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President Joe Biden on Tuesday will set a new goal of administering at least one Covid-19 vaccine dose to 70% of the US adult population and having 160 million US adults fully vaccinated by July 4, according to senior administration officials.

To meet this goal, Biden will direct tens of thousands of pharmacies participating in the federal pharmacy program to offer walk-in appointments and redirect Federal Emergency Management Agency resources to support more pop-up clinics, smaller community vaccination sites and more mobile clinics, the officials said.

As of Tuesday, more than 105 million Americans have been fully vaccinated, according to data from the US Centers Disease Control and Prevention, and 147 million Americans have had at least one dose of vaccine. Biden's new goal will require nearly 100 million additional shots in arms over the next 60 days, the official said.

The moves come as the Biden administration races to get shots in arms as variants spread throughout the country and threaten to derail the nation's progress in the fight against the pandemic.

After spending months focused on ramping up supply and distribution of the vaccines, the White House is now working to combat vaccine hesitancy. Tuesday's announcements are the latest efforts to build confidence in the safety and efficacy of the three Covid-19 vaccines that have been cleared for use in the United States.

Biden will speak on Tuesday about making access to vaccinations more convenient, supporting community vaccine education and local outreach efforts and reaching those in rural communities in the administration's Covid-19 response.

The President will announce nearly $250 million in funding for community-based organizations to hire and mobilize community outreach workers, community health workers, social support specialists, and others to increase access to the Covid-19 vaccines for those hardest-hit by the pandemic.

Biden will also announce more than $130 million in funding to improve vaccine education and information and to work on reducing health disparities in underserved communities.

Nearly $250 million will be immediately awarded to states, territories and certain large city governments to fund the next phase of their vaccine outreach efforts. More than $100 million in duding will go to approximately 4,600 rural health clinics across the country to support vaccine outreach in rural communities.

In addition, nearly $860 million in funding will go toward supporting rural health clinics and rural hospitals in broadening their Covid-19 testing and mitigation capacity in order to stop the spread of the virus.

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Biden sets goal of administering at least one Covid-19 vaccine shot to 70% of US adult population by July 4

President Joe Biden on Tuesday set a new goal of administering at least one Covid-19 vaccine dose to 70% of the US adult population and having 160 million US adults fully vaccinated by July 4.

No one knows the current state of vaccinations better than Biden and the current WH Covid task force, so I am hopeful that this can get done even with a high amount of adults hesitant. Lots of this goes towards reducing hesitancy, so we will have to see the effects.
 
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One Winged Slayer
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Sep 12, 2018
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Here's where we stand right now in terms of vaccinations:

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About 56% with one dose, so we would need around 85 million more people to get their first dose. Not impossible, but it will be tricky given the lowering vaccination numbers at the moment.
 

Armadilo

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Oct 27, 2017
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He should get the balls to make a vaccine mandatory for flying through an airport, embarrassing that it hasn't happened yet.
 

Newlib

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Oct 25, 2017
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He should get the balls to make a vaccine mandatory for flying through an airport, embarrassing that it hasn't happened yet.

There is reason to believe that trying to making this vaccine non political is the best way to increase acceptance. The minute you say it's mandatory you are going to have a bunch of people dig in their heels.
 

Boclfon479

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think getting the doses available shouldn't be too hard.

the hard part will be convincing both the people that are adamantly against the vaccine, and those that think "I already had covid, I don't need the vaccine" to get one.

Too bad the anti-vaxxers have professional idiot tucker Carlson to parrot false talking points and make them feel validated
 

Armadilo

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Oct 27, 2017
9,877
Also announce a cash incentive to everybody that gets the vaccine, New and those that already have it
 

Futureman

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Oct 26, 2017
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With Pfizer expanding to 12-16 I feel like this should be doable.

Like others have said, start giving some incentives if that's what it takes.
 

PAFenix

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Nov 21, 2019
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There is reason to believe that trying to making this vaccine non political is the best way to increase acceptance. The minute you say it's mandatory you are going to have a bunch of people dig in their heels.

Hell we've already seen people dig in their heels as is.
 

Bing147

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Jun 13, 2018
3,714
This is going to be tough with vaccine levels dropping as they are, but it can be done. We just need to offer an additional incentive to get people to sign up. Money makes the most sense. Do a new stimulus, doesn't have to be as big as the last one, but let's say $500.00 to anyone vaccinated or who gets vaccinated. That's enough to convince an awful lot of people.
 

Orayn

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Oct 25, 2017
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I hope I'm wrong, but I feel we could run out of people willing to get it short of 70%. Recent polls have "never" around 20% and "wait and see" around 10, so we land somewhere in the 60's if the real world results are worse than that and/or hesitancy increases. Yes, I know hesitancy is trending the opposite direction.
 

