Bill Burr on white women (his SNL monologue)

[giallo]

Edit: And the dead silence at his "June? That's a little long" to the end when he brings the audience around is classic Bill

Click to shrink...

Totally. His schtick is putting himself in a hole, and digging himself out of said hole by the end of the bit. He's so good at it.

For the record, I love Bill, and thought this was pretty good. It came off as material he's still working on, and trying to iron the wrinkles out of.

 

[Spinluck]

The irony in all this is that white women on Twitter took this as an attack instead of actually approaching it on any introspective level.

Instead they attacked Bill (doubt he cares he's pretty much a shock/insult comic) for being a cis white man not realizing he has a Black wife that literally tells him this shit and checks him when he's out of line like all the time. Albeit, it's no one's responsibility but Bill's to educate himself over time but he's come a long way... For a stand up comic.

He still has to make steps in his LGBTQ commentary (seems that every old comic does) but on this particular issue he's not wrong. Yet, people are just covering their ears and shouting to avoid the truth.

 

[Dekim]

I never understood why so many give white women so much "credit" for finally seeing Trump for who he is and voting against him. Like, they help put Trump in power in the first place. White men who voted for Trump in 2016 and is now voting for Biden certainly would not--and should not--get similar benefits of the doubt. White women shouldn't get it either. Hell, if Trump was only a smidgen more competent, I doubt we would see the number of white women fleeing Trump as we are seeing in polling. Trump has been so disastrous that ever the racism and fascism white women liked about Trump is no longer enticing enough to cover his flaws--flaws that many, many people saw in 2016 but them.

 

[Ether_Snake]

I stopped listening to his podcast because sometimes the ranting is just too much, although I like the Bill Bert one, fun duo. But on stage, Bill is always a hit.

Longer bit from Paper Tiger

 

[IMCaprica]

The MeToo movement was started by a Black woman and got co-opted by white women

Click to shrink...

Co-opted by white women who immediately started going to bat for guys they're friends with who were getting exposed.

 

[Woylie]

IDK if I needed to hear another old dude talking about how much he hates "cancel culture," tbh

 

[Afrikan]

Sorry for not specifically on topic, but for those saying he was a bit more restrained on network TV, what's a good intro watch to get more of a flavor of him going full out?

Click to shrink...

Just start from the beginning of his big specials, they all go together.. shouldn't jump to the end....

but start with these small ones as well.. only a few minutes but man lol.

 

[Ellyshia]

The Cancel Culture bit rubbed me the wrong way, but I didn't have any problems with the White Women bit

 

[zero_suit]

IDK if I needed to hear another old dude talking about how much he hates "cancel culture," tbh

Click to shrink...

Who's been cancelled that didn't deserve it?

 

[balb]

Why is this cringe again? Was on point as far as I'm concerned re: white women.

 

[Lulu]

I wish I could rub cancel my normals onto white women culture

 

[nel e nel]

The irony in all this is that white women on Twitter took this as an attack instead of actually approaching it on any introspective level.

Instead they attacked Bill (doubt he cares he's pretty much a shock/insult comic) for being a cis white man not realizing he has a Black wife that literally tells him this shit and checks him when he's out of line like all the time. Albeit, it's no one's responsibility but Bill's to educate himself over time but he's come a long way... For a stand up comic.

He still has to make steps in his LGBTQ commentary (seems that every old comic does) but on this particular issue he's not wrong. Yet, people are just covering their ears and shouting to avoid the truth.

Click to shrink...

One of the greatest tricks that white supremacy has pulled is convincing white women to defend their gilded cages with ferocity.

 

[falcondoc]

typical boring stand up set.

 

[Blader]

The juxtaposition between this and Bill saying a minute later that he did not know about pride month until just now was something

 

[Rockets]

Hate Bill Burr but that was hilarious

 

[jaytothe]

if you want to start with bill burr, start with the Philadelphia Incident: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jMhoGUiIkk

It's a legendary stand up act.

 

[eyeball_kid]

I stopped listening to his podcast because sometimes the ranting is just too much, although I like the Bill Bert one, fun duo. But on stage, Bill is always a hit.

Longer bit from Paper Tiger

Click to shrink...

Some of this feels fairly misogynistic; definitely a different vibe and went to a pretty sexist place -- "Republican Presidents at least know how to keep their women in line" -- than the SNL monologue. There was no "I'm criticizing white women because they are stealing a movement not about them" payoff, just "ha ha feminism".

 

[Gwenpoolshark]

Click to shrink...

