What are you talking about??? racism doesn't exist in Europe. It doesn't, it just doesn't.I mean, Europe invented racism. I find it almost absurd that any European would think Europe is not racist.
What are you talking about??? racism doesn't exist in Europe. It doesn't, it just doesn't.I mean, Europe invented racism. I find it almost absurd that any European would think Europe is not racist.
It is 100% appropriate and will continue to be until certain individuals stop pretending it's just an american problem.Are all these "gotcha Europeans!!" really appropriate? A man has been killed.
Dude stop.Are all these "gotcha Europeans!!" really appropriate? A man has been killed.
Yes, racism was invented in Europe. Before that every other culture lived in peace and harmony. Europe like any other place on earth has problems, including racism. Also a big problem is the way people are looking at those coming from poorer eu countries.I mean, Europe invented racism. I find it almost absurd that any European would think Europe is not racist.
Yes, racism was invented in Europe. Before that every other culture lived in peace and harmony. Europe like any other place on earth has problems, including racism. Also a big problem is the way people are looking at those coming from poorer eu countries.
At least you're not Finland (I think we were #1 most racist country when comparing experiences of black people within ~15 or so EU countries)Sad to hear about this, fuck those nazi scum
Have no doubt, Denmark is a racist country
Maybe cool down a little bit? To my knowledge the statement from the Danish police was that they had no evidence to suggest a racially motivated murder. That is not the same as denying it. For these cases in Denmark in general the police will not publicly ascribe motivation based on people's looks (a tattoo in this case). If you do not want a more polarized society, then not judging based on looks is probably the right thing to do.it's mad that the Danish police can deny or even doubt there's racism involved. Why do you feel the media isn't going as hard on this? Especially as there is the current climate throughout the whole world of trying to discuss and understand these issues. Obviously it's racism and a lack of ability for the public to deal with it but is no media agency trying to be more activist in Denmark? Just take a stand.
Well if Denmark is anything like USA, thankfully comment sections and twitter do not accurately depict the views of the majority.I live in Denmark, the comment sections of various groups are flooded with Danes telling people to shut up about the racism angle and that people should just trust the police to do their work.
Oh come one. The history surrounding racism is bad enough without people actively making up lies.I mean, Europe invented racism. I find it almost absurd that any European would think Europe is not racist.
White supremacy, which is the culture of racism the world currently operates under, was indeed invented in Europe, all as a justification for the slave trade.Oh come one. The history surrounding racism is bad enough without people actively making up lies.
Oh come one. The history surrounding racism is bad enough without people actively making up lies.
And I'm personally tired of posts like this that make statements like "most white supremacists places on earth" without also providing a reasoned basis for that statement. On top of that I'm also not happy with the use of Euros - especially white Euros in a historical context. It seems neither of us get what we want from this type of discourse so let's improve it.Lol excuse me? White euros are literally the ones that decided to enslave and colonize the "new world". What the fuck is this post? I hope it's sarcastic and I'm missing it
Im honestly tired of europe/scandinavia being constantly lionized as some woke utopia when time and time again it's shown to be among the most white supremacist places on earth
Well if Denmark is anything like USA, thankfully comment sections and twitter do not accurately depict the views of the majority.
And I'm personally tired of posts like this that make statements like "most white supremacists places on earth" without also providing a reasoned basis for that statement. On top of that I'm also not happy with the use of Euros - especially white Euros in a historical context. It seems neither of us get what we want from this type of discourse so let's improve it.
Oh come one. The history surrounding racism is bad enough without people actively making up lies.
Not true. Majority disapprove of our president. We have a rigged election system that favors the Republican party. So they can win with millions less votes.Last I checked shit was still severely fucked in the US, thanks to the majority.
I don't agree with you and I find your view on this particularly destructive. There is plenty of racism in Europe, but I reject he idea that it is 1:1 equivalent with the American racisme. Plenty of racist aspects in Europe are affected by local factors and ignoring that by wholesale import of American movements, ideas and view on racism is so massively unhelpful that it is hard to overstate. At it's simplest a majority of the public will reject the notion of racism because the contextual framing applied is American and thus have a poor contextual fit for the racism in a European country.The only difference between Europe and America in regards of racism is how hard Europe is trying to hide it, but even then there are countries way way way more racist than America in Europe, a lot.
And I'm personally tired of posts like this that make statements like "most white supremacists places on earth" without also providing a reasoned basis for that statement. On top of that I'm also not happy with the use of Euros - especially white Euros in a historical context. It seems neither of us get what we want from this type of discourse so let's improve it.
Maybe cool down a little bit? To my knowledge the statement from the Danish police was that they had no evidence to suggest a racially motivated murder. That is not the same as denying it. For these cases in Denmark in general the police will not publicly ascribe motivation based on people's looks (a tattoo in this case). If you do not want a more polarized society, then not judging based on looks is probably the right thing to do.
Ok I understand what you are saying, can you please iluminate me and give some examples of the different aspects that are factors for racism in Europe and can you please let me know what are the difference with racism in America?I don't agree with you and I find your view on this particularly destructive. There is plenty of racism in Europe, but I reject he idea that it is 1:1 equivalent with the American racisme. Plenty of racist aspects in Europe are affected by local factors and ignoring that by wholesale import of American movements, ideas and view on racism is so massively unhelpful that it is hard to overstate. At it's simplest a majority of the public will reject the notion of racism because the contextual framing applied is American and thus have a poor contextual fit for the racism in a European country.
