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[Bloomberg] Nintendo to Use New Nvidia Graphics Chip in 2021 Switch Upgrade (DLSS) [Analysts saying $350-399 MSRP]
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DLSS has a fixed cost added onto the costs to render at whatever your native res is. hence why 1080p is faster than 1080p > 4K
You wouldn't go through the trouble of fabricating a new chip on 8nm to make it barely more GPU performant than the TX1 from 2015.
Lets just be realistic here. There will be a 2x GPU bump at minimum, probably closer to 2.5-3x.
Yo, anyone got screens of 720p DLSS'd to 4K vs true 4K? I'm interested in what this "magical" tech can do
I guess it had more to do with what you were responding to.
Given that our resident source has said he expects (at least one) third party exclusive, it might be worth going over the list of games that already have DLSS support to see which titles might have a head start on a port: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DLSS_support
Nioh 2 got it a couple weeks ago, Control, Cyberpunk, CoD: Cold War, Avengers, Watch Dogs: Legions, FF XV, Death Stranding and more are on the list. Fortnite and Wolfenstein: Youngblood might be two existing Switch games that are candidates for a quick DLSS update.
Nioh 2 got it a couple weeks ago, Control, Cyberpunk, CoD: Cold War, Avengers, Watch Dogs: Legions, FF XV, Death Stranding and more are on the list. Fortnite and Wolfenstein: Youngblood might be two existing Switch games that are candidates for a quick DLSS update.
Not exactly what you are asking for, but this is a very good video showing what it can do:
Sounds good but I see spring 22 a better launch things for hardware are going to stay F'ed this year.
might not be exactly what you're asking, but here's a comparison of native 4K downsampled to 720p, vs 480p upscaled to 720p via DLSS
Nvidia DLSS 1 and 2 antialiasing discussion *spawn*
The PS5 is categorically and objectively outperforming the 2060S by a substantial margin. A lot of this thread has discussion from many folks on why the we should expect the PS5 to outperform it. Due to tflops, etc. And why it shouldn't be considered the as PS5 punching above its weight...
forum.beyond3d.com
Fortnite is a given especially with th DLSS Plugin that just released for UE4. Expect most UE4/5 games to use DLSS on Switch Pro and Epic/nVidia to make the process as easy as possible.
I bought one at launch XD. The GamePad Stand actually became quite useful during lockdown to hold my phone.
Nah it'll be more than that. We already have rumors of at least one game that won't run on the base model.
Plus we're getting a ~6-9x CPU increase on top of this.
I'm sure that is not happening.
It's more than just adding a new patch to toggle a flag to enable DLSS.
I doubt that older titles will receive DLSS patches.
Actually for any game that has TAA it is in reality as simple as literally ticking a box.
How do you think current games on PC get their DLSS Updates ? It's gonna happen if the games are selling and it makes sense. They aren't gonna wait 2-3 years for their next project when they can update a game already available on Switch in a month and rake in big sales from hungry Switch pro buyers early on.
So no secret sauce on the dock right? It would be cool if the thing somehow gave more juice to the Switch
Games like Fortnite will 100% get updated. Like thinking otherwise is just plain wrong.
Games on UE4 that have good sales will certainly be updated. Especially demanding ones.
The idea devs wont update old games is unfounded.
It will charge the battery just like the current dock. There's your juice.
From what I remember from benchmarks DLSS costs quite a bit more than TAA.
Again, I hope this is the case and if it was any company other than Nintendo I wouldn't even worry, but with the article not even mentioning a boost to the GPU specs I'm just worried Nintendo is going to have one of their famous baffling moments.
720p to 4k doesn't produce very great results.
Lol, I also still use that stand to hold my phone. Best stand ever!
What about 480 to 1080?
I just want my Zelda at 60fps and a reasonable resolution goddamnit
That may have been older versions, from what I understand about 2.1 it's essentially seen by the GPU as TAA.
We will see. I am hoping I'm wrong, but I couldn't shake off that feeling of doubt.
There are older titles which aren't selling on the Switch, or that they have stopped getting sales in activity. Smaller indie titles that didn't get any sales after the boost to the Switch Pro probably won't be seeing DLSS updates.
That game is a live service. It's a different type of game that will definitely get patched because of their ongoing seasons.
I just can't believe the switch went a whole generation without a price drop which is insane!!! I'm sad because I'm gonna miss out on a Nintendo launch for the first time because I'm gonna visit in laws Xmas times so I can't spend money... 😢
Yeah, we've seen the Outer Worlds devs work on the game a lot after launch. The assumption that no one will work on a patch for a game that takes more than setting a flag does not make sense to me.
The OG Switch generation isn't going to be over with this system launch. This'll apparently be positioned as a Pro, at least at first. Might take over the generation years down the line.
Don't forget the bigger screen. Look at any other product line: it costs more to get a bigger screen on something. It's a change that's immediately obvious to any consumer and makes it easy to price it $50 or $100 more. Putting together the pieces from the reports (7" OLED, 4K output), it sounds like the message will primarily be "It's a bigger Switch", and I'd expect Nintendo to market it that way - as an XL model (and not Pro). DLSS and CPU/GPU specs are implementation details - they'll focus on things that are obvious.
There are some big games that didn't receive the updates they warrant, just because the developers have moved on to work on different projects. They are the ones that I'm referring to, where the games they put out isn't likely to get patched.
Regardless, this might change, if the developers see potential sales and demand the moment DLSS is added into big titles.
Given there's barely room to increase the resolution in handheld mode, it's certainly plausible. Crunching the numbers, even a dynamic 1080p DLSS'd to 4K should be just in the realm of feasible if they're still targeting 900p on the base Switch (pending final clocks, of course).
You can always sell your old Switch to afford the new one. That's what I did with the V1.1 revision and that's what I'm planning to do with the Pro.
It's been on my bedside cabinet for years! Always place my phone in there to watch a video when working from home or just going to sleep! Haha
Base Switch can run it without any problems. Switch Pro will most likely get more PS4 ports as exclusives.