 

[A More Normal Bird]

Yeah, and they'll flip back in 2-4 years. I'll take the L on this one, I was not going for "white women are ok in my book" but yeah, it is what it is.

Click to shrink...

All good, seems like you know the score.

 

[Voodoowoolf]

Clown shoes. Absolute fucking clown shoes.

Not Bill Burr, by the way, but y'all.

Imagine getting mad at Bill Burr for calling out white women for their bullshit and "fostering division," as if white women need anymore protection and pearl clutching than they already get, just because he's a white man (who took credit for crimes against humanity in the routine, so let's not act like he was saying white men were not problematic).

Division between minorities is, in part, being fostered by white women whose activism begins and ends with misogyny and nothing else, because "white women voted for Trump too." It needs to be called out by everyone.

Second...he's just absolutely fucking right. Y'all will hijack a minority movement in a fucking heartbeat. It wasn't even a month into this summer's protests before we saw white women stripping naked at the police lines, as if any statement- no matter how valid- dealing with that imagery had a single, solitary fuck to do with George Floyd and police brutality.

God, I'm just fucking disappointed. Gonna work on my art and brainstorm how we can move Black History Month to July.

Click to shrink...

love your posts. spot on as always 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

 

[excelsiorlef]

It's too bad he opted to make this salient point sandwiched in between boring ass cancel culture complaing and doing a weird cis straight white man thing of pitting black folk against LGBT folk in some sort of oppression Olympics bullshit over history months.

Lucky for him white women threw fits on Twitter so everyone is just ignoring the rest of his monologue. Which is fine I guess because this point is spot on, but Bill Burr is a classic case of hit some miss some

 

[steejee]

He got me with the June bit, masterful turn.

I won't say the white women bit was perfect, but he was on the mark (and didn't skip out on pointing out white men were by far the #1 worst). He's also not the only person who's pointed out the co-opting of movements, but I can't think of any white comedians that have been willing to put that in their sets.

For a set that must have been toned down for SNL it was pretty solid, minus the cancel culture part.

Also the Sam Adams recorded bit at the end of the episode was amazing.

 

[Deleted member 7051]

He recovered quick, and now I want BHM moved to July next year. It's the least this country can do. Give me 31 days, you fucking assholes.

Click to shrink...

Here in the UK it's in October. Seems like a pretty good spot. 31 days long and the kids are in school to learn about it, too.

 

[Ether_Snake]

Some of this feels fairly misogynistic; definitely a different vibe and went to a pretty sexist place -- "Republican Presidents at least know how to keep their women in line" -- than the SNL monologue. There was no "I'm criticizing white women because they are stealing a movement not about them" payoff, just "ha ha feminism".

Click to shrink...

There's two sides to how Bill Burr makes comedy: there's the "he really means that" and "he's mocking his own personality". His bit where he wants to sink every cruise ship is an example of him just playing his character. He wouldn't be married and have kids if he literally meant everything he says.

 

[Nepenthe]

Here in the UK it's in October. Seems like a pretty good spot. 31 days long and the kids are in school to learn about it, too.

Click to shrink...

I like the July idea because, yes, having it right behind Pride Month would be swell. Black LGBT people get 61 days. Once again, it's the least this country could do. 🍵

 

[JonesiiiFromtheMoon]

He recovered quick, and now I want BHM moved to July next year. It's the least this country can do. Give me 31 days, you fucking assholes.

Click to shrink...

Shit, if they were really generous we'd get June with Juneteenth and all that.

 

[Nepenthe]

Shit, if they were really generous we'd get June with Juneteenth and all that.

Click to shrink...

That would be absolute perfection, but we were beaten to the draw haha.

 

[Deleted member 75954]

Where's the lie?

 

[Deleted member 39479]

The main problem with this particular rant is that it's extremely reductive to the point of being insulting -- that is the point -- and relies on misrepresentation, stereotypes, and the whole "someone has it worse than you" fallacy. It very much has the air of "White women need to stop complaining about misogyny; you're all just rich racists chicks with expensive shoes and SUVs; you have nothing to complain about!" If you're a "white woman" that doesn't have the privilege of a nice, upper-middle class suburban life, or the privilege of a never having experienced discrimination or misogyny, of course you're going to be pissed by that monologue.

Click to shrink...

I'm really not pissed, and white women who are pissed are exactly the white women he's talking about.

There's a very clear behavior he's talking about here - white women co-opting social movements as constant victims so we never have to hold ourselves accountable as oppressors. To make this all about how I'VE STRUGGLED TOO is literally doing the same thing - speaking over Black folks and especially Black women to make it about me and my struggle.

