He could've put it better but a big news outlet like Game Informer really shouldn't be allowed to overlook a serious issue like crunch.
-
Ever wanted an RSS feed of all your favorite gaming news sites? Go check out our new Gaming Headlines feed! Read more about it here.
[Bloomberg: Jason Schreier] - Cyberpunk Game Maker Faces Hostile Staff After Failed Launch
- Thread starter Era of not Yakuza
- Start date
- News
She goes out of her way to never say "crunch" or expressly comment on how employees are treated there. In October she said that crunch was "voluntary and agreed upon" which was incongruent with many other reports and accounts from developers within the studio.
It's pretty clear why she is doing what she is doing, and then gets personal when its called out.
The media side of the industry has to do something about Jason's repeated history of sicking his Twitter mob on people. Stop using him on IGN's review crew or inviting him on Kinda Funny or any of these things.
I understand he does important work, but he's also extremely harmful. He doesn't have to be both.
I understand he does important work, but he's also extremely harmful. He doesn't have to be both.
You shouldn't. I agree that he was an amazing visionary but people need to quit putting people and companies pedestals that drive their "innovation" by depriving their workforce of happiness. The whole reason why CDPR and many other game companies get away with treating their employees as disposable is because the end product is great and we really should push back on that. You can't recognize somebody as having created something brilliant without also acknowledging the human price that was paid for said brilliance.
lmao, Nope Jason is doing good work here. the media side of the industry has to get rid of these corporate bootlickers that are bending over for cdpr. Jason's not one of them
It should be 100% clear that Jason views any description of crunch without using the word crunch is downplaying the reality for devs. They are not just working long hours. They are crunching. Crunch has deep implications that individuals are self-deteriorating through their labor. Working long hours does not share this same implication. And I personally agree, if you are not using the word crunch to describe what is happening within this industry, you are downplaying the situation.
Though it should be noted that Jason has since deleted the tweet that has caused this discussion.
Though it should be noted that Jason has since deleted the tweet that has caused this discussion.
Good.
That was very scummy and vindictive on his part.
As for CDPR, I bet they'll still be crunching for a foreseeable future, managment will probably want to put down this fire no matter the cost.
OP
OP
Apparently you can call something by many different names and it won't change the tone.
Unemployment: Job Emancipation
Hunger: Tummy Rumbles
Death: Permanent Rest
Corruption: Being Manipulated
Crunch: Long Work Hours
Enjoy all you future writers!
Unemployment: Job Emancipation
Hunger: Tummy Rumbles
Death: Permanent Rest
Corruption: Being Manipulated
Crunch: Long Work Hours
Enjoy all you future writers!
Schreier does great reporting it's just a shame about his personal demeanor and the way he conducts arguments online. He's super vindictive and extremely petty on the regular, seems like, and using a professional article as a bludgeon to attack someone is a bad look.
I would say the story is better in 2 but character development better in 3.
Her defending crunch is making it worst, so it's okay for her to attack him and undermine his article? but it's not okay for him to call her out on the bullshit?
I mean, these are circumstances where he's already done the hard work in the first place, was right, and others questioned/attacked *his* credibility in situations where that reporting was trying to help others and the industry itself. Yes, people should remember he is/was right. That's not arrogance.
The ones that want to attack him and target him for criticizing CDPR or whatever game company. The ones that are also in the media defending it.
Jason has a point, but the way he framed things and the manner in which he conducted himself was not appropriate. These two things can both be true.
Why is him still continually point abuse in her direction okay for one time where she said devs said something different to her? I'm not playing this game, she doesn't deserve this abuse, her article is very negative to CDPR, there's nothing wrong with it.
A lot of the tweets posted are deleted so it's hard to understand what is happening as of now in this thread. I hate when Tweets are used as posts in this forum.
She doesn't deserve any abuse, I agree but she wasn't very negative to CDPR, she specifically ignored the mention of crunch and underminded facts and this isn't the first time she's done exactly the same thing.
OP
OP
I mean, how a journalist is going to work if people say he has 0 credibility?
You can simultaneously think Liana is wack for downplaying crunch, but also believe Jason is exceedingly petty and way out of line for putting her in the crosshairs of the internet hate mob.
Come on, folks. Let's walk and chew gum here.
Come on, folks. Let's walk and chew gum here.
Tale as old as time. Clueless board idiots demanding results at any cost without ever considering the consequences if it fails.
Cyberpunk by a mile. Avengers has its own issues, however I enjoyed my time with it, the campaign itself was pretty fun. The game could have gone a couple more months before release to fix everything up, whereas it feels like Cyberpunk needed a solid year.
It seems incredibly strange that so many are defending Game Informer of all outlets, especially considering their constant downplaying of actual physical and mental abuse via crunch from CDPR. Like, what? We need more journalists calling out shitty practices, and that includes when large platforms go to bat for said practices in the form of bad-faith arguments. GI literally tried to say crunch was voluntary and people are still giving them the benefit of the doubt. It feels so backwards.
GI article did bend backwards to not talk directly about crunch. Jason tweet was still disgusting and self-serving, dude can do way better than that.
No she didn't. And if Jason actually thought her article could improve he could have replied all the times she tried to reach out to him privately. Please stop defending this. It's a deservice to Jason himself as this is something he keeps doing again and again, he really needs to learn from it and stop
Like she did to him? I'm just waiting to see how it's not okay for jason to clap back when she's done it multiple times.
She did multiple times. Why should she get a pass for bad journalism and underminding jason in public?
He's about half as arrogant as I would be in his shoes and twice as polite. Their sycophantic boot licking is what justifies these horrible business practices. Broken AAA game launches are the norm and not the exception, but those review scores are just as high as ever. Enough is enough. Someone needs to say something.
Yeah, I think his calling out of other news organizations who are effectively acting as PR wings for the companies they cover is very much warranted. And I find Liana's martyrish defense of herself unconvincing. She and everyone responsible for the reporting at GI deserve this kind of backlash. Do better.
The PARC was an amazing hotbed for innovation, there doesn't seem to be anything like it today sadly.A very basic and somewhat misleading view of what happened, but it was certainly part of it.
A really fascinating read. Xerox was truly one of the most innovative companies of all time.
They are not going to do better when you have people here defending her for attacking jason.
He's not pointing abuse in her direction. He's calling out GameInformer's reporting. He never even mentioned her name.
This isn't an attack on Liana Ruppert, it's just highlighting GI's irresponsible reporting. Liana Ruppert also has a massive platform and a responsibility to call out abusive practices in the industry she covers. Or at the very least, don't hand-waive those very valid concerns away and try to paint a rosier picture.
Believe me, I'm not in any way in favor of a journalist getting more hate than her coworkers just for being a woman, and that's a major problem as well. But that doesn't mean she shouldn't be held to account for her obviously biased reporting. And in her defenses of herself nowhere is anything explaining how they got it so wrong.
And Jason's tweet is dead on the money about GI, sorry.