"African-American" doesn't work for all black people though...
What if the guy is from Brazil, or the Caribbean, or France, or UK. Etc...
Black people live all over. The term African-American requires too many assumptions, it's way overused.
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"Blacks at Xbox" - Incredibly tone-deaf? (Update: Xbox Communication Manager explains)
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"African-American" doesn't work for all black people though...
What if the guy is from Brazil, or the Caribbean, or France, or UK. Etc...
Black people live all over. The term African-American requires too many assumptions, it's way overused.
I never get this... Why would you call people who have no connection to Africa in the last 200+ years of ancestry, African? Why is this only with black people? Why is it normal to call non black people with family that came to America less than 100 years ago just American? Black has always seemed like it made more sense than anything else. When I hear African-American I think of the many African's that immigrated to the US not black people even though it is used that way to talk about all darker people even if they are from France,England, Dominican republic etc.
Have you ever wondered why European decent people never have this issue or confusion on what to call themselves or where they come from? I'll just leave it that.
Ahhh ADOS. Boy do i have words for that group. It's like you guys self defeat yourself without even trying.
As if we needed to be divided more that we already are.
So you do know you come from Africa and that it's because of the slave trade why we're all over the place.
Saying you don't feel African and that you're black makes zero sense. Sorry. Doesn't matter what you feel, that's what are. Why even separate the two.
Well it's mostly just reaction gifs and pics, so not that insightful really. I just initially thought this discussion was going on mainly in Era, but seems like plenty of people are having issues with it.
Edit: There seems to be some console war shit going on too.
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Glad I'm not the only black person that thinks this isn't as bad as people are making it out to be. I've never heard anyone say afro American, it usually just black. Usually saying African American sounds awkard and forced when black is just easier.
Nah you gotta do it right... Bump that big daddy Kane and De LA soul
I love Kane and De La too, but don't front on Brand Nu.
Lmao don't talk back!
Haha, who are you talking to like I'm your daughter?
Europeans? they don't have that issue because they weren't fucking stolen from their goddamn homes and enslaved in a foreign land. It's easy to track your ancestry when you willing leave a country and have relatives there than know where the fuck you went.
I'm black because that's all I can be. The rest was stolen from me.
Alright then 2. I can't hate out of respect for the great Earvin though.
Unfortunate phrasing going by the reaction in this thread. I totally get why they wouldn't think to do it, but probably would've been better if it was something like:
Other than the phrasing I feel like it makes sense to go with the name if that's what the black people of the group wanted to go with. If it's actually really offensive to other black people then I guess a discussion should be had about it, but it should probably be with the group itself, though I don't really get how that would be arranged.
I mean I guess it wouldn't make sense if you never had the European beaten out of you.
No we are Americans who are black you may be African American but we aren't I don't know anything about Africa or relate to people from Africa I just know a lot of them don't like Africa to much either since they do anything in their power to get over here to America.
Because those people wanted to come here willingly, to seek opportunities. Africans were enslaved and made to come here as slaves... I dont know where you're from (you cant be American) but the ramifications are still present to this day. And even throughout those last 2-400 years, America never let's you forget it (not that I as a black man ever want too).
Most of my African friends growing up were taught by their families to not let themselves be called Black. People really want to associate with a continent(how ridiculous is that, a whole fucking continent) of people that want to not be categorized with us.
i've never wondered that because i know people like that who are confused about what to call themselves.
i'm of Caribbean descent and i share that identity with millions of others that also are of Caribbean descent. the majority of whom are Black, but many, many, many are not.
Blacks is the problem for me not black. If they said black people, black gamer, etc etc am all good
Congrats lazybones, someone actually managed to top your terrible joke.
That's not anything to fucking joke about. You can be Caribbean but that shit still ain't funny breh.
Nah, allow people to embrace who they are in the work place (and everywhere else). That can ultimately make a much better work environment for everyone.
we all came from Africa lol. And why don't we ever get this myopic in discussions about Irish-Americans or Italian-Americans?
Yet he still has the presence of mind to understand that 'AA' is what black people in America fought to be called.
What the heck am i reading. You guys are lost.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX0fwkf6Ayg
History stolen and dropped off everywhere but we are still African.
What about all their ancestry?
No it really isn't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX0fwkf6Ayg
Yes exactly.
History stolen and dropped off everywhere but we are still African.
No. We are Africans in America. You don't have to be connected to Africa culturally. It's in your genes.
What?
What about all their ancestry?
No it really isn't.
