That doesn't make people use your service in the long run. Just occasionnally. Unless they plan to moneyhat every PC title in existence.
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Borderlands 3 is coming to the Epic Games Store (Exclusivity Unknown) [Read Staff Post]
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That doesn't make people use your service in the long run. Just occasionnally. Unless they plan to moneyhat every PC title in existence.
I've been expecting a EGS announcement for awhile. I think a lot of us have based on Pitchford tweets.
Counter point, why would people switch to EGS by being forced onto the platform. They buy Borderlands 3 and nothing else on EGS, what did Epic really accomplish. They can't money hat every game and if Epic want to succeed long term they need users to willingly buy from their store.
Counter point, why would people switch to EGS by being forced onto the platform. They buy Borderlands 3 and nothing else on EGS, what did Epic really accomplish. They can't money hat every game and if Epic want to succeed long term they need users to willingly buy from their store.
While my personal feelings towards the game is similar, still I'd see it as a harmful move towards consumers.
I think there's games that are on both, Bloodlines 2 as one recent example. Though I guess that situation still can change, but I doubt it. And definitely hope it wont.
Better prices, better features, some kind of loyalty program, developing games, funding games from ground up instead of moneyhatting exclusivity. Or just gaining good-will from gamers, free games (which they do) and helping games formerly missing on PC to the platform (They've maybe done this, I'm not sure). But how Epic has been doing business has brought them bad rap instead.
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Seems weird that they would talk up partnering with Steam for their publishing stuff during their PAX show but make this an exclusive to EGS.
Fortnite. Fortnite continues to generate massive quantities of money for Epic, probably far more than Steam as a whole generates for Valve. Even if Valve does decide to fight fire with fire, I don't think they could compete with Epic.
Just to remember what Take2 CEO said 2 months ago
Take-Two CEO on Epic Store: "Competition is a good thing"
But they're "better placed to be where the consumer is, rather than indicating where they need to be"
Take-Two CEO on Epic Store: "Competition is a good thing"
But they're "better placed to be where the consumer is, rather than indicating where they need to be"
Totally expected due to Randy's tweets and refusal to confirm platforms earlier. They probably wouldn't want backslash in front of audience.
2K: (about Epic exclusivity) "We need to be where customers are"
Epic: 💰💰
2K: "Well... maybe not then..."
lol. If you account cd key resellers and/or boxed copies, it will be more exepensive, because you can get for around 35-40€ preorders.
Safe to assume they did get all Ubisoft games.
Yeah no way it sells that much on EGS. Even free games got just 4.5m downloads.
Epic Matchmaking is still Q4 release, this seemingly Q3 game. Probably not?
2K: (about Epic exclusivity) "We need to be where customers are"
Epic: 💰💰
2K: "Well... maybe not then..."
lol. If you account cd key resellers and/or boxed copies, it will be more exepensive, because you can get for around 35-40€ preorders.
Safe to assume they did get all Ubisoft games.
Yeah no way it sells that much on EGS. Even free games got just 4.5m downloads.
Epic Matchmaking is still Q4 release, this seemingly Q3 game. Probably not?
Doesn't seem that weird to me after the past 3 months, publishers are doing this kind of shit moves to get that fortnite money.
Because those posts aren't being actioned.
On the flipside, when a longtime PC-centric poster who is tired of being denigrated as a lunatic Steam fanboi finally loses their cool, they catch bans.
it appears you are posting revisionist history
"At that time, Square was really close to Nintendo — we were basically like a second party for them. So when their new system was in development, we gave them lots of advice, like, "You're going to need a CD-ROM drive for it," "You don't have enough bandwidth to do what we're trying to do," and, "With what you have now, we're not going to be able to make an RPG." We gave them lots of advice. But [Nintendo president] Yamauchi-san at Nintendo basically refused to listen to any of it. And that's when Sakaguchi-san and the management team at Square decided, "OK, we're going to go with Sony now."
From Polygons interview with members of the FF7 team
https://www.polygon.com/a/final-fantasy-7
My thoughts exactly. This is a big one though gonna suck not playing it at launch.
This.
We don't know if this is 100% legit, part of an elaborate trick or what.
Why would anyone switch to EGS exclusively when the PC is an open platform?
I understand some of the pushback against the EGS, but I find the majority of the discussion around Epic's exclusivity deals to be tiresome and annoying at best.
Publishers having a better cut doesn't mean much if the volume drops from people not willing to use a shitty launcher. Hence, Bethesda coming back to Steam.
