Yeah sure, there's absolutely no reason his mind jumped straight to Popeye's fucking chicken in this instance...c'mon
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Bill Maher's racist on Real Time again
- Thread starter Sweeney Swift
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"I know, I'll invite this guy on my show under the pretense of discussing border policy, but really just for an excuse to mock him for being a black republican and jerk myself off."
Even without the racist stereotype, Maher is such an insufferable dickhead.
Even without the racist stereotype, Maher is such an insufferable dickhead.
Consider the dual implications of Hurd's race and also collecting intelligence in the back alley of a Popeyes, an establishment and a fast food genre stereotypically associated with American blacks by racists.
It's either about Hurd's race or Hurd's targets.
None of them are a good look here.
As an italian I'll never understand how big was the influence of Birth of a Nation in american people. Though that movie was a technical marvel, it basically spawned a lot of shitty stereotypes (black men eating fried chicken like beasts is one of them) and made the rebirth of the KKK happen. Racism was a (BIG) thing in the USA, sure, but it's still crazy to think about it.
The fact that this was brought up again by Bill Maher, a person whose ideas I often truly share, is miserable and tasteless.
The fact that this was brought up again by Bill Maher, a person whose ideas I often truly share, is miserable and tasteless.
Right! Just like how can you call any guy sexist if they date women?
Bill Maher is trash.
More like Joe Rogan-types. People who think they're above it all and smarter than you when really they're the dumbest motherfucker in the room.
Come on, how can you be blind to the connotation of that joke? I'm not American and even I understood the meaning behind it.
Dude has some deep seeded racist issues he needs to work out if he claims to be an ally to black people. Even if, giving him way more credit than he is due, this was completely innocent - he should have the knowledge of racist stereotypes regarding black people.
But that interpretation just doesn't make sense to me. Because the joke is about him being there to gather intelligence, not him being in the restaurant eating. I just think he was trying to conjure an accessible reference to an establishment that might have a back alley. The joke here is not about black people and fried chicken it's about national defense threats lurking alleys. To read it any other way just seems like a tremendous reach to me.
And again, I don't really want to defend Maher here, because I actually do think he's lowkey racist, but I think people are straight up misunderstanding the joke he's going for on this one.
I'm not blind to the fact that making a reference to a black guy liking fried chicken is offensive, but I honestly don't think that's what he was doing here. He could have said "Burger King" and the joke would be exactly the same.
I don't get it, what's this Popeyes Chicken and why is this racist? Thanks.
..uh huh. As much as Maher would like to think, we black people aren't fucking stupid. Fried chicken was a dig at his blackness not some well thought out example. If I were to respond to a police officer telling me they were "searching for suspects" by saying "where at the donuts shop?" that would be a dig at a stereotype.
He could have picked any other cheap fast food restaurant chain but he had to pick one of the two that invoke negative stereotypes when referencing black people.
In time, he has to complain about people being too PC first.
Honestly, if he was trying to mock the guy's competence at his job because he was working on the ground, and especially if he used Popeye's Chicken as a way of doing so, that comes across as pretty horrifically condescending too.
Right and out of all the fast food joints he picks a friend chicken joint.
You realize a joke can have more than one point.
Give me a break.
knowing me my subconscious would be telling me "whatever you do dont fucking say anything about chicken", and then the chicken part would bleed into my conscious brain
But he fucking didn't.
You're right he could have been not racist but he wasn't.
How is this actually a defense of the joke, it's not racist because he could have told it in a not racist way? So even though he told it in a racist way it's not actually racist?
Do you perform for Cirque to Soleil? Because your contortion skills are incredible.
The fact that it's exactly where his mind went is precisely the reason it was racist, and that he is racist
In my opinion of course, seems clear to me though
Assuming this wasn't sarcasm.
There's a racist stereotype in America about blacks and fried chicken.
Popeyes is a well known fried chicken fast food chain, it also frequently attracts a largely black clientele.
I see we've entered the racism is quantum locked stage of the thread where people "argue" that a joke whose sole punchline is that this black idiot likes fried chicken is somehow not racist.
this reminds me of something that happened to me, i live about 50 miles away from a
and when i used to drive by it with the gf i would say "i didn't know we had a popeyes chicken here, that is a popeye's chicken right?"
