It's a fun enough game so I hope it carves out a large enough niche that it gets long term support.
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Bleeding Edge Review Thread
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Given how Gears 5 has faired multiplayer-wise and that launched on Game Pass too, I wouldn't hold my breath.
Enjoying this a lot more than I thought. Does feel like it's arriving with almost zero fanfare but it feels good.
Also the OST is awesome.
Also the OST is awesome.
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I know, why I used "strategy". But as you said RL was at the right time, right place more than it was a marketing masterstroke, as we've seen many games not do anywhere even remotely as well going for that strategy, instead of using more traditional marketing.
Surprised they don't seem to have even used (what I consider decent marketing) some sponsored Twitch streams from a bunch of the bigger streamers much at all (looking at Twitch ATM there's only 1 big streamer streaming it and not in English), to really get it out there, this type of game + the "free" strategy (especially) go very well together, which they saw firsthand with Sea of Thieves.
This sounds very much like a project they worked on, they knew it was close to being done, Microsoft injected a TAD bit more money and a TAD bit more workers, then they released it to game pass. If people responded to it, GREAT, but it's not a worthwhile investment. That's what I think MS thought.
I want to like this. Multiplayer games just aren't my thing anymore, especially team focused ones. Great art and character animation, though.
The credits list 37 people as part of the main dev team for it. With some more outsourcing.
In today's day and age, I wouldn't trust any numbers that are being thrown around so easily.
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The Bleeding Edge of multiplayer design
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The game was majority around 15-25 people throughout dev based off of words from devs Iirc, it obviously got more people near the end and ish. Either way, small team made the game and it's fun. :)
- Review codes were available a bit earlier
- The review is "in progress"
- It was possible to extensively play the game for some weeks now
As a non-action games player (zero experience playing this kind of games) the game was pretty good at explaining how it worked and the ideas are good.
I didn't really like the combat mechanics (the addition of a parry on this last beta was a godsend) and I think the characters are pretty innovative, I just don't see the magic in this teamgames. It feels infuriating to me to NEED your team to win when your team is a bunch of random people. I feel games like league of legends and Dota still have a great level of individual skill that allow you to "carry". That doesn't exist here.
I didn't really like the combat mechanics (the addition of a parry on this last beta was a godsend) and I think the characters are pretty innovative, I just don't see the magic in this teamgames. It feels infuriating to me to NEED your team to win when your team is a bunch of random people. I feel games like league of legends and Dota still have a great level of individual skill that allow you to "carry". That doesn't exist here.
I really like this game. I'm not surprised to see mediocre reviews, it's not groundbreaking, but it is balanced. If you approach it like a team chess match, you can have great success. Every person has to play their role.
I also see a lot of complaints about players "running straight into a fight solo" and disregarding the team dynamic. It's a valid complaint, but I gotta say sometimes if I am playing a tank, I'll go tromping off to 1v2 people across the map so the rest of my team can play the objective. I may only buy a few seconds but they are precious seconds, play the objective people!
I also see a lot of complaints about players "running straight into a fight solo" and disregarding the team dynamic. It's a valid complaint, but I gotta say sometimes if I am playing a tank, I'll go tromping off to 1v2 people across the map so the rest of my team can play the objective. I may only buy a few seconds but they are precious seconds, play the objective people!
Give it a shot, I found the game to be surprisingly fun. I could see it definitely maintaining a moderate, dedicated player base, especially if they follow up with regular updates.
The combat mechanics are simple, something I worried about until I played it and realized it's much more about teamplay and strategy. I'm sure that will turns some people off, but the game is legit a great time, and has a lot of depth overall. There's a lot to come back for, especially since there's nothing quite like it. It does what Anarchy Reigns failed at, imo.
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Frustrating that we live in an age where everyone has to aggressively defend a game from any and all critques. The defense force for this game in this thread alone is a bit ridiculous.
The beta was a bit mediocre, though to be clear I'm not the biggest arena shooter player. It was fun a few rounds, but visually it feels like a hyper focused generic mishmash, which is not how earlier NT games have felt aesthetically.
I'm also a bit disappointed by the lack of marketing for the game. I wonder why MS isn't doing more to bolster the work of one of their new studios (aside from Hellblade 2 at TGA).
Unfortunately this game has not caught attention the same way, and as someone else has pointed out Gears 5 also launched on Gamepass but has not set the world on fire.
The beta was a bit mediocre, though to be clear I'm not the biggest arena shooter player. It was fun a few rounds, but visually it feels like a hyper focused generic mishmash, which is not how earlier NT games have felt aesthetically.
I'm also a bit disappointed by the lack of marketing for the game. I wonder why MS isn't doing more to bolster the work of one of their new studios (aside from Hellblade 2 at TGA).
It was actually the two betas and resulting media that made the word of mouth and mindshare so huge. The game was downright addictive, and then coming to PS+ meant a lot of people could obtain it that way.
Unfortunately this game has not caught attention the same way, and as someone else has pointed out Gears 5 also launched on Gamepass but has not set the world on fire.
Regarding the reviews, I can certainly see this end up being mid 70s.
