Seriously. I'm playing on mine right now. If everything was available, I'd be on a PS5 for Demon's Souls instead. But I'm loving this thing anyway. Wouldn't have gotten on board until a couple years from now if at all, otherwise.
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Seriously. I'm playing on mine right now. If everything was available, I'd be on a PS5 for Demon's Souls instead. But I'm loving this thing anyway. Wouldn't have gotten on board until a couple years from now if at all, otherwise.
If you also play on consoles it's not that bad, just wait like 4 hours and then you'll forget about things for awhile. it'll - the feeling - come back, sometimes... sometimes in waves, but you can just keep playing Horizon Zero Dawn's Frozen Wilds DLC that you ignored back then, not remastered or anything, still great but depressingly a little dated, on your PS5. Just to get ready for the sequel in two weeks which you're -FUCKING PUMPED- about [yeah it was also designed and is being released on the PS4, it's ok]. But as Frank Reynolds always said, push it down with some brown. I have Maker's Mark here if you need some. Ignore it and keep going. There's no need to care about things right now. Spider-Man remastered which you also finally got to a month ago was FUCKING AWESOME BUT... no really climbing the tallest buildings was kick ass, and looked great....but something was off. Those windows that looked insane in screenshots 3 or 4 years ago on good old 'Era just seem off for some reason right now. I don't know, let's fire up Demon's Souls. Halo looks pretty sick over on the fridge. Horizon (with the steering wheel) is insane looking as always. I just don't feel like playing them. Maybe I'll check out Twitch or YouTube to see what's up. Oh fuck me, I forgot Dying Light 2 was out. I loved the first one. Let's check out Digital Foundry's thoughts, maybe I can just get it on the Series X and forget about the 20-wait-I-mean-30-year-old-backlog that I've been gestating. Alright this game looks sick <6 minutes in> oh fuck me, I need a GPU. Brb, checking Wario
You should buy when ready. Don't rush to build because of this. You can get started, but start with the mindset of pacing yourself to relax.
Specialization, consolidation, and risk aversion (to investment in plant, equipment, and human resources)
I was just thinking of them when reading this.
Enthusiasts (and indie devs) been complaining about it's prowess for a while but if this is why we won't get an update or a next-gen console in the near future...shit.
It always seems to be in stock. Is that a reflection of unconstrained supply or lacklustre demand?
Also, if there is a chip shortage, why is there such an abundance of the Series S? I know the CPU is marginally weaker than the Series X, but would that significantly affect yield?
PS execs must be so depressed...😅
They had by far the best games in a PS first year, a lot of hype around the new console but they can produce like only half of what they could have sold.
They could have imo easily outsold the competition that first year.
Guess they are happy that Horizon FW, GT7 and GoWR are not PS5 only…
Not only in life, but also in business sometimes you need some luck. 😅
imagine being a small tech company and having to compete against Apple, Samsung, Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo, Nvidia… and dozens of car manufacturers for chips… 😱
They had by far the best games in a PS first year, a lot of hype around the new console but they can produce like only half of what they could have sold.
They could have imo easily outsold the competition that first year.
Guess they are happy that Horizon FW, GT7 and GoWR are not PS5 only…
Not only in life, but also in business sometimes you need some luck. 😅
imagine being a small tech company and having to compete against Apple, Samsung, Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo, Nvidia… and dozens of car manufacturers for chips… 😱
From everything we've seen the Steam Deck is not being positioned as a mass market product
That could change in the future but as of now it's not
What a dark timeline.
Only positive for me would be Sony accelerating their PC releases. Looks like I won't be getting a PS5 any time soon as there's zero availability here and I don't see that changing. Hopefully Sony will recognize that people can't buy their games with no hardware to play them on. I can and will buy their games on PC.
Only positive for me would be Sony accelerating their PC releases. Looks like I won't be getting a PS5 any time soon as there's zero availability here and I don't see that changing. Hopefully Sony will recognize that people can't buy their games with no hardware to play them on. I can and will buy their games on PC.
TSMC's Arizona fab will start producing in 2024.
Samsung's Texas fab will also start producing in 2024.
Still a long way to go…
This is what I did this week. First time I've bought a prebuilt since our first computer in 92. Spent a little over 4k, it's a monster and will last an extremely long time with a 3090. Hopefully by the time I need to upgrade in the far future the prices will drop and I can build my own again for cheap.