No you see if Maher didn't refer to Popeyes and referred to any other fast food chain (except for KFC I guess) it wouldn't be racist, which means the joke is race neutral because Maher clearly just picked a random fast food place out of his mind and just happened to name Popeyes. 100% coincidence.
My dude, the joke is the fried chicken. The joke isn't that Hurd was in a back alley eating fast food. That's not even a joke. That doesn't make any sense.
"I was doing stakeouts in back alleys."
"Lol I bet you were actually just eating food! Haha, zing."
What?
The joke here is quite simply that Hurd is black and black people love fried chicken.
If it had been a Burger King or a Panda Express, would you say it is still racist? I rest my case uwu
If Hurd had been Chinese and Maher dropped Panda Express it might've been!
His intent isn't really relevant anymore. After the "house nigg**" incident, it's just painfully clear that this clown can't keep from stepping in the same pile of shit every time he goes out for a walk. The stink's on HBO at this point if they don't act.
The dude was doing the "can I touch your hair?" thing to Marshawn Lynch last week. He doesn't have any redeeming qualities and any real progressive learned to dismiss him long ago. The guy is a liability to liberals.
My exact thought pattern. Fuck Bill. Not surprised people are defending him.
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Agreed. He could have said "Burger King" or "a corner bodega" or something, and the joke would have worked just as well. But again, that's why I'm saying that the joke here isn't racist, he just happened to pick a loaded reference.
It might be a stereotype that he's trying to think of an urban neighborhood with back alleys and "Popeye's chicken" is the first business that pops into his head. But that's not about Hurd or Hurd's race as much as a general idea of inner cities, and it's also not offensive on the same level.
they were talking about men sexualy harassing women in the workplace by touching their hair, it had nothing to do with marshawn being black
that was the clear context of that moment, this one doesn't have any context, its just maher bringing up chicken to a black guy
If that's the case it's probably a cheap shot at him working for a organization that has a history with fucking black people and him contributing to it.
He reached over and touched him too. My black friends have talked to me about white people wanting to touch their hair or going as far to just do it without even really asking, it's at the least "diet racist" shit but in the context of Maher's past previous actions him doing that cements what people are saying about him.
Look, it's possible, and like I said I wouldn't put a racist joke past him because he's done it before, but in this case I think that reading so undermines the joke itself that it doesn't make any sense for me to understand it that way.
No it's not, that's some Olympian reaching right there. It's a racist joke it's not hard to admit when a racist joke is racist. There was a thousand ways to get whatever point Maher was trying to get across. Maher went of his way to pick the most racist way possible.
Maher is insufferable. I'd probably let a joke like that slide if it were actually funny, but it makes no sense and is just one of those weird, "Are you aware of what you're saying right now?" kinds of things.
It's not a joke that a comedian would tell and it happened to fall flat; it's a joke that old racist dudes would tell to each other at the country club and chuckle.
It's not a joke that a comedian would tell and it happened to fall flat; it's a joke that old racist dudes would tell to each other at the country club and chuckle.
I think it's that Hurd saying "back alleys" conjures an image of inner cities, and he's going for a reference to an inner city establishment.
So he's making a stereotype about the types of businesses in the inner city, and yeah you could make a pretty good argument there's a racial component to why that popped into his mind first. But I don't think it was a direct dig at either Hurd or his targets, as much as just his attempt to conjure a reference to a common chain in inner cities.
I said it was unfortunate for him because he clearly doesn't want this kind of drama. Dude clearly has a problem when it comes to race and his team must be pissed.
i dunno, maher also reached over touched him on the forearm throughout the round-table aswell
given that and mixed with the subject they were talking about it doesn't seem racially suspicious a moment to me, or rather not remotely as suspicious as the moment in this thread
You sound like your brain is struggling right now
"He could have said Burger King and wouldn't be racist!!!! But he chose to say Popeyes which is def racist so that's why what he said isn't racist!!"
Yeah I don't know that Maher *is* a centrist, but he appeals to centrists. He's a daring indulgence for people who wouldn't be able to get thru an episode of Chapo.