I bet we're getting a controlled 'leak' of a game Blizzard will drop at BlizzCon in the next week. Maybe a CG trailer.
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Blizzard Releases Statement, Reduces Blitzchung And Casters' Suspension To Six Months And Restores Blitzchung's Prize Money
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To people citing the fact that there are rules in place at many companies to avoid having employees step into divisive territory, I don't think everyone who's calling for protesting Blizzard is blissfully unaware how the world works... Best I just speak for myself. What I want to happen is that it will never be taboo to speak out against discrimination, human rights abuse, stuff any compassionate person can agree on sucks to be the victim of, especially if it's being done peacefully and with consideration of all involved parties. If the rules are that every company has to be Switzerland and look the other way at such things cause that's the way we do business in the world then that's exactly what the protests are fundamentally about. Anytime someone argues against a fundamental change in how humanity understands itself with "but it's completely normal the way it is" I ask myself why can't we have nice things? Why can't we strive to evolve into something better? Why do we have to agree on these arbitrary rules? And while my idealism has certainly lost its edge over my adult years I still hold on to a little bit of hope that that's possible and am thankful for all people willing to believe in it as well.
Greedy people want to have their cake and being able to eat it.
It shows that there is no possibility that I will be supporting them (or Activision) in the future.
In theory, if they have metrics about account deletions, it would show them how many people are willing to delete theirs, which is a more drastic and trackable measure than just not logging in.
In this age of microtransactions and subscriptions, engagement means just as much if not more that direct purchases.
By deleting your account your depriving them of one potential sale down the line which no doesn't make a difference but if enough people do it, it would definitely make blizzard wary of doing this.
Also burning the nike was a counter protest to a legitimate protest. Arguing that protesting against China in anyway you can and burning your Nike boots cause the blacks are getting all uppity because of getting shot all the time is the same is a bit disingenuous don't you think.
Ah, right, I see. Guess I'll delete my account as well.
You misunderstood me, I merely meant that "deleting your account is pointless as Blizzard already got your money" much like how them idiots burning their Nike was.
I'm being personally affected by this protest, as in, given that I've made my pro-Hong Kong stance public, I could very well be joining the mysteriously "suicide" group before or if China wins. This isn't just some personal justice and righteousness for some news overseas, it's literally where I live, win or lose could affect me greatly. Of course, being not a great fan of China (to put it lightly), is a major reason why I chose my side.
Looks like they banned American University after all.
I know this news is a little old but can I still say "whew, dodged that bullet"?
So they ban a team after what... at least a week of jack shit, a team that already said they were forfeiting the rest of the reason anyway.
Wow.
And they took, what, a day (if that) to ban Blitzchung?
Fuck outta here, Blizzard.
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Hardly matters since they didn't suspend the casters as well and it took them considerably longer to act. Banning these folks screams "we lied about our reasoning and now we have to try and make it seem legit." This just makes them look even worse. Much like canceling their Switch convention. They're not getting out of this by hiding their head and banning more people.
Took them long enough, considered how swift the other ban was. Trying to counter the double standard narrative?
Tell them you're willing to verify any data they already have on record but you will not, under any circumstances, give them new data. You didn't need to jump through this hoop to create the account and give them money so it's BS to require it now. Repeat that you want your account (and thus your personal data) deleted as is your right.
Really worrying this is fizzling out as a concern in the gaming community, really beginning to see less and less care for this and even contempt and mockery for people who do care. The recent Overwatch thread really felt like some were taking a swipe at people for caring.
How long until they ban Overwatch because of Mei being used as a symbol for the protests I wonder.
Unfortunately, I think some folks believe that the punishment reduction is good enough. There are people who were only upset at the severity of the punishment.instead of the overall issue of how attached Blizzard is in supporting the Chinese government. "Take the politics out of my video games" and all that.
A Lakers Fan Raised Almost $43k to Hand Out "Stand with Hong Kong" T-Shirts at the Season Opener
Okay, someone attending Blizzcon needs to do this!
Okay, someone attending Blizzcon needs to do this!
Why am I still unable to delete my account without sending in photo ID? This shit is ridiculous.
So I take it Blizzards options here are to either ride it out, potentially get banned in China, or attempt to completely segregate the Chinese Blizzard experience from the rest of the world (Censored Chinese clients with China-only tournaments)?
I feel like the CPC wouldn't like the third option since they want to enforce their stances as the global norm.
I feel like the CPC wouldn't like the third option since they want to enforce their stances as the global norm.
Welp, just requested for Account deletion. I only have Starcraft II licenses on that account, but whatever.
Make a complaint to your supervisory authority if you are in the EU. Requesting photo ID for account deletion seems pretty unreasonable.
US Senators Ron Wyden, Marco Rubio and US Reps Alexandria Ocasio-Corte , Mike Gallagher, and Tom Malinowksi wrote a bipartisan letter blasting Bobby Kotick for banning blitzchung.
US Senators Wyden, Rubio and US Reps AOC, Gallagher, and Malinowksi wrote a bipartisan letter blasting Bobby Kotick for banning Ng Wai Chung.
Holy shit. This probably deserves it's own thread. This is basically a warning.
This letter to me (and i could be wrong) seems to be a "Hey, We see you and your interests with China, Blizzard. Get on the right team" from the united states government.
Edit: And after thinking about it, What are they gonna do? The republican ran US government has been a shitshow. They arent gonna do a damn thing against blizzard except slap them on the hand and say "dont do that now".
Which is why we cant let republicans win the pres election next year
Well 2 of the 5 are Republicans co-signers of the letter, probably could bi-partisan support if they really pushed for it.
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-10-19-blizzard-faces-an-impossible-choice-but-choose-it-must
Nice article on the situation from Eurogamer.
Do you really think a Democratic led congress would actually pass regulation agienst Blizzard for this? That the government will enforce freedom of speech to private companies? Nobody's gonna regulate this unless it gets much MUCH worse.
Thanks for the link, it's a good summary and commentary. I hadn't connected the dots that Diablo Immortal was also a choice driven by the Chinese market. The counter example of the NBA is also illuminating.
Magic: The Gathering Pro Uses Victory To Spotlight Hong Kong, Is Not Banned
Kotaku turning the heat up a bit, and other companies leveraging the bad PR to their advantage.
Kotaku turning the heat up a bit, and other companies leveraging the bad PR to their advantage.
Haha, I also just made a thread for it just in case people wanted to discuss just that part and also continue to put HK stories in the spotlight.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/wi...upport-at-magic-mythic-championship-v.148312/
It's really frustrating that the language we use surrounding this issue is referring to it as an "impossible choice", as if this situation isn't a direct result of hundreds of choices that Blizzard has made leading up to this moment. It alleviates Blizzard of the responsibility they have for putting themselves in this predicament and circumvents the reality that many large video game developers have somehow avoided ending up in this scenario.
Referring to choices between money and morality as "impossible" is capitalism's equivalent of "boys will be boys" and it needs to stop.
Holy shit the play hearthstone stream live stream chat is FULL of people saying things in support of Hong Kong or criticizing China. This really isnt dying down. I'm genuinely surprised.
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"Impossible choice"
No. It is not an impossible choice.
Painful, possibly. But it is perfectly possible to do the only decent thing.
Funny there are no player camerasHoly shit the play hearthstone stream live stream chat is FULL of people saying things in support of Hong Kong or criticizing China. This really isnt dying down. I'm genuinely surprised.
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User Banned (1 Month): Racist Commentary; Prior Severe Ban for Excusing Bigotry
I love how internet armchair experts are all "they can easily pull all of their business out of china" when all of their competition is balls deep in kung pao.