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Looks like it's not really a Birds of Prey movie, or not the one I was hoping to ever see. Oh well, maybe as more comes out it'll feel more like one?
 

cj_iwakura

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Oct 25, 2017
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The fact that this is based off of the Jared Leto Joker while another movie about Joaquin Phoenix as Joker is coming out at the same time is going to get pretty confusing.
 

Wingfan19

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm saying it now, this is just a backdoor pilot for a true Birds of Prey movie in the future. I know people will say, "Well what about Guardians?" And the reply is that DC still has to build up good will and it's a safer choice to attach Harley to this to get people exposed to other characters. Birds of Prey 2 probably won't even have Harley in it and will have Batgirl instead after she's been established in Reeve's Batman movies and/or has her solo movie first.
 

Hero_of_the_Day

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Oct 27, 2017
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I was hoping it would wow me more. But, yeah, just looks like more Suicide Squad. I mean, it will absolutely be better than SS. But, there is a large gulf between better than SS and good.
 

Ocarina_117

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Post on the last page reminded me

Katana has the GOAT comic book movie costume and you cannot change my mind.
 

Lord Fagan

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'm actually kind of happy with this.

Reminding myself that it's a teaser, and hoping that they're hiding McGregor's mask until the last minute like Two-Face in Dark Knight.
 

WrenchNinja

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Oct 25, 2017
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Why are they even calling this a Birds of Prey movie if all of the focus is on Harley?

Again, if the leaks are to be believed:

It's her in name only. She's the "street kid with attitude" working for Black Mask who steals something (dick pics hidden in a diamond) from him and becomes a target Harley Quinn decides to protect/mentor in her post- Mistah J breakup epiphany. Zero resemblance to the actual character who bears that name.
That is legit awful
 

The Last Laugh

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Dec 31, 2018
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Undermining Cassandra's strengths as a character by making her generic comic relief child just so they can push boring ass Barbara for the eventual Batgirl movie.

FUCK DC
Undermining her strengths as a character? Really? Child of a super assassin, raised in terrible circumstances and developed to be a weapon....oh wait this one is special because she is mute right?
Cassie is great but her story is all over the place
 

cj_iwakura

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Oct 25, 2017
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DC doing Sony a solid and warming us up for the Spiderman Cinematic Universe
I honestly didn't dislike Jared Leto's Joker. I think, like everything else in Suicide Squad, it was just disjointed and badly used. I think the original cut meant for him to be the villain, which probably would have been a much stronger movie. I hope they'll get another chance in the second movie, but I'm pretty sure that ship has sailed.
 

Zhukov

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Dec 6, 2017
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Eh.

Eeeeehhhhhhhhhhh.

Looks cheap and half-arsed. Kinda wondering why they bothered with the "birds of prey" part.

Awkward Extras and the fantabulous emancipation of one Harley Quinn.
 
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GungHo

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Nov 27, 2017
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I don't mind the "less costume-y", more "grounded" superhero look, but a visual queue that tells me who the fuck these people are would help. I can see where McGregor wouldn't want a helmet obscuring his money maker, but if you just wanted him to be the Joker, just call him Joker. No one is going to be bothered by recasting away from the other creep.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Post on the last page reminded me

Katana has the GOAT comic book movie costume and you cannot change my mind.
Her movie mask is excellent, especially compared to Arrow's
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But the "suit" is awful, i'd much rather have it more like
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At least in what was supposed to be a universe where the heroes look like
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I could buy that Katana costume in Nolan's or something.
 
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Deleted member 31104

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Her movie mask is excellent, especially compared to Arrow's
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But the "suit" is awful, i'd much rather have it more like
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I actually think the mask in Suicide Squad is pretty much the best you could do real life and be faithful. Suicide Squad had a ton of problems, a metric shit ton of problems, costuming by and large wasn't one of them.
 

Ichthyosaurus

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Dec 26, 2018
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Undermining her strengths as a character? Really? Child of a super assassin, raised in terrible circumstances and developed to be a weapon....oh wait this one is special because she is mute right?
Cassie is great but her story is all over the place

She's one of the top super-heroes in the DCU, with a unique personality.
To lose that would be disappointing.
 

ZeroX

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Oct 25, 2017
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Looks okay, I dunno. Maybe it's a reverse Suicide Squad where the trailers are bad, and the film is good.