My genes also include blackfoot Native on my mom's side and- considering my racial features- probably some white in there too.
I was also born in Texas. I'm an American.
EDIT: Like... do you literally think black people can ONLY be from Africa? At this point I'm less angry and more fascinated.
This is so complex, like no matter what you do, someone is going to be mad.
Like i fucking feel bad for the people of that community.
They just wanted to create a community for themselves within the office, they wanted to share it with people outside of xbox and turn in into something positive and people are shitting on them.
Sure maybe there could of been an extra "," or two, but still.
Like i fucking feel bad for the people of that community.
They just wanted to create a community for themselves within the office, they wanted to share it with people outside of xbox and turn in into something positive and people are shitting on them.
Sure maybe there could of been an extra "," or two, but still.
I prefer "Black people" in general but if we came up with the name ourselves then it's fine. I'd have thrown the idea of "The Blacks" as tongue in cheek.
This has become a big thing on Twitter now because people don't know the origins and are calling MS out.
I look just like every other black guy but because of my ancestry/history, my DNA says I am 25% African Decent, 40% northern European and about 35% Native American. To be black is not to just to be from Africa because through all of the years of oppression and rape many people who consider themselves black are less African than some people who consider themselves white.
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Well I can only speak for myself and here it goes. I don't give a damn about what Africans think about blacks in America. It's how I chose to self identify, African American. I don't claim a tribe, town, or even a country in Africa. But I do know that majority of my ancestry originated in Africa and was brought to America as slaves. African American (IMO) is a term for decedents of US slaves from Africa. Blacks from specific country in Africa normally are identified by that country such Nigerian-American, Liberian-American, etc.,
I'm not just black, I'm not just American, I am African-American. I am the decedent of a people who survived unimaginable horrors of the middle passage, slavery, jim crow, and various forms of disenfranchisement. That means something to me.. That's why I claim the name.
Aside from my African Slaves in America heritage, I have West Indian/African (Caribbean) heritage (my great grandmother) and white (European American) heritage (great grandfather).
I'm not just black, I'm not just American, I am African-American. I am the decedent of a people who survived unimaginable horrors of the middle passage, slavery, jim crow, and various forms of disenfranchisement. That means something to me.. That's why I claim the name.
Aside from my African Slaves in America heritage, I have West Indian/African (Caribbean) heritage (my great grandmother) and white (European American) heritage (great grandfather).
Should have gone with "Xblax"
As a white dude, I wouldn't be comfortable saying "Blacks as Xbox". I feel like it's not ok for me to use that word, nor my place to say if it's OK or not. As a rule of thumb, I'd use the word as an adjective but not a noun. E.g. "Dave Chappelle is my favourite black comedian" seems ok, but "Dave Chappelle is a black" sounds wrong and offensive to me. Does that sound about right?
As a white dude, I wouldn't be comfortable saying "Blacks as Xbox". I feel like it's not ok for me to use that word, nor my place to say if it's OK or not. As a rule of thumb, I'd use the word as an adjective but not a noun. E.g. "Dave Chappelle is my favourite black comedian" seems ok, but "Dave Chappelle is a black" sounds wrong and offensive to me. Does that sound about right?
Black people working on Xbox: We should do a group to foster our community, let's call it "Blacks at Xbox"
Resetera: woo that's racist
I understand that as European, I don't have the same background regarding this than American fellows here, but come on. Stop making racist everything even when it is not, and try to just treat everyone well and supportive.
Is clear that a lot of black people identify as "black", stop implying that even the word black is racist, is not. In all my encounters with black people here, every time the word black came up always, was fine. I think to make a ruckus because of this kind of things only cause keep making a distinction between people because of their skin color.
Resetera: woo that's racist
I understand that as European, I don't have the same background regarding this than American fellows here, but come on. Stop making racist everything even when it is not, and try to just treat everyone well and supportive.
Is clear that a lot of black people identify as "black", stop implying that even the word black is racist, is not. In all my encounters with black people here, every time the word black came up always, was fine. I think to make a ruckus because of this kind of things only cause keep making a distinction between people because of their skin color.
Again it isn't the word black, it blacks. This isn't just a US thing.
Dave Chapelle is a black comedian, shouldn't feel wrong or offensive.
Yeah I just find it weird that why now and why with Blacks at Xbox. Thousands of people have visited Blacks in Gaming event at GDC among the years, I assume many of these people were black (atleast as speakers). Yet the name for the event seemingly wasn't considered very offensive since it never has been changed.
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