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Borderlands 3 is coming to the Epic Games Store (Exclusivity Unknown) [Read Staff Post]
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I was so scared I was going to regret my Xbox One X purchase after years of PC gaming, but then Epic came along and is slowly ruining what I loved about modern PC gaming (that with Steam and Big Picture it was almost a consolelike experience) just at the right time for me personally.
By making a better service. Offering better prices. Like for exemple, you buy Borderlands 3 on EGS, you get the season pass or the 3 games before. Or have stuff Steam doesn't do like reselling games or renting games.
wait hold on... Steam was the first one in the beginning, they had no competition
also it was the only way to play HL2 and CSS
otherwise people wouldn't have downloaded Steam either if not for those two games
Ngl, I'm gutted that this may be true as I was looking forward to playing it on PC.
Not like this though. I'm really hoping it isn't the case but it's extremely likely.
This year is fucking terrible as far as PC is concerned no thanks to this shit.
Not like this though. I'm really hoping it isn't the case but it's extremely likely.
This year is fucking terrible as far as PC is concerned no thanks to this shit.
Why would anyone switch to EGS for exclusives?
If your platform is shit and only has exclusive games going for it, then people will buy the occasional exclusive and ignore the rest of your platform.
Sony didnt succeed when they released the original PlayStation by moneyhatting all the games, they did it by delivering a desirable product that made sense for both consumers and developers. So no, throwing money to limit the release of a game on other platforms isnt the only way
GOG has improved their store without moneyhatting developers for exclusives. So no, this isn't valid. And with all the money Epic receives with Fortnite, they can at least have a competent store and launcher with--a shopping cart.
Massive. I think BL2 sold around 10 million on PC alone. This deal will test some people's resolve it it does happen.
It'll be interesting if it's exclusive since this will be by far the biggest title yet. Can't be cheap considering 2 had 11+ million players on steam.
Good for Gearbox, that should mean they will be keeping a bigger piece of the pie. I love that we are finally seeing real competition for Valve.
It's not like you won't be able to use steam and big picture mode still, just add it as an external game. It's what I basically do for all UBI games. Seamless experience still.
It's not like you won't be able to use steam and big picture mode still, just add it as an external game. It's what I basically do for all UBI games. Seamless experience still.
There's a huge difference, though. Steam was pioneering that market at the time. Competition sprung up and that's fine. Origin and Uplay publishing games made by the companies who run the respective platform is OK. I don't have an issue with that. I do have an issue with Epic and their money dick going up to third party companies, offering a boat load of money to force users onto a platform to play those games. I don't have an issue with a game being on multiple platforms, and, outside of Valve titles, a lot of games available on that service are available elsewhere.
How is it that there have been a ridiculous amount of threads about this subject and we still have people shitposting "lmao it's just another launcher, get over yourselves"
If Epic is getting the marketing, nobody is going to care. The issue is whether or not Borderlands 3 will be exclusive to Epic's store and launcher, which is so barebones that it doesn't even have a shopping cart....much less the features that PC gamers have more or less come to expect from gaming on PC, as well as the lower prices for games.
What does the word "compete" mean on this board? Epic is buying exclusives so they don't have to compete. Nothing about what they're doing suggests anyone there wants to compete. They want to force people onto their platform, and they could give a fuck about actually demonstrating why they're better than the competition.
Try launching a store and client that actually have the bare minimum of features. Maybe have better sales, cut deals with devs to allow generation of third party keys, a hub for mods, friends lists and achievements, or...I dunno...making their own games instead of buying everyone else's exclusives.
One idea that could have put them far and away higher than everyone else is getting a streaming app going better than any of the other gaming competitors right now. But none of these things are going to be possible in the long run for them because that 12% cut they take can't sustain the sorts of things that Valve does with their 20-30%. Epic will either be bare for good or will be passing on these costs on to developers or consumers in some way, shape, or form at some point.
If Epic is getting the marketing, nobody is going to care. The issue is whether or not Borderlands 3 will be exclusive to Epic's store and launcher, which is so barebones that it doesn't even have a shopping cart....much less the features that PC gamers have more or less come to expect from gaming on PC, as well as the lower prices for games.
What does the word "compete" mean on this board? Epic is buying exclusives so they don't have to compete. Nothing about what they're doing suggests anyone there wants to compete. They want to force people onto their platform, and they could give a fuck about actually demonstrating why they're better than the competition.
Try launching a store and client that actually have the bare minimum of features. Maybe have better sales, cut deals with devs to allow generation of third party keys, a hub for mods, friends lists and achievements, or...I dunno...making their own games instead of buying everyone else's exclusives.
One idea that could have put them far and away higher than everyone else is getting a streaming app going better than any of the other gaming competitors right now. But none of these things are going to be possible in the long run for them because that 12% cut they take can't sustain the sorts of things that Valve does with their 20-30%. Epic will either be bare for good or will be passing on these costs on to developers or consumers in some way, shape, or form at some point.
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Just to put things into perspective. Borderlands 2 on steam is still in the top 50 most played titles on steam, daily.
They could offer better day 1 deals due to their lesser cut. Plenty of people go where the deals are.
If EGS had features that made their service worth while, that would certainly entice people to use it. Right now, EGS lacks a lot of basic features for any sort of storefront/launcher. I could understand negotiating exclusive deals from a business perspective once EGS was more fleshed out to get people to try it (although as a consumer I strongly dislike exclusive deals), but with so many features lacking right now most anyone will use it for is for EGS exclusive games and little else.
100% true....that being said, I bought The Division 2 straight from Ubisoft. Yup.
What is this revisionist history? Sony went directly to Squaresoft and made some lucrative deal for FF7 to appear exclusively on PSX.
Yup. Mentioned this in another thread but if this really is an EGS exclusive, I think 2K are cool with the console sales carrying them until the inevitable Steam launch one year later.
Borderlands 2 has sold over 18 million copies, after all.
Weird that I've done this with every EGS game so far without issue. So his ass seems to be very smart and correct.
This is the one that will get me. By this point EGS should have cloud saves (according to their roadmap). Would love to see cross-play too especially for a PvE co-op shooter but that may still be a pipe dream at this point.
They know, they're just not willing to understand. Better to label the ones who have a problem with this as crazy Steam fanatics than actually listen.
Lmfao, this would've happened had they announced it on stage, good move Gearbox.
(It's not).
They need that extra 18% so they dont need to steal millions from another publisher to fund the game this time don't you know?
Developers at Gearbox: "Tell the fans how much they mean to us. Tell them we need their help. Tell them to support us so that we don't go out of business. And whatever you do, do not scream the words 'Epic Games Store' at the top of your lungs."
Marketing people at Gearbox/2K: "We're the conductors of the Epic Games Store train!"
Marketing people at Gearbox/2K: "We're the conductors of the Epic Games Store train!"
I've been on steam for over a decade. I have Uplay, Origin, etc. Why is this such a big deal. Steam has the cash to just match?
No one can explain why publishers should take less cash.
There are many ways to accomplish the same goal. Epic isn't interested in being GOG, they want to be Steam. They want a huge chunk of the pie. This method is extremely valid to draw people to your platform. The upgrades will come.
Source? IIRC Square couldnt get the game running on the N64 so they switched to PS.
But whatever, my point still stands.
What? No. Unless I'm wrong (and someone correct me if that' s so), Square developed the game for the PSX because the N64 couldn't handle it. Also cartridges influenced their decision.
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