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Blizzard should be working on Overwatch 2 or something and goddamn it's so obvious
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What an odd thing to read about a Blizzard property. I guess modern Blizzard is really that far removed from classic Blizzard.
Overwatch 2 sounds like the perfect way to to split and destroy the existing playerbase and competetive scene. They have their mtx sales so it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to invest so much to split the series. Overwatch will get support for years to come.
But who the heck knows after the recent bullshit with Activision.
But who the heck knows after the recent bullshit with Activision.
And every change he wants can be made to OW without a sequel too.
The only thing they are making is Suicide Watch because Overwatch is dying
The craze is over, they failed to capitalize the huge growth they had with the game in my honest opinion.
I can't really have a positive outlook with current ActivisionBlizzard, and it sucks. I love Blizzard, and Overwatch had so much potential.
The craze is over, they failed to capitalize the huge growth they had with the game in my honest opinion.
I can't really have a positive outlook with current ActivisionBlizzard, and it sucks. I love Blizzard, and Overwatch had so much potential.
I'm amazed how in this forum some people argue that Overwatch is not a Gaas game and in a thread besides it some other argue how ARMS it's a Gaas game for sure.
I don't think they'll do a full sequel. It doesn't make any sense to me.. I think it's more likely that they're working on a big expansion that will include several new characters, maps and game modes that all release at once. I'd chuck £10-20 to play all this new stuff, and I haven't played the game in a year or so.
I really don't think they'd look at a sequel unless the current game sees playerbase declines that seem completely unsalvageable. Splitting the user base between two games can kill both, so it's not worth the risk until the first game falls enough that they're ready to write it off completely.
I doubt there'll be a sequel of Overwatch any time soon. They should just try to fix all the flaws the game has and release an update that is like OW 2.0 without having a new game. Other than that I could imagine a spin-off. But what exactly would they need to plan? Battle Royale? Maybe like Apex with OW heroes?
I think until the engine buckles under its own weight, a sequel is unnecessary. Balance, ability and character changes can simply be part of the rolling updates. This has both benefits and drawbacks, the overall risks of losing players who won't transition outweigh whatever perceived advantages switching titles will bring.
Dota 2 has had some really fucking wild swings in terms of changing the game outside of simple balance changes and not needed to move everyone to a new game. Moving to a new title, I feel, is a relatively short-sighted solution to a longer term problem which can be overcome with what they already have.
Dota 2 has had some really fucking wild swings in terms of changing the game outside of simple balance changes and not needed to move everyone to a new game. Moving to a new title, I feel, is a relatively short-sighted solution to a longer term problem which can be overcome with what they already have.
It makes no sense. Why releasing a new game, splitting players, instead of improving your existing one? Okay, money, I know. But otherwise, no.
Mechanically as in the complexity of the gameplay systems, complexity does not equal depth, difficulty, or nuance.
IE you could more content for the game than just 'online PvP stuff' without having to balance heroes particularly for things like PvE etc, and in doing so would not effect the PvP game. It's one of the benefits of the game being made for PvP first instead of the problem that MMOs run into with being built around PvE w basic AI and mobs, and then figuring out ways to make PvP balanced (often resulting in seoerate gear types etc).
I wouldn't say so. The thing with overwatch is that a massive part of its appeal lies in the characters, world, and lore. That's why people want more than just 'new map and hero' with what can barely be called drip feeding; they want more access into experiencing overwatch actively. It's the same reason why you can have overwatch comic books than people eat up. Overwatch is presented in character/narrative terms that the others simply as not.
IMO, it's just a bad take from someone who narrowly engages with the property. It's cool that is all Overwatch really is to them, but that's not represented in the fan base as a whole.
It's extremely doubtful that they have been allowed to attempt letting Overwatch live up to its potential. They have to satisfy the shareholders first and that means that the games bery monetization ethos was pitched as 'doing the least work for the fastest return that can keep the engagement pool just satisfied enough over a protracted period of time' instead of having a roadmap to make meaningful additions to it that would cost money, time, and would be seen as risks.
If all of that CG/Comic and other movie from the budget had gone into more ambition in updating the base game, or had there been more ambition and no shareholders to disproportionately serve first and foremost, Overwatch would be bigger than it currently is and a better game.
Again, an example of doing it right from a game that started as a barely functional and extremely limited corridor grinder
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I do wonder exactly how lucrative Overwatch is right now. They permanently halved the price of the game in January, and I have a strong suspicion that lootbox sales are pretty much non-existent these days (skins are the only things people care about, and most players already have skins they like for the characters they play). I think going free to play, with more scope for recurring monetisation (something akin to Fortnite's Battle Pass probably) is the most likely path for the game.
Wow has had countless lore based expansions, both games sell a world and its characters as the hook into the gameplay, I wonder why people want more from Overwatch ;)
They haven't been building anything but the first floor for years, and people are bored of the view
They're certainly not reinvesting profits and growing it like a F2P game. Maybe they should make it F2P everywhere alongside some big new feature of actual note while then presenting a roadmap. Hell, anything at this point would be 'well finally'.
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I don't see myself coming back. It was great back in 2016-2017, but the audience has moved on to Battle Royale. Hopefully Overwatch incorporates that mode soon and I might come back.
I think that focusing on changing the meta constantly broke the game. It certainly made it less fun and unpredictable.
I think that focusing on changing the meta constantly broke the game. It certainly made it less fun and unpredictable.
Excatly, expansions, new content for the same game. The game is an evolving service for years and years.
And this is the same for Overwatch. It is constantly getting "expansions", but they are free, with new lore, characters, maps, costumes and even modes (arcade).
