the consumer and even devs have a better experience. They just need a reason to implement those improvements and Epic's store is giving them that reason.
But even then, the PS was a damn fine console. It had the hottest shit in consumer tech. The EGS isnt. It barely has a search bar.
I was talking long term though. Familiar or not, Epic is going to want a return on their investment in the store at some point and that investment has to come in the form of people voluntarily buying games from there.
Reality of the situation is that Epic store is here to stay.
It ain;t going anywhere. I thought maybe in the beginning, Epic would try it out for a bit, and see it not really going anywhere, and then quietly bounce.
But yeah, Borderlands 3 would be a HUGE fucking get, specifically exclusive.
I think this is the first time Steam has a real competitor, not in features, but just in terms mindshare.
I wonder what they are gonna do with RDR2.
Imagine RDR2 is exclusive to Epic......
Ohhhh man.
It ain;t going anywhere. I thought maybe in the beginning, Epic would try it out for a bit, and see it not really going anywhere, and then quietly bounce.
But yeah, Borderlands 3 would be a HUGE fucking get, specifically exclusive.
I think this is the first time Steam has a real competitor, not in features, but just in terms mindshare.
I wonder what they are gonna do with RDR2.
Imagine RDR2 is exclusive to Epic......
Ohhhh man.
Everyone will have a breaking point. Everyone.
That one game that'll make even the staunchest anti-EGS gamer turn heel.
I've zero interest in the EGS and I've already seen a number of my most anticipated titles of the year go exclusive to them (Rebel Galaxy Outlaw, Outer Worlds, etc.). It's not enough to make me budge, but I can see a world where I might. Right now the only title I could think of would be a Paradox grand-strat release on EGS. But I don't even think I could get behind that as those titles are GaaS with years upon years of DLC support.
Still, I'm struggling to think of how these moves could win over the anti-EGS crowd long-term anyway. Epic has already pissed off so many with their anti-consumer moves that it feels like they've poisoned the well for large swaths of the PC community. Doesn't mean some could, and likely would, break for that one game they just can't resist. But I fail to see the retention scenario outside of that.
Like I'm a huge Sims fan. Have been since day one. So when EA announced Sims 4 as Origin exclusive, I just sucked it up and installed EA's launcher. No regrets.
But you know what? Ask me how many Origin titles I've purchased in the last 5 years. Outside of Sims 4 DLC that answer would be zero. So Origin is essentially my Sims launcher. Hell, and I don't even have any beef with them. I just prefer to game in Steam's ecosystem.
So if EGS ever lures me with that one game that'll have nothing to do with keeping me in the system in the future. I'll simply nab that one title, play it and enjoy the rest of my gaming on PC elsewhere.
If it was a "vocal minority" the gaming press wouldn't be dancing around and making articles here and there about people complaining "over nothing" indeed.
Good news then, Steam's constantly making improvements and has been before EGS was even a thing.
There, we as consumers now have zero reason for EGS to exist.
Maybe we can narrow it down further to a single console..
Indeed, that was bullshit, and this is bullshit.
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