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Bloomberg: Nancy Pelosi Is Worried 2020 Candidates Are on Wrong Track
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"Medicare for All isn't the way to go"
"We shouldn't take things too left and alienate the base in the midwest"
These are definitely the views of someone that would be considered "progressive" and totally not of someone that has a vested interest in maintaining the status quo of American politics.
"We shouldn't take things too left and alienate the base in the midwest"
These are definitely the views of someone that would be considered "progressive" and totally not of someone that has a vested interest in maintaining the status quo of American politics.
Pelosi's net worth has fuck all to do with anything. That's just more of the left doing the job of the right and tearing down its own people.
Some people on this forum try to act like the election is a black and white issue but it's not. There are huge chunks of this country that aren't ready for that big of a switch but don't like Trump. If the democrats keep trying to "out-left" each other they're going to alienate a huge chunk of the country and Trump is going to get re-elected.
And who was also smart enough to let Trump hang himself rather than jumping the gun. If they impeached him based on the Mueller report we wouldn't have gotten any where. Instead we have this Ukraine issue which is really easy for the public to understand and has multiple people coming out, in public, to say Trump did something wrong.
Why are you quoting me and bring up Tulsi, I've not really taken her seriously this primary and have barely mentioned her. It's people like you who are signal boosting Gabbard, who only went up a tiny bit in the polls because Clinton attacked her. She is irreverent and you'd be hard pressed to find me saying that she is a liberal icon, or anything nice at all.
There is a reason why Pete is staying alive has much more to do with the following, much less to do that he is in the center:
In a just world, America would have it's own Labour Party with Bernie/AOC as the face of it.
so if this Ukraine thing never happened it would have been okay for her to still do nothing?
Let's not forget, they are more concerned with protecting their own superior healthcare and wealth.
I've never seen this news before. Assuming that leak can be trusted, that is honestly pretty fucked up.
It was a common thought at the time that Trump winning would destroy the Republican party and Jeb would beat Hillary in the popular vote (there were polls showing Jeb would, and, honestly, Jeb probably would've beaten her more than Trump).
Unless you think class interests are not a thing, the fact that she is rich is absolutely of note to the reality that the things she argues are politically savvy are also exactly the things that allow her to keep vast swaths of her personal wealth. Funny how that is!
Good thing the DNC took that risk for us. It's much better than random user writing in Elizabeth Warren.
I can absolutely understand thinking that, but the fact that the DNC actively worked to (ultimately) get us Trump is just...rough.
Random's not voting or writing in is what got us Trump in the end. Hillary was not a good campaigner and all that, yeah, but our best chance at not having a pub was for Hillary to win, and Hillary's best chance to win was probably Trump.
And, honestly, I feel like a competent Jeb with a bigger Senate and House margin would've been worse. Maybe no kids in cages but definitely a lot more deregulation, destruction of healthcare, war, and the like. Trump's incompetence has stopped a lot of his ideas from being put into law.
Its just one poll but still...
WAT?
This is like the first time I'm hearing about this..
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Or... You know, it's what she actually thinks.
Are we forgetting that it was Pelosi who whipped up the votes in the House to include a Public Option in the ACA bill?
Like, if it wasn't for Republicans we'd have it right now. And somehow, she's the focus of people's anger and frustrations.
Well, I didn't know this either. Of course, after the DNC thing, this is just the cherry on top of the shit pie.
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It's possible for her to do good things in the past and also fail the current political moment we're in.
I mean come on now, you really think she predicted the Ukraine thing? She just got extremely lucky with it. She wasn't playing smart. Give me a break. How long did it take for Trump to *hang* himself? 3 years in, think about that for a second.
What is the point of this, other than shit-posting?Nancy Pelosi stays chalking up Ws, sorry
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Bernie got minor wealth from a book, and class traitors are a thing.
Learning about this actually pisses me off even more, I though I knew all the wrong decisions Democrats made in 2016, yet years later I learn something shocking like this.
One of the main things that pissed me of in 2016 was no one else was encouraged to run in the Dem Primary in 2016... Donor class had said Clinton, Clintons said Clinton and everyone played along. Dem leadership totally failed in every possible way, & that made Trump happen. It's like the headline says they played 4D-Chess against themselves, and I'm not just blaming just the Clintons. Every single person with some influence could have changed this - Obama, Biden, Warren, Palosi, DWS, Kerry, Gore etc. they didn't it's super frustrating
One of the main things that pissed me of in 2016 was no one else was encouraged to run in the Dem Primary in 2016... Donor class had said Clinton, Clintons said Clinton and everyone played along. Dem leadership totally failed in every possible way, & that made Trump happen. It's like the headline says they played 4D-Chess against themselves, and I'm not just blaming just the Clintons. Every single person with some influence could have changed this - Obama, Biden, Warren, Palosi, DWS, Kerry, Gore etc. they didn't it's super frustrating
I heard that Bernie was going to set the lower band for his wealth tax at $2m instead of $32m but he was worried he'd lose the money he made from his book so he increased it.
*Bernie losses primary by millions of votes* "There are institutional reasons why bernie lost this election, it was practically rigged"
*Hillary wins general by millions of votes and losses undemocratic EC* "Fucking dems need to learn how to campaign!"
yup
These people aren't political masterminds they're just powerful
It's almost as if the 2016 Democratic Primary and General election were completely different events
He earned his wealth!! He's not like the other rich and wealthy! LMAO
I was calling for Warren to run up until November 2015 when I realized she wouldn't. That's more than I can say about Dem Leadership:
I can't stand her defeatist attitude. If the ideas are good, but they are not playing well in those areas, the idea is to not shy away from them, but do a better job in your messaging.
Quit being a lazy politician and do a better job selling your ideas to the American People.
Quit being a lazy politician and do a better job selling your ideas to the American People.
Wealthy people who support their wealth being taxed away (not given away via charity) are different from those who don't support their wealth being taxed away.
And Bernie is not that wealthy. He's got less than 5 million USD.
The old guard Dems needs to be taken out- if not in 2020, by AOC in 8-12 years.
My only concern is the "Medicare for All" thing. There have been way too many polls suggesting that most people like their private insurance (probably because of the "Fuck you. I got mine" mentality). Telling people you're going to take it away is a disaster waiting to happen. They better pivot the fuck back to the middle and embrace Mayor Pete's "Why not both?" approach.
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People don't like insurance. They like their doctors. People change insurance all of the time when they get a new employer or when the employer decides to get new insurance.
People always forget this part. It's just so hilarious. It's like Hillary wanted to help Trump by secretly sucking at it.
This is a ridiculously mendacious extrapolation of what I've said.