It only became consistently in stock in the US over the holiday period. But it's a weird metric anyway. The PS4 was widely available within a couple months of launch and it didn't mean there wasn't demand. Similarly Xbox has already made up 50% of their market share gap vs Sony even though Series S is "sitting on shelves" - this would indicate there's a lot of stock being bought and replaced rather than sitting unsold in the channel. It just happens that we finally have one system where production is enough to meet demand.
There's an abundance of Series S because it has the smallest chip of the 3 consoles so you can get more of them out of a given wafer than you can X or PS5s. And indeed see my long post earlier in this thread - I suspect MS may have shifted their production to favor Series S over the past year. By sacrificing Series Xs for Ss, they can boost the total number of consoles produced.
Switch will become the best selling console in history, won't it?
Man this sucks, I want a Switch 2 in the near future, lol.
Man this sucks, I want a Switch 2 in the near future, lol.
I read the article as highlighting how much demand is through the roof for chips more than an issue with supply. You still need to get a foundry to make the chips, so even if the console manufacturers have ordered enough wafers, getting chips out of them is still going to be a challenge for at least the next two years and it could be even longer than that.
I have been thinking that this week. We will probably see dayone PC releases much sooner than we think, because eventually these shortages are going to start to hurt PlayStation's bottom line when it comes to their first party releases.
Being pretty optimistic if you think they met ~50% of demand, I would wager they met demand in far smaller %. PS5 literally doesn't exist for most of the world, never has. You maybe see some store getting like 2 units every 2-ish months, at least in Finland.
I wouldn't be shocked if they are having talks with dev teams about transitioning a lot more 1st party stuff into cross-gen for foreseeable future.
Thanks for the clear and comprehensive answer. The fact that the Series S has a smaller chip size was new to me. Good to know. Yes, it does seem like the Series S is really paying off for Microsoft.
to provide streaming, you need to have data centers running the games, and you still need chips to build data centers. There's a cap on that too
Don't you mean pushed further back? As in later in time? Ahead implies earlier.
i was hoping we would be able have a few years of normality before the 2030's (when shit hits the fan) but it doesn't seem like it's happening. people keep saying this shortage is gonna be over in 2023 but i thought it'd be 2024/2025. even if they say 2026 today...that's 4 years away. we're gonna feel the effect of this well beyond that.
the 2030's will be much worse. this is the new normality....things might get even worse so maybe we ain't seen shit yet. we'll be dealing with this shit into the 30's and even 40's.
the 2030's will be much worse. this is the new normality....things might get even worse so maybe we ain't seen shit yet. we'll be dealing with this shit into the 30's and even 40's.
Its a very complex process and not an industry you can quickly jump into. Like you said, it will probably take years (if not decades in some cases) to really get good at it and become competetive. Also, look at ASML; they are basically the worlds ONLY company producing the current cutting edge EUV machines (the machines that 'print' the chips on the wafers) that are needed for the smallest production nodes (like 7nn and smaller). I'm daring to say that the technology involved goes way beyond 'rocket science'.
I think part of it is people think the Series S is last gen. One of my kids kept asking why I bought the old Xbox instead of the new one(X). Also im betting a number of the S chips are just X chips that weren't good enough so they cut them down. Sony would do well to release a similar console before last gen finally dies.
Yea Nintendo will clearly milk the Switch away until the situation is better. Good for them tho, it is still in a 20+ million sales per year pace without a price cut, so they should be totally find pulling that off. They can just launch a new revision with a power upgrade in the meantime and i will be totally satisfied.
Would binning work, though, when it's an APU? I'm not sure if this is the correct term, but isn't everything on the same die? Yes, the Series S was widely derided before release. Seems like MS is the one laughing now.
It's probably much more efficient if you stream tho, cause them wafers are shared across all players so so you'd need a smaller amount of total wafers. An example would be somebody playing after office in America and somebody else playing after office in Europe: they can both get the same amount of gaming with wafers for one.
Fair warning, I haven't been following the chip shortage closely. But AFAIU, there's a chip shortage that caps the production of consoles. For PC gaming, CPUs seem to be near normal prize and GPUs prices are exorbitant mostly to (I) high demand due to crypto mining, and (II) AMD sucks.
Are these two console and PC shortages related? Or is the chip shortage discussed in this thread something that hits console production mostly?
Are these two console and PC shortages related? Or is the chip shortage discussed in this thread something that hits console production mostly?
