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Metroidvania

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Oct 25, 2017
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I had always thought that when Borderlands 3 came out, you would be able to play as all the previous vault hunters from the prior three BL games--1, 2, and the Pre-Sequel(though, I guess certain events from BL2 would make that hard). That would make for 16 classes, plus whatever else BL3 would introduce, which would potentially make for a 20-23 character roster in this first person loot shooter.

I had always thought Battleborn was something of a beta for a true BL3, should it have a large cast. If we're really getting just four playable vault hunters like the other three games, then I'd think that'd a little bit disappointing. Between the descriptions of the four, I'd probably play as the Siren, Hunter and Assassin class the most.

Yeah, this is kind of where I'm at - I loved BL1 and 2 (didn't dive as deep into TPS), but I enjoyed playing as those characters - I get balancing could be a huge mess, but it feels a waste to have them be relegated to story beats - BL2 suffered some (IMO) from that.

The new melee siren sounds fun (although Maya and Lilith both had semi-viable melee builds, Maya moreso than Lilith), but I'd want to see them expand the docket of possibilities given that it's been so long since 2 and TPS.
 

Pancoar

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
1,551
Always liked playing the Sirens. Never liked melee in Borderlands. Those characters/classes are pretty disappointing to be honest and I absolutely loved BL1 + 2.

Would have loved to have played as Lilith again, or had the characters from TFTBL be playable.
 

jakomocha

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Oct 29, 2017
2,573
California
I really hope they do Tales from the Borderlands justice. It is by far my favorite Borderlands game (I say that as someone who loved BL2 and poured 80+ hours into it). The fact that it'll never get a sequel is a crime :( Gimme some Loader Bot
 
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The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
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I really hope they do Tales from the Borderlands justice. It is by far my favorite Borderlands game (I say that as someone who loved BL2 and poured 80+ hours into it). The fact that it'll never get a sequel is a crime :( Gimme some Loader Bot

Randy has mentioned that if required they will adjust the events of Tales from the Borderlands. Take from that what you want.
 

Hero Prinny

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Oct 25, 2017
3,189
Siren being melee focused is lame. Played as a Siren the last two games and planned to do that for this one too but going by those descriptions I think I'll go the mech one or the pet user.
 

Morrigan

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Oct 24, 2017
34,317
Unpopular opinion but I wouldn't mind some form of level-scaling (maybe optional/toggle). 'Cause if you do side-quests, you're always goddam overlevelled for the main story and that was annoying.
 

Village

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Oct 25, 2017
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Unpopular opinion but I wouldn't mind some form of level-scaling (maybe optional/toggle). 'Cause if you do side-quests, you're always goddam overlevelled for the main story and that was annoying.

Did you play ultimate Vault hunter mode in 2 and the presequel, that's what that was. And it got super hard, you litterally couldn't invite people to high level because even like 1 or two level scaling would kill you and the mode was sorta built for co-op. Then there were the OP levels after that
 

VPplaya

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Nov 20, 2018
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It seems sort of bizarre that they kept the whole soldier/siren/assassin/hunter class dynamic again. Still hyped for the game but still, try something new
 
Apr 8, 2018
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Very interesting info. Was not aware we had that much leaked info for BL3. Also really curious to see what that "DLC" for BL2 and the Pre-Sequel ends up being.

I wonder what the price of that BL1 GOTY edition will be. I've been itching for some BL recently and it's been awhile since I played the first. Can't be no more than $40 right?
 

Rodney McKay

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Oct 26, 2017
12,189
Hadn't known about all these rumors, they sound great though!

I'd love a Borderlands 1 remaster especially. A bit bummed about it only being rumored to be XB1/PS4/PC (I'd kill for it on Switch), but I'd get it no matter what.
Siren being melee focused is lame. Played as a Siren the last two games and planned to do that for this one too but going by those descriptions I think I'll go the mech one or the pet user.
Yeah, melee focused characters aren't my favorite in Borderlands, a game where one of its biggest feature is its bagillion guns.

Maybe if they added melee weapons as loot pickups it would be different, but until then I just don't have much fun with them.
 
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Van Bur3n

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Oct 27, 2017
26,089
Siren and melee-focused? My two favorite playstyles in Borderlands combined into one? And she is the only one the image cut out? COME ON.

Oh god, that Hunter dude looks amazing.

OH MY GOD TANNIS WAS THE BAD GUY ALL ALONG AND WAS PLAYING DUMB.

OH MY GOD I WANT BORDERLANDS 3#@JU@#JUF@JF@
 
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DanteMenethil

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Oct 25, 2017
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I hope they'll take a bit of inspiration from the new looter shooters that appeared since Borderlands 2. Notably I'd like more group content like raids or something.
 

Van Bur3n

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Oct 27, 2017
26,089
I hope they'll take a bit of inspiration from the new looter shooters that appeared since Borderlands 2. Notably I'd like more group content like raids or something.

There were raids in BL2. Giant boss fights designed for a full group. Multiple ones with DLC included. Some of the harder horde modes in the DLC practically needed a group to survive as well.
 

Trisc

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Oct 27, 2017
6,485
Technically all of D1's raids could be soloed as well, but I see what you're saying.
D1's Raids are so much more complicated than Borderlands' alleged "Raid Boss" that it's not even funny. To solo the Vault of Glass is next to impossible unless you're one of the best Destiny players, period, and even then, Atheon isn't beatable alone (you need at least three people). Crota's End is far more doable solo thanks to the fact that it's a badly designed Raid (more closely resembling The Shattered Throne dungeon from D2 Forsaken), but it still requires a lot of cheesing to get through (such as the sword skip, which to my knowledge is no longer possible, rendering CE impossible to solo). The Taken King isn't possible to solo, given how many of the encounters are designed, and while the final boss of Wrath of the Machine is beatable alone, most of the encounters in that Raid are not.