We don't need to remind anyone about our problems as white women - we've done that plenty, which again is the problem - and we don't need to "not all white women" this. If he's not describing you, it's not about you (that being said, this IS about all of us to an extent. White women can't just exclude ourselves from this conversation because we are marginalized in other ways - no matter how marginalized, we ALL experience and perpetuate white privilege and need to be held accountable).

I am not familiar with Burr and his jokes though, so I can't speak to that! I just think this particular point he makes is dead on.

 

[Yopis]

Loved this good stuff props to that guy.

 

[JonesiiiFromtheMoon]

That would be absolute perfection, but we were beaten to the draw haha.

Click to shrink...

True that, maybe we can negotiate something lmao.

 

[Pwnz]

I so want to post this on social media and call out the hypocrisy, but my wife hates it. She's hispanic but white hispanic so I think she took offense from it from the privilege perspective.

Barr is absolutely right here and like others have said it sure is curious that people are paying attention when a white guy says it.

 

[jerf]

It's too bad he opted to make this salient point sandwiched in between boring ass cancel culture complaing and doing a weird cis straight white man thing of pitting black folk against LGBT folk in some sort of oppression Olympics bullshit over history months.

Lucky for him white women threw fits on Twitter so everyone is just ignoring the rest of his monologue. Which is fine I guess because this point is spot on, but Bill Burr is a classic case of hit some miss some

Click to shrink...

yup. Infuriating in its own way.

 

[Gilver]

I love Bill, hes the best and the dumbest

 

[JABEE]

I remember when Dave Chapelle joked about this in his special and no one really commented on it.

 

[808s & Villainy]

I mean, white women at least aren't gonna vote for Trump this time which is more than you can say for white men.

Click to shrink...

I mean...hopefully

 

[Anti]

I don't hear any lies at all. They were also the primary reason why Trump won and they have already said they were going to back Trump again.

 

[rashbeep]

it's funny cause it's true

 

[Mona]

white women just want to be a part of stuff and not left out, they wanted to be a part of the oppression, and now part of the uprising, they just wanna fit in

 

[excelsiorlef]

I don't hear any lies at all. They were also the primary reason why Trump won and they have already said they were going to back Trump again.

Click to shrink...

No the primary reason was white men going en masse for Trump

White women fucked people over but your post absolves the dirt worst of their due

 

[Aizen-S-Kennedy]

Yup I hate when a bunch of White ppl celebrate diversity because some ppl added more white ppl to something.
horizon zero dawn
Tlou2

oh so diverse!!! it's just another game starring white ppl to me🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️. Not all that unique or special.

I remember being banned from the old place for being an uppity nigger who brought up the FACT that historically WHITE WOMEN falsely accuse black men of rape. White male mods weren't having that convo. So ban hammer.

 

[Snake Eater]

What did he say that was a lie?

 

[thediamondage]

Funniest part to me was how dead silent the audience was for most of his opening routine, and you could just "feel" that he wasn't vibing with the audience at all - and I know he and a lot of other comics actually LOVE that disconnect and thrive off it, he's talked about it a lot on podcasts and interviews. He probably absolutely knew his material wouldn't connect with the SNL audience and did it anyways, that is sorta interesting.

 

[Van Bur3n]

It is typical of white women to immediately prove his point on social media.

 

[Kinsei]

That's what I've seen people get up in arms about? That was both true and really fucking tame all things considered.

 

[ThLunarian]

So this white dude found a way to punch down in a comedy routine and get celebrated for it? I'm sure conservative comedians everywhere will take note.

Sounds like the Oppression Olympics has found its new official spokesperson

 

[supernormal]

Kept waiting for the controversial bit. You may not like his style, but he's making sound arguments regarding some pretty obvious, hard to avoid realities.

 

[JahIthBer]

The funny part about the black history month bit, is everyone is ignoring it & focusing on the white women bit, which fits the joke even more perfect.

 

[xir]

i know almost nothing about this guy, heard of him of course, but never listened to his stuff, watched half of an F for Family, didnt like it.
Watched the 90 second bit, not funny, but some truth, but searching he doesnt talk about their support for trump 4 years ago? that's the lynchpin. Ddin't think it was that funny, but these points needs to be highlighted. lack of trump seems like an odd omission.

 

[Crossing Eden]

It's too bad he opted to make this salient point sandwiched in between boring ass cancel culture complaing and doing a weird cis straight white man thing of pitting black folk against LGBT folk in some sort of oppression Olympics bullshit over history months.

Click to shrink...

☝