I wonder what will happen when Game Informer do the next round of 100 rapid fire questions with Bioware rep. during DA4 coverage and asks whether Anthem got a fair shake in the reivews. What other game will they place the blame on then....
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[BioWare] What is next for Anthem
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It seems people are (deliberately?) misreading the post:
BioWare has a (large...) team working on big structural changes to improve Anthem.
In the interim BioWare is still going to support the game with incremental updates.
BioWare wants to build trust with the community by sharing things that the community can immediately engage with.
Since long-term changes aren't done, BioWare doesn't want to promise things that aren't fully fleshed out.
BioWare has a (large...) team working on big structural changes to improve Anthem.
In the interim BioWare is still going to support the game with incremental updates.
BioWare wants to build trust with the community by sharing things that the community can immediately engage with.
Since long-term changes aren't done, BioWare doesn't want to promise things that aren't fully fleshed out.
Yeah, especially if it's Anthem: The Taken King or Anthem: A Realm Reborn where they learn a shitton from what went wrong with the initial release.
This is 100% my take. We'll get some events in the free-roam mode and maybe a special vendor or new currency, but likely this is the end of large-scale story content.
Clearly the Cataclysm was being worked on pre-launch and was supposed to set up a storyline to humanize the Dominion leadership and build towards something that would be world-altering at the end of year one. Now we'll get a grabbit themed Easter event and some challenges.
Oh, yeah, Anthem totally feels like there's a large team working on it.
If you can't even talk in general terms about the upcoming changes, you shouldn't be talking about them at all. Or, more likely, they aren't the substantial changes players are hoping for. BFV is going through this same thing and it too is a failed EA live service game.
I just feel so bad for the team working on this game. Didn't they pivot the montreal folks and give this to austin like they did SWTOR? Or am I remembering that completely wrong?
Well, they either let the game die or they work hard to improve it and bring players back. After No Man's Sky's complete turn-around, I think no game is doomed after a messy launch. And I think devs and publishers can see that way too.
Edmonton developed Anthem. Montreal no longer exists after developing Andromeda (they were merged with Motive). Austin is handling post-launch support for Anthem. They developed the entirety of SWTOR, not just post-launch content.
But, yes, Edmonton is now working on Dragon Age. It was always the plan to let Austin handle Anthem after launch, since they have a lot more of experience in the area.
That's a lot of reading for very, very little actually being said.
You want to take them at their word and that things are actively being worked on but with that statement, it's hard to honestly imagine that being the case. How can they possibly turn it around when they know so many have left?
You want to take them at their word and that things are actively being worked on but with that statement, it's hard to honestly imagine that being the case. How can they possibly turn it around when they know so many have left?
Do we have any numbers on that front? Just curious. I don't play Anthem but I do love BioWare so I've never been completely withdrawn from hearing stuff.
Yep, BioWare Austin has been in charge of Anthem since launch.
People keep talking about No Man Sky and Final Fantasy. Nowhere during these respective games has the player base sink to such low numbers as Anthem did. Plus, they cant make money out of one expansion with Anthem, since they promised new content will ALWAYS be free. They have absolutely zero incentive to keep making new content for this game, instead, they are only selling cosmetics.
People are actually reading what it means instead of what it says. All the story content for the game was scrapped and any traces of it on all EA's websites are gone, and now the person in charge of the game going forward is saying that they don't have anything to say about any of that other than fixes and events.
People are actually reading what it means instead of what it says. All the story content for the game was scrapped and any traces of it on all EA's websites are gone, and now the person in charge of the game going forward is saying that they don't have anything to say about any of that other than fixes and events.
I feel bad for the developers on this team still, as all of the leads seem to have abandoned ship and left them holding the bag. I'm sure that not quite a fair statement to make but man, imagine having to issue THIS statement.
This statement.
That says basically, hey everyone! We don't really have any to say and definitely aren't going to announce any type of long-term anything... so... thanks!
This statement.
That says basically, hey everyone! We don't really have any to say and definitely aren't going to announce any type of long-term anything... so... thanks!
So...while I get the point you're trying to make vis-a-vis showing and not delivering being a huge concern that Bioware doesn't want to flub....
They literally didn't show off 'any' long-term plan that they have to revitalize the game Destiny-1 style, aside from 'we promise it'll be great, guys' - and that's not great for 'building trust' - especially with the microscope the game has been put under post-launch and what's come out since then in terms of negative press regarding the game being cobbled together and the fact that the public was sold a.....rather grandiose vision that didn't even remotely get realized.
Realistically, how long would you say that players should give the devs the benefit of the doubt for (especially in the Gaas day and age, where Anthem's updates have been....sporadic and from what I've read, largely under-delivering) for the 'Anthem 2.0' update?
Not to mention that Bioware itself doesn't even seem to have any concrete public roadmap of how to fix things?