Borderlands takes a regular enemy, increases its size by 200%, gives it a ludicrous amount of health, and calls it a "Raid Boss". There's so little in the way of actual mechanics with any of these encounters. Dragon Keep and the vanilla "Raid Boss" from Pre-Sequel are about as involved as you can get within the confines of the game's mechanics, and it still amounts to little more than platforming to avoid attacks.
Uh I thought those were soloable, guess not.
They are soloable, and it's incredibly easy to do, especially if you're a Gunzerker or Psycho, but none of the characters are particularly bad at soloing "Raid Bosses". It's just that those two in particular are really well-suited to it.
 

Jam

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Oct 25, 2017
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Did someone say a new Brothers in Arms?!

That franchise has a lot of potential.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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There is a persistent rumor that at least one TPS DLC was in production and was canned after TPS underperformed and 2K Australia got killed. This is supposed to be one of the unreleased DLCs.
 

Yabberwocky

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Oct 27, 2017
3,256
I need my Borderlands fix so bad. More BL2 DLC would be amazing, along with TPS. It'd be great if we could transfer previous generation game saves for the Borderlands: GOTY Edition, like with the Handsome Collection.

Tannis being a villain for BL3 would also be pretty amazing. Colleen Clinkenbeard did such a great job voicing her.

There is a persistent rumor that at least one TPS DLC was in production and was canned after TPS underperformed and 2K Australia got killed. This is supposed to be one of the unreleased DLCs.

That would be fantastic, I was really disappointed when the DLC was cancelled. 'Luxy's Space Adventure?'
 

hydruxo

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Oct 25, 2017
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Crazy that BL2 came out in 2012. I was still in college back then. Can't wait for 3, I missed Borderlands so much.
 

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Oct 27, 2017
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I really hope there's a 'USB stick with porn on it' easter egg.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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There is a persistent rumor that at least one TPS DLC was in production and was canned after TPS underperformed and 2K Australia got killed. This is supposed to be one of the unreleased DLCs.

Yeah Luxy's Space Adventure. It had some sick concept art and a new Raid Boss

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Dr. Caroll

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Oct 27, 2017
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There is a persistent rumor that at least one TPS DLC was in production and was canned after TPS underperformed and 2K Australia got killed. This is supposed to be one of the unreleased DLCs.
I've always heard that 2K Australia was killed not because of any issues with the game or its sales, but because 2K didn't like having to pay Australian wages and wanted to move game development to cheaper-slash-closer regions. It was essentially the death knell for Australian AAA, frustratingly.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I don't think we're gonna see Borderlands 3 this year but I'd looooooooove to be wrong.

Man Borderlands 2 and The Presequel were great. First one was great too, but not as good as 2 for me.
 

BlueStarEXSF

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Dec 3, 2018
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Woah dlc for borderlands 2? I'd be down for that as it justifies my purchase of the pc version. I'm also cautiously hyped for borderlands 3 as those leaked details sound awesome but I'm scared of the possibility that the game gets filled with MTX and paid lootboxes.
 
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The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
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I don't think we're gonna see Borderlands 3 this year but I'd looooooooove to be wrong.

Man Borderlands 2 and The Presequel were great. First one was great too, but not as good as 2 for me.

It's already had at least 1 delay. 4 years of dev time. Is targeting this gen and is on the investor reports as coming Fiscal 2019 which is this year unless they release it before march in 2020. I'd say it's looking like a very strong possibility this year.
 

GrrImAFridge

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Oct 25, 2017
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gutterboy44

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Oct 27, 2017
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Wow, I had no idea this much info had leaked about it. Played the crap out of the first two games, looking forward to playing more with friends. Just make loot instanced this time. All the shared loot did was force people to use a duplicate glitch.
 

VariantX

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Oct 25, 2017
16,880
Columbia, SC
Did you play ultimate Vault hunter mode in 2 and the presequel, that's what that was. And it got super hard, you litterally couldn't invite people to high level because even like 1 or two level scaling would kill you and the mode was sorta built for co-op. Then there were the OP levels after that

Yeah, they went too hard on it. UVHM where you just beat the final boss in the last difficulty and the lowliest...anything can damn near 1 shot you and those are the level appropriate mobs. The bulletsponginess of the early game just ain't fun while you can be shredded like paper with the slightest breeze is more frustrating than anything.
 
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The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
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Woah dlc for borderlands 2? I'd be down for that as it justifies my purchase of the pc version. I'm also cautiously hyped for borderlands 3 as those leaked details sound awesome but I'm scared of the possibility that the game gets filled with MTX and paid lootboxes.

I wouldn't worry too much. The Outer Worlds is being published by Take2 and is free of any kind of MTX and Randy had the following to say on the subject


Yeah, they went too hard on it. UVHM where you just beat the final boss in the last difficulty and the lowliest...anything can damn near 1 shot you and those are the level appropriate mobs. The bulletsponginess of the early game just ain't fun while you can be shredded like paper with the slightest breeze is more frustrating than anything.


UVHM and by extension the OP levels are built around having thought out character builds. If you did have these UVHM really isn't that bad
 
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JG_Lionheart

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Dec 3, 2018
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hmmm....I never did the coop thing in Borderlands 2 with random guys. I was always paranoid that it would turn into a Diablo 2 loot situation were I couldn't pick up anything worthwhile.
 

CreeperBlocks

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's awesome that the first Borderlands is getting remastered. Makes me wonder if they are gonna make another collection with all 3 games in one collection before BL3