The core game design is easily an 8+, but I could see some docking points for "lack of content", even with the lower price tag.
The core game design is easily an 8+, but I could see some docking points for "lack of content", even with the lower price tag.
Game's very fun, but the package is a bit too light. Need more modes ASAP. Looking forward to seeing this evolve.
Gears 5 has a pretty high bar of entry for its MP. If you didn't start with Gears 1 or even Gears 2, and this is your first Gears, it's not easy to jump in and just play. It plays different than many other TPS (Uncharted, Fort Nite, PUBG, etc). Like it's gonna take time and effort for someone to learn wall slide and bouncing.
In short, it's not newcomer friendly.
Ive played a bit of Bleeding Edge and it seems pretty friendly and the tutorials explain things well.
Maybe it turns out like Gears 5, or maybe it turns out like a Sea of Thieves, a game which has added plenty of content since launch and is in the top 20 most played games on Xbox atm.
Gamepass only ensures a initial audience for the game, the game still has to keep them attracted.
Unfortunately for gears 5, the constant server issues (and other changes perhaps not resonating with the fan base?) made people drop it really fast.
Server issues, ubiquity of bots (which are terribly stupid), and paltry map selection is what turned me off. Too bad, because I was addicted to it for the first few weeks after it came out.
Gears 5 had a lot issues that still cause headaches to this day. Bleeding Edge has way less problems than that.
Jumping in and playing solo is just going to lead to frustration if people aren't playing their roles properly. They should advertise the look for group on the main menu so you can find people who want to communicate rather than being stuck with randoms. Even if one person isn't playing properly it pulls the whole team down and makes matches frustrating.
Even so the matches I have played with people have been fun. It doesn't feel like it's meant to stick around for too long but I'll enjoy the time I spend with it.
Even so the matches I have played with people have been fun. It doesn't feel like it's meant to stick around for too long but I'll enjoy the time I spend with it.
I've said this before (but I'm not sure if I said it here lol) that I'm really not into playing multiplayer games, but I'm really interested in watching a good set-up team of people who are like... really good at slashers like JTB or something play matches.
I'm more interested in this game for Twitch than I am on actually playing it.
I'm more interested in this game for Twitch than I am on actually playing it.
It's a really good game. I hope there aren't a lot of negative reviews putting people off.
The combat seems kinda simple at first but there's a lot of depth there with not just how you time and combo but how you combine your timing and comboing with your teammates. You can turn the game around on a time if you pull off a really good push. It's hard, but you absolutely can. I like that a lot.
Main thing I would say is it takes a second to get used to. Idk how to describe it, but like it feels really good, but I got punished really badly the first couple games. Spending some time just playing around more in the really polished practice mode helped a lot and made me appreciate it even more.
The combat seems kinda simple at first but there's a lot of depth there with not just how you time and combo but how you combine your timing and comboing with your teammates. You can turn the game around on a time if you pull off a really good push. It's hard, but you absolutely can. I like that a lot.
Main thing I would say is it takes a second to get used to. Idk how to describe it, but like it feels really good, but I got punished really badly the first couple games. Spending some time just playing around more in the really polished practice mode helped a lot and made me appreciate it even more.
Low 70's seems like an improvement when it come to the lower end of Microsoft games. I'm playing it now and it seems fun. It's kinda impressive this was done by 12 or so people.
YES. The OST is really good.
It's odd because like, I feel like, I shouldn't like it? I guess? Maybe I'm just not as into the style normally?
But it's good. It's really really good, and it honestly enhances the game for me.
Also the sound design in general is just really nice.
Especially considering the polish. There are so many tiny little QOL options and accessibility settings that a lot of developers neglect. I was kinda blown away. It's really detailed. There's clearly a lot of care put into this game.
Yeah, I'll give it a shot. Seems like the perfect podcast game tbh. Best of luck to everyone at NT. Game seems really polished for the scale of the team.
It can be, although it's a bit hard to solo. But if you're good at playing around randoms you'll have a good time.
Playing with a team that knows how to rip and tear is pretty fun. But it can just kinda snowball because I think this game is taking a lot of people a bit to figure out.
Played the beta on Gamepass and didn't enjoy it.GP is this games saving grace because if NT released this themselves normally it would have bombed hard.
People literally do this all the time? Though I wonder how you think it would be otherwise...
Bingo. I play Daemon and I play stealth to capture objectives, stealthily drop power cells and put enemies doing massive damage to my team to sleep. I'm not fighting 24/7
You're imagining things. There's already far more posts declaring that the game is DOA and bound for mediocrity all based around barely two reviews in a review thread on the first page alone, and a handful of posters expressing their enjoyment even while acknowledging its shortcomings does not constitute a defense force. I myself have no personal interest in this game or multiplayer games in general but a spade is a spade and this post of yours is just way off the mark.
Do people realize that a '7' is still considered a 'good' review and not 'mediocre' as is being proclaimed here?
With the scale media critics use a flat 7 is basically mediocre these days.
every single multiplayer game at launch is basically mediocre then
and they aren't, btw