People are upset because starting a bidding for exclusives doesn't help consumers in the slightest and can't effectively be competed against without doing the same thing.
At first, Counter-strike was a modification for half-life and was available for free. Valve then bought it, put a price on it, and enforced Steam. People were truly mad.
Discs being cheaper than cartridges was a significant factor but Sony also made Squaresoft a better overall deal.
https://www.pastemagazine.com/artic...fantasy-7-revolutionized-videogame-marke.html
Sony cut them an even better deal on manufacturing and helped publish it outside of Japan plus fronted a lot of marketing costs. Sony also significantly invested in Squaresoft as a company by buying their stocks and some other stuff around The Spirits Within movie. Not sure how your point still stands since this was mostly Sony paying Squaresoft money directly and indirectly to moneyhat FF7 off the N64.
The main games have all used Unreal engine. BL3 will be using Unreal Engine 4.
We all knew it would be coming to EGS, just hope for steam users they can also get it there. would be a huge amount of money for Epic to spend to get BL3 as an exclusive but ultimately this feels like a 2K decision more than a gearbox one if it were to be exclusive. maybe its just for pre-order bonuses. we'll find out on wednesday
That's combining all platforms m8. I think Steam sales are at 5m.
nah, Randy has constanatly hinting at supporting the EGS on twitter, and Sergei kept making offhand remarks to the same effect about a big game.
Well they already had Steam before that since they had to use it to play CS 1.6 :P
I mean the writing is on the wall at this point
Yo Randy give me some of that Epic money so I can pretend to care about the store too
To be more specific in context: Sony did so well with the PS1 because Nintendo was literally behaving the way that the gaslighters accuse Valve of acting (which Valve isn't): Taking an excessive cut, not innovating, and picking Winners and Losers - Sony didn't need to moneyhat anything when Nintendo was being actively hostile to developers and Sega was taking the gold medal at Shitting The Bed with the Saturn.
Such is... Not the case with Steam and GOG.
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Steam sales are 11 million
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018...se-player-count-for-thousands-of-games/?amp=1
Squaresoft had FF7 N64 tech demos. Game was feasible. The only limitation was the cutscenes taking up a significant amount of disk space, unless you really think the N64 couldn't do the overworld or battles?
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Competition is a good thing for platforms like this anyway, even if it's the form of "stolen" exclusives. Hopefully this can inspire Steam to come bursting back with their own exclusives or innovative changes to their platform.
Not even Epic can do their own cut, they transfer that money to the consumers.
This. It's very unlikely that Borderlands 3 will release on Steam this year.
Please not EGS exclusive.
I want to play that game but I will never install this store on my computer. I will have to forget this game exists if it's exclusive. Please not exclusive :-(
I want to play that game but I will never install this store on my computer. I will have to forget this game exists if it's exclusive. Please not exclusive :-(
uh Gearbox had to siphon off money from side jobs to fund BL2, they 100% do not have the money to self-developer and self-publisher their namesake franchise.
How is steam buying out games as a result going to actually help the platform? All this will do is turn this into console wars for pc
Steam buying their own exclusives is a shitty thing and should not be encouraged. We don't need a launcher bidding war on PC.
This news makes the reveal of the title even more interesting. There was really no reason for "Platforms and Release Date Later". That move feels like it was based around EGS and the realization that such a move wasn't something to announce at PAX to a live crowd.
A company literally being scared to announce this sort of exclusivity to a live audience (Or tell a an audience "no questions on EGS"). Paints quite a picture on the general reception EGS has garnered currently. Which makes me wonder if even a large release like BL3 is enough to make people stick with EGS outside the timed period.
A company literally being scared to announce this sort of exclusivity to a live audience (Or tell a an audience "no questions on EGS"). Paints quite a picture on the general reception EGS has garnered currently. Which makes me wonder if even a large release like BL3 is enough to make people stick with EGS outside the timed period.
My guess is that they don't have the person power or infrastructure to properly advertise, manufacture, and distribute a retail AAA title and even if they did, they might not have the cash on hand to fully fund development themselves. They need to keep the lights on while working on BL3 and it's not like Gearbox has been putting out hits recently.
Well, BL3 is going to need something... so maybe it will be the beta test of it all? I would be stupid for Gearbox to do something from scratch.
Also, kind of a bad look to don't have the courage to announce in front of I live audience and now we have a leak on a day where the news is flooded with noise.
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