no no, you're right, this game rules
This is the best PSP game. Fucking fight me
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Black sheep games in a series that you love more than most people seem to
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Recently just finished it while playing the MCC. It's certainly weaker than previous instalments, and has some of the dumbest plot developments in the franchise. (The Forerunners engineered Master Chief and Cortana as a chosen pair to face off against the Diadect? What!?) But it's an extremely impressive technical achievement, considering it was engineered to run on the 360, it has some really slick and memorable gameplay moments, and the scenes between Chief and Cortanna had an emotional resonance that the franchise hadn't achieved before, or since.
Showing my age here but...
I fucking LOVE this game, I know Canon wise it's a side story to the Algol Saga at best but I wore my Genesis out playing this game.
The generational aspect of it was ahead of it's time, especially when a future generation would reveal secret stuff that happened a generation prior
For instance, Lyle, your friend and Party member from the first generation was revealed in the second generation to be responsible for kidnapping Maia, Rhys' bride, and setting all the events of the game in motion.
Epic quests for Legendary Weapons to defeat Dark Force, 3 generations equaling 8 different endings and still play it at least once a year via emulation.
Phantasy Star 4 is the clear best of the series and the perfect ending but I'll always love 3 equally.
I fucking LOVE this game, I know Canon wise it's a side story to the Algol Saga at best but I wore my Genesis out playing this game.
The generational aspect of it was ahead of it's time, especially when a future generation would reveal secret stuff that happened a generation prior
For instance, Lyle, your friend and Party member from the first generation was revealed in the second generation to be responsible for kidnapping Maia, Rhys' bride, and setting all the events of the game in motion.
Epic quests for Legendary Weapons to defeat Dark Force, 3 generations equaling 8 different endings and still play it at least once a year via emulation.
Phantasy Star 4 is the clear best of the series and the perfect ending but I'll always love 3 equally.
Assassin's Creed 1. Still my favorite overall in the series, not because it has the best gameplay loop or is the most fun to play necessarily, but because it was the closest to being an actual assassin the series ever got. I miss hiding in crowds and determining the best way to kill my target. The series has skewed sooooo far away.
I wanna say Dark Souls 2 and Metroid Prime 2 as well.
p.s. check out these threads for more responses!
https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-sheep-you-consider-to-be-the-best-of-their-franchises.339049/
https://www.resetera.com/threads/wh...red-the-black-sheep-of-a-series.151510/page-2
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ga...ack-sheep-is-your-favorite-entry.39788/page-2
https://www.resetera.com/threads/game-franchises-black-sheeps-that-you-love.237979/page-6
p.s. check out these threads for more responses!
https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-sheep-you-consider-to-be-the-best-of-their-franchises.339049/
https://www.resetera.com/threads/wh...red-the-black-sheep-of-a-series.151510/page-2
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ga...ack-sheep-is-your-favorite-entry.39788/page-2
https://www.resetera.com/threads/game-franchises-black-sheeps-that-you-love.237979/page-6
Resident Evil 3 Remake. So much of the stuff that was missing was stuff I didn't end up caring about (lone exception is the clocktower), and I think Jill and Carlos were the best they've ever been. And while I think they could've used Nemesis more (and better), I liked his implementation more than Mr. X in 2R.
Silent Hill: Homecoming
Sonic and the Black Knight also Sonic 2006
Valkyria Chronicles 2 (my favorite in that series)
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance (in that it seems to be the least-liked of the three Tactics games, but it's my #1 favorite Final Fantasy)
Atelier Sophie (I went in with very low expectations because lots of long-time fans were dissing this one and as a long-time fan myself I figured I would too, but it actually ended up as at least my 3rd favorite Atelier in the whole series and I liked the battles in that one a lot)
Are we considering Metal Gear Solid 4 a black sheep of the series at this point? It seems very divisive and I get why, but I really enjoyed it (especially more than everything that followed).
Sonic and the Black Knight also Sonic 2006
Valkyria Chronicles 2 (my favorite in that series)
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance (in that it seems to be the least-liked of the three Tactics games, but it's my #1 favorite Final Fantasy)
Atelier Sophie (I went in with very low expectations because lots of long-time fans were dissing this one and as a long-time fan myself I figured I would too, but it actually ended up as at least my 3rd favorite Atelier in the whole series and I liked the battles in that one a lot)
Are we considering Metal Gear Solid 4 a black sheep of the series at this point? It seems very divisive and I get why, but I really enjoyed it (especially more than everything that followed).
Is Fatal Frame III the black sheep of the localized games? I've seen people be pretty negative towards it in the past.
Again it has some issues, but I absolutely love it.
Again it has some issues, but I absolutely love it.
I love Street Fighter III New Generation. I obviously love 3rd Strike more but man there's something about NG's stages, music and UI that I love. It gets a lot of undeserved hate imo.