Not true. Majority disapprove of our president. We have a rigged election system that favors the Republican party. So they can win with millions less votes.
YupIt is true though, just look at the state of your country. White fragility, the complacency of the white majority and the will to fuck over marginalised groups if it benefits the white majority is what impedes all progress - both in Europe and the US.
Again, this isn't only about the comment sections, this is about the justice system and how the media portrays the murder.
Plenty of racist aspects in Europe are affected by local factors and ignoring that by wholesale import of American movements, ideas and view on racism is so massively unhelpful that it is hard to overstate. At it's simplest a majority of the public will reject the notion of racism because the contextual framing applied is American and thus have a poor contextual fit for the racism in a European country.
Lmao 'judging based on looks' is not the same as judging someone based on a white power tattoo and two Nazi tattoos, come on mate.Maybe cool down a little bit? To my knowledge the statement from the Danish police was that they had no evidence to suggest a racially motivated murder. That is not the same as denying it. For these cases in Denmark in general the police will not publicly ascribe motivation based on people's looks (a tattoo in this case). If you do not want a more polarized society, then not judging based on looks is probably the right thing to do.
Maybe cool down a little bit? To my knowledge the statement from the Danish police was that they had no evidence to suggest a racially motivated murder. That is not the same as denying it. For these cases in Denmark in general the police will not publicly ascribe motivation based on people's looks (a tattoo in this case). If you do not want a more polarized society, then not judging based on looks is probably the right thing to do.
There's a whole lot of gotcha to go around for how many Europeans blatantly lied on their countries' racism and extensive anti blackness for the last decade+ in black people's faces on the internet. Hopefully this shit can be put to rest now.Are all these "gotcha Europeans!!" really appropriate? A man has been killed.
It's just so funny to me how this keeps getting proven over and over again. This is a sad ass post.And I'm personally tired of posts like this that make statements like "most white supremacists places on earth" without also providing a reasoned basis for that statement. On top of that I'm also not happy with the use of Euros - especially white Euros in a historical context. It seems neither of us get what we want from this type of discourse so let's improve it.
Seriously?On top of that I'm also not happy with the use of Euros - especially white Euros in a historical context.
Ok I understand what you are saying, can you please iluminate me and give some examples of the different aspects that are factors for racism in Europe and can you please let me know what are the difference with racism in America?
Address your white fragility, work on it, it'll make you see things clearer. Your post comes across as one massive racist ass dog whistle.
Lol. Get outta here with that fragility. There's no racist/negative connotation (historical or modern) to that word.
From reading the articles it seems that the victims friends say that they don't see the killing as racially motivated.
Even with them saying that I find it bongers that the police wouldn't investigate it further as racially motivated and then conclude something later when looking at the killers view points, past and tattoos.
White supremacy, which is the culture of racism the world currently operates under, was indeed invented in Europe, all as a justification for the slave trade.
Plenty of people thought slavery was bad, through all stratas of society. Abolition has always gone hand-in-hand with the existence of slavery. The ending of slavery was a matter of the practice becoming economically untenable, from which then it followed that it was easier to make the moral argument. Because that's kind of how this shit goes; people gotta lose money first.White supremacy did come about because of the trans atlantic slave trade but it wasn't used as a justification to begin with because no-one (at least no-one in power) thought slavery was bad.
*Throws a cool billy to the LAPD*Plenty of people thought slavery was bad, through all stratas of society. Abolition has always gone hand-in-hand with the existence of slavery. The ending of slavery was a matter of the practice becoming economically untenable, from which then it followed that it was easier to make the moral argument. Because that's kind of how this shit goes; people gotta lose money first.
O i see, if you dont classify them as hate crimes that means Denmark has no racism.
Not sure if we're talking about the same study, but black people (Somalian to be specific) do trust police here less than Finnish and other language groups (Russian, Estonian, English and Arabic). On the scale from 1-10, Somalian's trust is at 6.8, while for Finnish speakers it's 7.6. Intrestingly it's clearly the highest for Arabic at 8.8. Though for every other institution like healthcare, banks, unions, media and education, Somalians have even more trust than native Finnish speakers. Also for politicians to do something good.The only way racism is different in our #1 most racist (out of the ~15 (mostly western/Nordic) EU countires measured) EU country, Finland, is that police don't generally (ever?) shoot black people when they are just walking outside their home picking up the post/returning home from the store in the suburbs, and as racist as we are on average, black people's trust in the police here is actually fairly high (something like 70-80%)! Otherwise it's the same systematic racism + violence from white supremacists/racists + slurs & other shitty behaviour towards POC in public. It might have some local flavour, but the underlying racism is still the same, and probably about as common (if not more so).
True that; I'm admittedly being too narrow.White supremacy wasn't justification for slavery, it was justification for colonialism in all of its forms (taking & sharing our Civilized High Culture to the Uncivilized Barbaric Others all around the world, while exploiting those Others & their lands).
Smarmy Europeans keep trying to act like racism is only an American problem. Ya'll better wake up.
Shit is digusting. RIP Philip.
It's safe to assume wherever you live is just as racist.Europe is not a single country btw, in case your stars & stripes education system has failed you.
That said, Denmark has always been a shithole of racism. Doesn't mean that "europe" is the same.
Given that:Oh, this is exactly what the racists in the comments sections are writing. Given your other "contributions" in this thread it isn't surprising to see you downplay the hate crime angle.