Especially since this is the....what, 4th iteration of the same 'please wait a little longer' dev post that has been issued?
No Man's Sky is a great comeback story, sure... but it also was a glorified indie game made by a very small team on a very low budget that sold so well at launch they could comfortably work on content without fear of those funds being cut off. Anthem, despite selling enough to be one of the top-selling games at launch this year, didn't meet sales expectations. No Man's Sky's sales exceeded almost all estimates.
EA as a publisher, however, has a long and documented history of cutting and running on games and studios that are proving problematic. They have pulled support from better games for weaker reasons.
Not saying it can't turn things around (and I hope it DOES and proves us all wrong), but I won't let myself be optimistic yet. This update doesn't make me any more optimistic.
Thanks for clearing that up. Sorry for my misinformation.
I meant Edmonton I guess. See to me I remember the interviews that the Austin team tried to prep them for this and it was on deaf ears. But I dunno. Seems like you should listen to the dedicated team who does online games when they talk to you about online.
Thanks!
I mean, I can get not sharing long-term plans, but they're also not sharing short-term plans, apart from "we're still struggling behind the scenes to make the game worthwhile, we'll have more to share on this at some point in the even more nebulous future."
The game launched in February with a mapped-out roadmap. That was the long-term. People bought into the game with the idea that it would be good investment, with ongoing changes and new content. Then they pretty much immediately jettisoned the road map, and now, 207 days later, are instead still opaquely struggling to correct the basic gameplay issues that were immediately apparent on release of the game.
I mean, I enjoyed my time with Anthem, but I played it as a one-off single-player experience and that was it. It's going to take something amazing to bring people back, and that doesn't seem to be happening anywhere in the near future.
It's fair to avoid being optimistic about it and I agree that the comparison to NMS isn't equivalent. My point was that NMS brought a lot of players back, and even brand new players, after pulling off great updates that fundamentally changed the game. I don't mean to say BioWare is doing the same, but rather that they can also regain a lot of good will if they manage to do the same.
Yeah, the story reported by Schreider told that Austin tried to give a lot of feedback to Edmonton, but Edmonton kept refusing it, despite Austin being a studio that successfully launched a big online title. It seems a lot of arrogance was in play, since Austin was called the "B-team".
Do you know how to be transparent? Give us numbers, dates. You have a large team working on the game, great. Whats the team number? What do you consider a large team? When did you start working on it? Just throwing more spin and news that can be misleading is useless. This isn't the first game that has said similar things after a disastrous launch. As people have mentioned, it's probably a skeleton crew and thats what I'm going to assume unless they are fully transparent with us
they probably paid for some much server bandwith that they are stuck in a monstrous contract if they try and break that contract .
damn clown show. how are these the same guys that made the Mass Effect Trilogy?? ....Pathetic
damn clown show. how are these the same guys that made the Mass Effect Trilogy?? ....Pathetic
Remember when ERA was so sure about this game? Good times.
Also, ANY NEWS ON THE GOD DAMN ROAD MAP THEY PROMOTED?
EDIT: I ctrl F'd "roadmap" with no success. TY to the lovely individuals that pointed out the roadmap section of the article.
Also, ANY NEWS ON THE GOD DAMN ROAD MAP THEY PROMOTED?
EDIT: I ctrl F'd "roadmap" with no success. TY to the lovely individuals that pointed out the roadmap section of the article.
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Fucking yikes. The loading is about 1/6th of the time it takes to clear a stronghold.
Remember when ERA was so sure about this game? Good times.
Also, ANY NEWS ON THE GOD DAMN ROAD MAP THEY PROMOTED?
They literally said they are abandoning it in the OP. This is that news...
Maybe read the OP.Remember when ERA was so sure about this game? Good times.
Also, ANY NEWS ON THE GOD DAMN ROAD MAP THEY PROMOTED?
Remember when ERA was so sure about this game? Good times.
Also, ANY NEWS ON THE GOD DAMN ROAD MAP THEY PROMOTED?
They're "moving away from the Acts structure for updates".
Must be pretty easy to move away from something you never even really started.
And in doing so, have completely scrapped the previously modified update schedule that was released soon after the game's official launch. Shit, I remember one studio update that highlighted bug fixes as "additional content" because new content was barer than bare bones.
Yeah, they're called bug fixes and is literally a minimum requirement of a developer. Oh, and they'll update their absurdly priced cosmetic store every now and then.
After Cataclysm, what happens? What do players do in the interim now that large updates have been pushed back (again)? They need fresh and frequent content to keep this gaming from continuing its freefall. New content 6 months from now won't mean shit when no one is playing it. The grind to 30 is not worth it, at all.
Because they made that mistake when they announced the game, delayed it, demoed a fake vertical slice, and pushed the game out in Early Access. The studio can't possibly think fans are going to fall for this shit a 4th time, right?