I like Bioshock 2's gameplay and story better than the other two games, which I think makes me an outlier
I think I'm in a pretty high percentile of Chrono Cross-liking as well
And the best Mana game is Legend
I think I'm in a pretty high percentile of Chrono Cross-liking as well
And the best Mana game is Legend
People always mention this as the "black sheep" but in actuality ...
^this is the black sheep answer
Assassins Creed 3!!
Love the setting and era and the coolness factor is through the roof. Hiding on a tree and then taking out a Red Coat with a rope hook is the coolest thing. Connor is such a badass with the best costume in the series. And you can actually use the Rabbit Snares (for catching small animals) as a weapon!! So cool.
Love the setting and era and the coolness factor is through the roof. Hiding on a tree and then taking out a Red Coat with a rope hook is the coolest thing. Connor is such a badass with the best costume in the series. And you can actually use the Rabbit Snares (for catching small animals) as a weapon!! So cool.
I am right there with ya. It was the first one I ever played and still my favorite by far.
One of my favorites in the series. A lot went wrong with Unity, clearly, but I admire the ambition to this day, and there were many things that it did well that are still worthy of praise. The way assassinations and customization was handled was also sort of peak into the future of the series that started with Origins. The co-op was really fun, and something I wish had lasted for at least another game.
Yes, I get that it is functionally broken at points, there are a couple legit poor design decisions, and that certain mechanics are not as readily apparent, but this game is much better than people give it credit and it was incredibly forward thinking for the genre by doing a lot of things that took other JRPGs years to catch up on.
Code Veronica is a good to great Resident Evil game; that's brought down more in people's eyes due to Steve being a real annoying asshole. Still holds up to me when I feel like replaying the series. Great environments, great villains, and characterization in the Ashford Twins, interesting story that at the time seemed like a big step up in the stakes as it reunited the Redfords and re-introduced Wesker to the series.
God of War: Ghost of Sparta
Assassin's Creed Syndicate is my favorite AC game
Also, Assassin's Creed Rebel
Assassin's Creed Syndicate is my favorite AC game
Also, Assassin's Creed Rebel
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This is a fun way to look at the trilogy lmao
As a lover of prog rock, I can see it.
And tbh, I love all the Souls games, 2 is just an odd fish
God of War Ascension, it trades with Ghost of Sparta for my favorite GoW game and I love the multiplayer.
MAFIA III is the best game in the series
DmC: Devil May Cry isn't as good as DMCV but it smashes DMC4
Mass Effect: Andromeda is fun as hell and doesn't deserve its bad rep
Halo 4 is a way better game than Halo CE and Halo 2
Final Fantasy XIII is one of the best games in the series, only losing to X. XV is also pretty good.
Assassin's Creed: Revelations is a great ending to Ezio's story and they actually tried to low the tailing missions or diversify them, contrary to Tailing Simulator: Brotherhood.
DmC: Devil May Cry isn't as good as DMCV but it smashes DMC4
Mass Effect: Andromeda is fun as hell and doesn't deserve its bad rep
Halo 4 is a way better game than Halo CE and Halo 2
Final Fantasy XIII is one of the best games in the series, only losing to X. XV is also pretty good.
Assassin's Creed: Revelations is a great ending to Ezio's story and they actually tried to low the tailing missions or diversify them, contrary to Tailing Simulator: Brotherhood.
Another vote for Dark Souls 2. It is by far the jankiest of the three games, but as someone who's less into the "git gud" aspect of the Dark Souls games and more into the exploration and weird, obtuse lore, I very much enjoyed cheesing my way through DS2.
Dragon Age II was almost universally panned by fans of Origins, and while it definitely does have issues like the lack of visual diversity of maps/dungeons and somewhat uninspired combat, the characters and story are really well done. Hawke is an interesting protagonist, no matter how you develop them. It got a lot of my close friends into the series as well.
I also don't actively dislike Dark Souls 2.
I also don't actively dislike Dark Souls 2.
I maintain that Metroid Prime 3: Corruption and Metroid Fusion are the best 3D and 2D Metroid games, respectively.
Honestly Dead Space 3 gets WAY too bad a rap. The first section of the game, in the abandoned flotilla, is absolutely awesome, and while the game goes a little off the rails by the end, it's still a fun, snappy, survival-horror action game. I really don't think it's that much of a step-down from the second game.
Are awesome, Suikoden IV is a GREAT game. It's part of my answer.
I also say Final Fantasy XIII. One of the best games in the series and presentation-wise it's still my favorite game of all time.
Xenosaga: Episode II. It's the best game in the trilogy, by far. Phenomenal soundtrack, fast and fun battle system, great visuals (especially in cutscenes), fantastic story. One of my favorite games ever.
Onimusha 4. Best Onimusha game by a country mile (though I still love the other 3 games).
Tales of Zestiria. In all honesty it's probably my favorite Tales game.
