He's banned but the removal from grandmasters was a separate punishment.
everyone posting responses from domestic sport events is missing the point.
They need to post pictures of international events, taking a stance for an issue that's considered controversial in one of the countries associated with the sport.
"We express our strong indignation [or resentment] and condemnation of the events that occurred in the Hearthstone Asia Pacific competition last weekend and absolutely oppose the dissemination of personal political ideas during any events [or games]. The players involved will be banned, and the commentators involved will be immediately terminated from any official business. Also, we will protect [or safeguard] our national dignity [or honor]."
As a season ticket holder to a football team, yeah, the 20 minutes or so before a game feel like attending the church of America.
Hey did you ever hear the story of the American Prison Industrial Complex?On one hand, I get this from League. It's a sporting event, and it's not like League is the NFL where they court the jingoistic stuff. To my knowledge, they and most other esports leagues have veered away from any forms of patriotism or political messages.
On the other hand, I don't think we should even be doing as much business as we are with a country like China that represses, jails, and kills so many of it's people in the regular.
As much as I partially agree with you, this is whataboutism (and as far as I know, USA prisons don't harvest organs from prisoners).Hey did you ever hear the story of the American Prison Industrial Complex?
Hey did you ever hear the story of the American Prison Industrial Complex?
Oh cool. That thing where we ignore the evils of the world because of other evils.Hey did you ever hear the story of the American Prison Industrial Complex?
Why were Riot celebrating Pride month if these sensitive subjects have no place in esports?
I agree that whataboutism is a poor argument, but it does point out hypocrisies and double standards. No?
(I'm not super adept at this type of argumentation, so please don't eviscerate me. I'm honestly asking)
Only if they are both happening at the same time. Otherwise it's just a lazy way of saying "this doesn't really matter".I agree that whataboutism is a poor argument, but it does point out hypocrisies and double standards. No?
(I'm not super adept at this type of argumentation, so please don't eviscerate me. I'm honestly asking)
It doesn't? Why not?
Agreed totallyOnly if they are both happening at the same time. Otherwise it's just a lazy way of saying "this doesn't really matter".
If both are happening concurrently it can be a valid point. But only in the sense that it makes the other side evil too. Never in a manner that makes the actions ok.
Thank you for your attention in the past one week, this is a personal statement and my view on Blizzard's latest decision. First of all, I'm grateful for Blizzard reconsidering their position about my ban. Earlier this week, I told media that I knew I might have penalty or consequence for my act, because I understand that my act could take the conversation away from the purpose of the event. In the future, I will be more careful on that and express my opinions or show my support to Hong Kong on my personal platforms.
Many people has been asking me if I accept the latest decision of Blizzard, I will discuss that on two parts. Tournament prizing and suspension. For tournament prizing, I quoted what Blizzard said on the official website, they mention that I played fair in the tournament and they believe I should receive my prizing. This is the part I really appreciate, Blizzard also said they understand for some this is not about the prize, but perhaps for others it is disrespectful to even discuss it. People from Blizzard had explained this to me through a phone call and I really appreciate that and I accept their decision on this part.
For second part about the suspension, Blizzard had changed their suspension on me from a year to six months. Once again, I appreciate for their reconsideration on this. To be honest, I think six months is still quite a lot to me. But I also being told that I can continue to compete in the hearthstone pro circuit which they mean the grandmaster tournament. I appreciate for this decision they made because grandmaster is currently the highest level tournament in competitive hearthstone. However, I wish Blizzard can reconsider about their penalty on the two casters involved.
Lastly, many people wants to know if i would be competing in hearthstone in the future. Honestly, I have no idea on that yet. Since my next tournament is very likely to be the grandmaster tournament of next season, it's probably at least a few months from now on. I will take this time to relax myself to decide if I am staying in competitive hearthstone scene or not.
Hearthstone changed my the way I live, I really love this community. Blessing to all the players out there, and blessing to Blizzard.
Good, classy response. Some people will have a problem that he isn't more outraged probably, or wish he didn't accept the money. Really tough decision.
Really? "Both sides"ing it?It would only really be whataboutism if I was excusing oppression in China, because there is also oppression in America. Actually I think both are bad.
OK sorry America Good China Bad.
As bad as US is, in particular at this very moment in history where it seems like US democracy is pushed to the brink by things like corruption and inhumane treatment of children, it surely pales compared to China committing genocide. Heck, even what happens in Hong Kong is nothing compared to that.
International Olympic Committee (IOC) president Avery Brundage deemed it to be a domestic political statement unfit for the apolitical, international forum the Olympic Games were intended to be. In response to their actions, he ordered Smith and Carlos suspended from the US team and banned from the Olympic Village. When the US Olympic Committee refused, Brundage threatened to ban the entire US track team. This threat led to the expulsion of the two athletes from the Games.[11]1968 Olympics fits the bill: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Olympics_Black_Power_salute
Of course it isn't bad to target political stances. What I'm saying is that no matter the company or their political orientation it is understandable that they would strive to keep their events free of controversy, especially current, volatile topics. There are obviously certain things that would be more accepted than others(global warming talk, etc). This one is obviously one to stay away from, and issueing a ban isn't opposing the player's views, and I don't see blizzard pushing opposing propaganda in general.
If someone spoke of the horrors of the Nazi's etc. during their interview and were banned, I wouldn't necessarily see that as the event hosts supporting Nazism.
The US is actively committing genocide. Let's be clear about that.As bad as US is, in particular at this very moment in history where it seems like US democracy is pushed to the brink by things like corruption and inhumane treatment of children, it surely pales compared to China committing genocide. Heck, even what happens in Hong Kong is nothing compared to that.
Hong Kong just happens to get the attention right now, and that is fine. We should be happy that some of the many terrible events in the world is getting some of the attention it deserves, rather than cry that it is unfair - even if it actually is.
1968 Olympics fits the bill: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Olympics_Black_Power_salute
Hey did you ever hear the story of the American Prison Industrial Complex?
To disingenuously deflect from the issue at hand.
Why were Riot celebrating Pride month if these sensitive subjects have no place in esports?
I knew he supported the salute, but I never new what happened to him afterwards. Fuck. :(Fun fact: there are parallels between the treatment of the third place finisher, Australian runner Peter Norman and the present situation. It's a common myth that Norman was opposed to the BP salute when he was a staunch supporter and suggested the black gloves.
Norman was rejected for the following Olympic games and shunned by the Australian Olympic Committee, allegedly, all the way up until the year 2000 - effectively killing his professional athletic career. It was only after his death that the Australian parliament formally apologised for his treatment in 2012.
As a season ticket holder to a football team, yeah, the 20 minutes or so before a game feel like attending the church of America.
Why were Riot celebrating Pride month if these sensitive subjects have no place in esports?