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Biden says he'll create a bipartisan commission to recommend changes to SCOTUS if elected
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It is already done. There is no reason to believe Biden cares about changing shit. We're riding this planet out until it burns.
The judiciary is lost for generations. I guess this is a handy excuse to have whenever the people get too aggressive in wanting healthcare. The Conservative SC overturning anything good is a good reason not to bother passing anything.
Basically what someone would do when they won't see the long term consequences of a conservative court. Hopefully this is just election talk, and he actually does something. But atm, I wont hold my breath.
People are still besides themselves with no candidate saying Defund the Police.
This all seems like obvious political posturing for me. Seems like he wants the "packing" questions to just stop.
The only thing that worries me is the 180 day window. That's too long. Cut it to 100 days and be done with it.
People should stop panicking for a second. This response is to 1) avoid the headline frenzy of "Biden says Democrats will pack the courts if elected!" just days before election day, and 2) to create a sense of apolitical legitimacy.
The judiciary's problems are rooted much deeper than just Trump's SCOTUS takeover, and Biden touches on how this commission would make recommendations beyond SCOTUS.
The judiciary's problems are rooted much deeper than just Trump's SCOTUS takeover, and Biden touches on how this commission would make recommendations beyond SCOTUS.
People think you can shout ACB and other extreme things (which I believe are true myself, I'm black). The thing is saying shit like this is political suicide. Just the state we're in right now. You have to play the game to win, unfortunately
Funny how we made this democracy to get away from kings and yet the highest court in the land has the job for life. The irony.
Probably because they didn't expect people to live this long.
No one likes Republicans, but if you don't have Republican votes for your bills, those are the easiest and most likely things to get auto-repealed day 1 of the next Republican President.
Because people want to shit on literally every answer he gives that isn't full on going hellfire on the GOP.
I'm reading it as this too but it's unfortunate that it could go the other way. Obamas term and the failed prospect of bipartisanship should still be a very fresh wound.
Pretty much, court packing has like a 30% approval rating right now, why the fuck would he come out for it before the election, let SCOTUS make the ACA illegal and come out swinging
Its not a bad non answer. He would obviously control who is on that committee and therefore control what ideas are submitted. He is still not committing to what he plans to change. I think he will need to add judges either way in order to make reforms.
Look, I'm an angry, Biden-hating socialist, and I basically never give him the benefit of the doubt, but this is extremely transparent.
Good answer to a no-win question right before the election. I'm sure he'll have to repeat it a dozen time in the next two weeks though.
Winning the election doesn't mean he's changed people (if he wins the election). Many people have been against Trump because he burned them in personal and specific ways.
It's not like a bunch of people woke up and said "huh, I'm really not okay with the dog-whistling today."
So yeah, he makes conservatives more comfortable voting for him because that's the kind of candidate he is.
Had Trump not fucked up with COVID, I'm not sure we'd be talking about a blue wave right now.
I can't believe Joe would say something aimed at not alienating a huge swath of squishy voters instead of placating a bunch of people who have their minds made up. Who's he got working for him, professionals?
180 days is way too long. If we get the trifecta, the best we can count on for sure is 2 years of Dem control. We shouldn't waste 1/4 of that waiting for a commission to think before we even start to act on the Court. What do they need 6 months for? It's not like Biden needs to be President to get smart people talking. Start now.
Weird how people who vote the Democrats don't want them to work together with the Republicans after the Republicans literally fucked them over with the two last Supreme Court Nominees. I don't get it either, the GOP is so trustworthy.
Sorry, I could have sworn that Donald Trump is the current president of the United States. Huh, must have been a dream.
Yea. In the debate thread, a bunch of people said "yikes" or yelled at him for not literally calling all cops bastards, or immediately saying he will prosecute all republicans or pack the court.
I just hope that the same people who are supporting him now are willing to admit they were wrong about this and will rise up and do whatever it takes to get change done when they realize he won't be packing the courts,.
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More like, you need to play the game to win the election? Do you not get why Biden has gotten so many centrist and moderate votes?
Yeah, no kidding lol. I mean, Biden has pretty much said that he's not packing the court anyway, just not explicitly because he knows the time isn't right to say it with the Barret stuff going on, but you still have people in very deep denial. I can't wait to see the spin when the election is over, if he wins and then explicitly says there will be no court packing, and people will still be stroking their chins, "I'm in awe at Biden, the master." I guess I understand, people want to cling to hope in a hopeless situation, but at some point you have to acknowledge reality.
Lol, you know they won't. If Biden wins, it'll just lead to more punching to the left and the same old right wing and moderate talking points until they need leftists/POC/Socialists/etc. for their next election.
Ah yes, the age old sentiment that ignoring the GOP and focusing soley on democratic talking points is going to win you the election really worked out for the democrats the last time.
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We have this discussion every election with these vaguely condescending takes.
To the people not happy with the answer, it obviously makes perfect sense to give repubs red meat to chew on for the next 2 weeks. Give them the ammunition they need to flood the airwaves till the election.
There's nothing wrong with this answer. There are certain things you cant say.
There's nothing wrong with this answer. There are certain things you cant say.
It didn't work for Clinton because she went for the "deplorable" play, which turned off people when she already (for whatever reason) had people not like her.
It already is done. You have 40% of the electorate that is not coming back which means you'll never get the numbers you need to make sweeping constitutional changes that are needed to save this country
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What last time are we talking about? Democrats made huge plays for Republicans in 2016.
What, you mean the 2016 election where Dems got on their knees and kissed Regan's ass while appealing endlessly to all those good ol' GOP who they knew were really good people or the 2018 midterm that was largely successful for Dems in focusing primarily on healthcare?
Calling half the country "deplorables" isn't exactly making a big play if we are being real.
He has been in politics for 48 years. Do you really think he is some visionary who is going to enact mass change.
All he knows is how to be a politician. He will offer a calmness after the last four years. I fear some of you are going to be disappointed in what he achieves
All he knows is how to be a politician. He will offer a calmness after the last four years. I fear some of you are going to be disappointed in what he achieves
Court reform can discuss that too, but reform in the House/Senate needs to be discussed also, term limits for all.
Will likely never happen though.
People really expecting him to make hardlined controversial commitments off of hypothetical questions two weeks before an election?
Y'all serious with this?
Y'all serious with this?
"yeah I'm gonna look into having some people look into it" fills me with so much confidence. Thank you Mr. President 🙏😭
Damn, and bipartisan too?? Oh thank god, here I thought beating Republicans meant we didn't have to get obstructed by them anymore. What a relief!
Damn, and bipartisan too?? Oh thank god, here I thought beating Republicans meant we didn't have to get obstructed by them anymore. What a relief!
This is a great way to answer this question and get the press to stop asking him constantly about it for a yes or no answer.
Now he can say look at my plan for a commission on court reform.
Done.
Now he can say look at my plan for a commission on court reform.
Done.