Plus, this is a competitive e-sports game.
It is much harder to create new content for it.
Each new character and map must be perfectly balanced, otherwise it will break the game.
This game took years to be made with just the base characters.
In WoW it is easy to add tons of new maps, but they rarely create new classes or spells (and OW is all about these two things).
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Games as service receiving new entries is so stupid. I play DotA 2 for 10 years already and never asked for DotA 3. They already revamped the game twice, and lots of things have been included with no limitations.
We are not even talking about a new game for a new gen. We talking the same gen! Why do you thrink a sequel selling for the exact same price would triple the amount of feature like you are describing?
We are not even talking about a new game for a new gen. We talking the same gen! Why do you thrink a sequel selling for the exact same price would triple the amount of feature like you are describing?
But we basically got our answer regarding Overwatch.
And it's basically what I expected (a spin-off, but nothing that'll replace Overwatch itself).
If Activision isnt going to back blizzard in actively engaging and listening to its audience then nothing will change about the game. Warframe is as popular as it is today by listening to its audience and offering that experience for free. Maybe they flip overwatch into a f2p game, but they have to work on putting the game in a more palatable place as well. The content drip is too slow and not much of it changes the meta of the game anyways. We can point to "what ifs" with their budget, but thay doesnt change anything about what activision wants for the game.
I would highly disagree with the notion of Overwatch adding in different loadouts/weapons for characters. The entire point of strategy in the game is that when you see a Pharah, Roadhog, Zarya or Zenyatta you immediately know what they are capable of doing. I don't want that to become a guessing game because I can't see that a gun is slightly different looking from 50 yards away.
Also Blizzard has a hard enough time keeping things balanced as it is, could you imagine if each character had 2-3 different weapons and interchangeable abilities? Lawd.
Also Blizzard has a hard enough time keeping things balanced as it is, could you imagine if each character had 2-3 different weapons and interchangeable abilities? Lawd.
I'm fairly convinced (with no inside information, of course) that we're going to be seeing a LEGO Overwatch game this year from the folks at TT.
I wish, I hate these service type games when they go on for so long without changing anything in a big way. OW has felt so stale since early last year, Having abig shakeup would be appreciated.
This. Also, it's way too soon. The game is constantly getting updates and is still so fresh imo. It's only been 3 years, right? Idk. People always want new games so fast. Does the game really feel old to you already?
It won't happen. Overwatch League has too much invested in it right now. A sequel would fragment the base and there's no guarantee all the OWL players would switch to the new game. They're just going to keep updating and balance changing the current game.
If at some point OWL revenue tanks and they shutter it like they did the Heroes of the Storm esports stuff, then maybe OW2 will be in development. Until then, live with Overwatch.
If at some point OWL revenue tanks and they shutter it like they did the Heroes of the Storm esports stuff, then maybe OW2 will be in development. Until then, live with Overwatch.
To be fair, that was back when the meta wasn't as solidified. OG Overwatch still had its fair share of broken shit. For one, imagine going back to the "Hide & Rez" Mercy strat, among others.
God tier Widow, McCree and Mercy, lol. Original Symmetra who was just bizarre and borderline useless. I don't even remember many other characters from launch... Junkrat was kinda bad iirc. Winston was total ass.
That's probably why they're going all in on OWL. It's the biggest money maker for them by a mile.
I also think a battle pass is likely. It's really the only thing that makes sense since the lootboxes barely make money and they won't do DLC that splits the userbase.
To the very limited extent you actually have any specific or substantive ideas in there, they are all terrible and make no sense from either a business or a player point of view. It sounds like you just want an entirely different game and that desire is in no way responsive to the current state of Overwatch from Blizzard's perspective.
This game is going to be supported and supplemented for a long time to come, likely with more than a few significant shake-ups before it's all over.
You don't make a whole new game because you don't like the current meta.
This game is going to be supported and supplemented for a long time to come, likely with more than a few significant shake-ups before it's all over.
You don't make a whole new game because you don't like the current meta.
Won't be a sequel, but I expect they'll introduce overhauls and additions to gameplay sometime in the near future. If they do something drastically different like battle royal, that would probably be a spinoff along side overwatch.
Classic WoW will bring back the subs. Oddly enough.
Knowing there will be a hard cap with no future expansion and a locked-down endgame will probably draw in some oldtimers, like me who are sick of the bi-yearly $49.99 expansions that make all your previous efforts obsolete. Not to mention these awful systems they add to the game each expansion that nobody ever asked for.
Knowing there will be a hard cap with no future expansion and a locked-down endgame will probably draw in some oldtimers, like me who are sick of the bi-yearly $49.99 expansions that make all your previous efforts obsolete. Not to mention these awful systems they add to the game each expansion that nobody ever asked for.
What, did you hear that Overwatch 2 is in development or do you just not trust Benji? Wouldn't a sequel this soon fracture the user base (especially with the Overwatch League in full swing)?
The drought you're talking about should have been filled with other titles from Blizzard like Diablo and Starcraft, not Overwatch 2.
I'm satisfied with Overwatch right now and it's a game I can keep on returning to everyone and then. I hope eventually they add some story or lore in game.
I'm surprised the shorts weren't patched in.
It would be interesting to see eventually what they would do for an Overwatch 2.
I think Overwatch would carry to the next gen, and sometime in the middle of next gen we may get a sequel.
I'm surprised the shorts weren't patched in.
It would be interesting to see eventually what they would do for an Overwatch 2.
I think Overwatch would carry to the next gen, and sometime in the middle of next gen we may get a sequel.
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