When the cast was announced it was very obvious that Harley was going to be the lead, dunno why people are surprised there. It wasn't going to be a C lister team with an A lister cameo.
 

The Last Laugh

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I think people are forgetting that this was just the Harley Quinn movie as far as planning until they came up with the wonky name and added more people. This was always going to be a Harley- centric piece
 

Caz

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I didn't realize Suicide Squad 2 had its debut trailer drop so soon.
 

Gold Arsene

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Oct 27, 2017
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Can't say that did anything for me. I admit Harley's always been a character I'm very mixed on though. Also feel like fans of the oter characters may not like how much focus she's getting.

Is Ivy in this?
 

PlanetSmasher

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Oct 25, 2017
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Man. Despite being second-billed, Mary Elizabeth Winstead got absolutely no lines in that trailer.
 

Dommo

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Oct 25, 2017
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This doesn't look good.

You can't suddenly go from Suicide Squad's Harley Quinn, an insane villain who unironically and uncritically lives to serve and be with The Joker after being tortured by the guy to now framing this as some kind of female empowerment fantasy where "women don't need a man." Well I'm sorry, but you're part of the problem. It's cynical and gross, not to mention the trailer still hinges on The Joker.

Beyond that, framing a film called "Birds of Prey" around a single character for 98% of the trailer is a bizarre decision and doesn't bode well.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Trailer looked good, but I've liked most first trailers for prior DCU films - if there's one thing they're consistent with, it's that. Hopefully the movie turns out good.



Did it though? At least when comparing their trailers, they have the same tone:

That trailer just makes angry now
Literally one of the best trailers ever for such a PoS movie.
 

JayCB64

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Oct 25, 2017
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I squinted for a few seconds there and actually saw the Birds of Prey in that Birds of Prey movie trailer, pretty cool.
 

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Oh... It's really Margot Robbie's vanity project, isn't it?

As a comic book fan:
Reading about Birds of Prey, it's really sad Oracle is not in this, and that basically, they turned this into Joker's ex-girlfriend's story.
And on top of that, Harley is more like a caricature version of Robbie, or something like that...
Dunno, all of this might be enjoyable, but why "Birds of Prey", why "Harley Quinn"... This makes FoX-Men's films look like a 1:1 adaptation...
Why adapt the characters if they wanted to do whatever with them? They are not even popular characters anyway... Why not create new ones?
I bet Cassandra Cain's fans are gonna be angry.
And honestly, kinda awful they turned one of the few Asian superheroes and probably turned them into a sidekick/comic relief...
I want to say it: Yikes. I'm glad I'm not a Birds of Prey/Harley Quinn fan...

As a casual-casual movie-goer:
The tone seems to be all over the place. It doesn't make sense with the Harley Quinn we saw in Suicide Squad.
Looks like something to check out on Netflix. It reminds me of a Paul Feig film, which I often like, but here it could go either way as the above Suicide Squad example shows.
 

Cuburger

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Oct 28, 2017
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Could be good.

I thought Robbie's Harley had an accent that was a bit over-the-top distracting in Suicide Squad, so I thought she was fine, but not really a depiction I'd want to see as the center of a bunch of spin-off films.

Feels visually like it's still dipping into the Suicide Squad well a little too much as well. Also, I think I need a better pitch on the premise but I'm not necessarily getting the feeling that it's going to be bad or that I don't want to see it. Seems a little Charlie's Angels.
 

Brazil

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Oct 24, 2017
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There's not a single thing about this trailer that excites me. Eugh.

You gotta love them having the gall to name-drop all of those great actresses at the end while only Margot Robbie is on-screen, after giving each of the ladies like 3 frames of screen time throughout the whole thing. Awful.
 

thediamondage

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Oct 25, 2017
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Maybe this is one of those movies where the trailer is really bad which means the movie is really good. right?

My only real exposure to Harley is obviously Suicide Squad and also the Batman video games, Harley was fantastic in those games and Margot Robbie should be perfect for the part, I just don't understand why the trailer is so ... boring.
 

Gundam

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Her movie mask is excellent, especially compared to Arrow's
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But the "suit" is awful, i'd much rather have it more like
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At least in what was supposed to be a universe where the heroes look like
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I could buy that Katana costume in Nolan's or something.

I mean it's all about resources right? Don't think Katana is super rich, geeky, or a 100 year old Amazon.