ChippyTurtle

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Oct 13, 2018
4,773
Question is the hesitancy from underserved communities that might be left out of the vaccine locations or is it based on fear of the vaccine, etc?

If the former, we can make it, the latter nah.
 

NunezL

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Jun 17, 2020
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I hope I'm wrong, but I feel we could run out of people willing to get it short of 70%. Recent polls have "never" around 20% and "wait and see" around 10, so we land somewhere in the 60's if the real world results are worse than that and/or hesitancy increases. Yes, I know hesitancy is trending the opposite direction.
Well the US already are at 56% with at least one dose, and vaccinating around a million per day, so a percent every 3 days. So 60% should come in around 10 days.
 

The Albatross

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Oct 25, 2017
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70% by July 4th is a pretty good goal to shoot for. A really good achievement while still being difficult to hit.

I'm open to an incentive. $1000 seems too large to me like some are throwing out (also dont' really know where the funding comes for that, and how you prevent fraud), but I think either a cash incentive or partnering with private groups and payign them to create the incentive can help too.

I tossed out in another thread a partnership with NASCAR. I know it's kind of a meme at this point, but I'd have to imagine that NASCAR fans are probably the most vaccine skeptical or resistant of all of the major US sports, but if you've ever been to a race before you know they're also the fans who will do ANYTHING to get something for free or reduced price. Show up at the race track on a Saturday and get your J&J shot, and they give you a voucher to save $30 on your ticket to Sunday's race, or a free pass for Saturday's races, or some other incentive for those not going to the race but just there to party, free Sprint race driver audio pass or something. 200,000+ people show up to these races, for the big ones it's close to 400,000+. Now hypothetically let's say 30-40% of that audience is already vaccinated, that is A LOT of people every weekend in particularly vaccine resistent groups, and those races are also held in usually more vaccine skeptical areas.

(although capacity limits probably make these crowds smaller...)

Question is the hesitancy from underserved communities that might be left out of the vaccine locations or is it based on fear of the vaccine, etc?

If the former, we can make it, the latter nah.

Mix of A and B, but generally the hesitancy in underserved communities can be broken through with good government, the hesitancy from anti-vax communities is almost intractable because they have a fundamental disbelief in the concept of good government.
 
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Tavernade

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Sep 18, 2018
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If shame and reason don't convince those last hold outs towards 70%, they could always do an ad comparing about all the fun stuff you can 'only' do because you're vaccinated. Make it trendy.
 

Real

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Oct 28, 2017
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If shame and reason don't convince those last hold outs towards 70%, they could always do an ad comparing about all the fun stuff you can 'only' do because you're vaccinated. Make it trendy.

They're already doing this. There's a commercial (with only black people in it, mind you lmao) that shows a family at a cookout after they all get vaccinated.
 

SapientWolf

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Nov 6, 2017
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But how would you retroactively give people money? I thought they weren't really tracking who got the vaccine in a large database
And people would balk if they would.

I think the best we could practically do is have businesses stepping up to offer incentives to people with vaccination cards. The government could in turn then compensate those businesses. There would be some fraud but it could still be a net positive.
 

Nepenthe

When the music hits, you feel no pain.
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Oct 25, 2017
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Nah, I want my check.
Yep.

Despite the deal with fake vaccination cards, vaccination of any kind requires stringent record-keeping, and patients are allowed to have print offs of their medical records. Allow me to send the government proof that I got this shit like the scientifically-minded citizen I am, so I can get paid.
 

Grym

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Oct 27, 2017
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hmmm...I don't know. Sadly I see this as becoming a potential failure without some sort of incentive and/or business/travel/work enforced drawback that twists the arms of the unwilling
 

Cat Party

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Oct 25, 2017
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Most of the people I have encountered who don't have any plans to get the vaccine aren't antivax or anything like that. They just don't particularly care to put in the effort to go out and get it. We need walk up clinics at grocery stores and churches and large employers and shit like that.
 
Aug 7, 2020
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Jim Justice (of all people) is offering people under 35 in WV 100$ to get the vaccine - retroactively too. Hopefully more states follow suit.
 

Armadilo

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Oct 27, 2017
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So herd immunity isn't real, then hopefully the mask mandate becomes optional in a couple of months
 

AwShucks

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Oct 27, 2017
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The fast drop in vaccination rate is quite concerning. We'll need reasons for people to get vaccinated (school, nfl games, etc). I do think we will eventually get to 70% but that target might be too soon.
 

SpaceCrystal

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Apr 1, 2019
7,714
The fast drop in vaccination rate is quite concerning. We'll need reasons for people to get vaccinated (school, nfl games, etc). I do think we will eventually get to 70% but that target might be too soon.

I agree. We barely made it to where 32% of the total population in this country had been fully vaccinated (106,168,588 people).