Will keep screaming this from the rooftops for the next eighteen months.
Biden is bag man for capital interests and we don't have the luxury of a few cycles to take issues like inequality, market democracy and climate change head on.
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Biden looking to announce Bid for presidency with pledge to have Stacey Abrams as VP
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Will keep screaming this from the rooftops for the next eighteen months.
Biden is bag man for capital interests and we don't have the luxury of a few cycles to take issues like inequality, market democracy and climate change head on.
So what? You think if u press biden about why he picked Abrams hes gonna say some bullshit like "i dont see race!"
This is ridiculous, to suggest that picking Abrams because of her demographic appeal is a cheap shot or below the belt blow. This is incredibly stupid. I'm all for it. Pick her cause she's black... and own it.
I disagree. Instant reaction polls had Hillary winning (at least) the 1st and 3rd debates among people who watched them in their entirety, but what sound bites dominated cable news for days and weeks afterward? "No puppet. No puppet. You're the puppet," and "You'd be in jail."
You don't need to sink to his level and respond in kind, but you do need to respond.
Loooooooooooooool
One of the most shrewd attempts at tokenizing I've seen in a long, long time.
she'd be a strong VP contender for any Democrat running, most of whom don't have Biden's baggage
biden owns, and is a much better representation of American imperialism and empire than Trump is imo
Brutal oppressive domestic crime policies, aggressive cheerleader for the worst excesses of capital, joyous advocate for foreign intervention, eager to work with the GOP on everything.
he's perfect. a diamond, you might say.
Brutal oppressive domestic crime policies, aggressive cheerleader for the worst excesses of capital, joyous advocate for foreign intervention, eager to work with the GOP on everything.
he's perfect. a diamond, you might say.
I agree, Hillary should have announced her VP in April 2015. That would have went over well.
And Hillary did respond! That you don't remember Hillary's responses isn't really an indictment of her (because, as you pointed out, reaction polls had her winning those debates). It's an indictment of a debate format and irresponsible media where the person who says the dumbest, most outlandish thing will dominant the media's obsessive coverage. And that will always be Trump. Hell, as we saw in the debates in 2016, if Trump thinks he's losing he will intentionally say the dumbest thing he can think to say for this very reason.
Did you read at all the full post you've replied to? Because I cleared mentioned his racist past and that's not a so WHAT type of issue to be brushed aside with.
This is an important point. There's probably more information on this, so maybe I'm wrong, but I always felt like the first year of Obama's presidency where he went to Congress to bargain with the GOP and generally tried to get their buy-in on everything was heavily influenced by Biden's advice.
Instead of taking the overwhelming mandate he had just received and using it to say, "Here's how it's going to be," he wasted time and political capital trying to be bipartisan with Diamond Joe's lunch buddies.
he's electable in a general election but not in a primary
and i'm willing to put my money where my mouth is. are you?
an avatar bet, if any of you are confident enough in your belief to take me up on it:
if biden gets most delegates for the dnc, i lose and get to wear a humiliating avatar for a month. if he does not get the most delegates for the dnc, i win and whoever took me up on the bet will have to wear a humiliating avatar for a month
deal?
america had been treating it like a "so what" issue brazenly to the point that black people maneuver around that shit now. Its a reality when you deal with a political elite that is majority white, so again I ask you... so what?
I don't disagree, but I'm not the one trying to present Biden as "not just another old white guy", as if that needs to or can be denied.
Fuck this scumbag
Joe Biden has touched so many children at swearing-in ceremonies. He always singles out girls from their families, and makes them pose in front of him.
Nope. I remember it perfectly clearly. She just walked over and put her mic down: https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000004701741/trump-to-clinton-youd-be-in-jail.html
I dislike this paradigm as much as you- but we can't wish it away. It isn't going anywhere. He's going to throw shots below the belt. You can't just shrug and go put your mic down, IMO.
Joe v. the field I'm still taking the field but he is absolutely a top 3 candidate no matter how badly you wish he wasn't. This bet is dumb, so no.
No no don't you see?
The source in question, you know, is just fully and plainly admitting, unironically, that Biden wants to choose a black woman to prove that he's not just any old white guy
Is all
Then don't bother watching- Because that's probably what it's going to be at some point.
But here you're shifting to the second debate; the debate everyone concedes she did poorly in.
She did nothing akin to putting the mic down in the first or third debates.
Russia or Saudi Arabia probably has dirt on creepy Joe too smh.
Joe Biden has touched so many children at swearing-in ceremonies. He always singles out girls from their families, and makes them pose in front of him.
Def not my first, second, or even third choice. I really do think that him running fuels the right even more. They look at it as basically Obama 2.0 and will fight tooth and nail to make sure they have the votes.
Either way, I will put my biases and favorites aside if his name is against trumps in November. He just is not a candidate that excites me or makes me think we will head in a more progressive direction. He screams status quo to me.
Either way, I will put my biases and favorites aside if his name is against trumps in November. He just is not a candidate that excites me or makes me think we will head in a more progressive direction. He screams status quo to me.
I wonder if anyone has ever confronted Biden about his unacceptable behavior?
If he was feeling up my young daughter like that I'd tell him to his face to keep his hands to himself. Hell, knowing my daughter's mentality and the way we're raising her she would likely shove/slap him Vice President or not. Your body, your rules, it doesn't matter who you are or how powerful/rich you are.
If he was feeling up my young daughter like that I'd tell him to his face to keep his hands to himself. Hell, knowing my daughter's mentality and the way we're raising her she would likely shove/slap him Vice President or not. Your body, your rules, it doesn't matter who you are or how powerful/rich you are.
Beto or Bernie would be my first choices but I'll vote for any dem that can beat Trump and undo his bullshit.
If pressed I actually expect that or something similar (all lives, etc) to happen, he's used to fucking things up.
I posted the two single biggest sound bites to come out of the entire debate cycle. Both went unanswered. Which debate they came from is irrelevant. She won all 3 debates on substance, IMO. Unfortunately, substance doesn't mean what it used to.
Biden isn't totally stupid, he's aware that at his age a VP matters more than most.
I wish Biden would go away. I can't imagine his actual policy history will go over well in the primary, the man is a relic.
https://youtu.be/Wsq30E6OSVU
I know it's a long time ago, but shit like this is disgusting, and I haven't seen any real evidence that he's grown since then.
https://youtu.be/Wsq30E6OSVU
I know it's a long time ago, but shit like this is disgusting, and I haven't seen any real evidence that he's grown since then.
There's a difference between saying he's not failing and saying he's definitely going to win. I don't like him and hope he loses but you're basing your assertion that he's floundering off of conjecture. He still has a giant base of support in the democratic party.
Also I am still fucking astounded at how he acted at damn near every ceremony. Did no one on his or Obama's staff tell him to quit it? Did he ignore them? The fuck is wrong with him even if he's just super naive at best.
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As a centrist, he's one of the few people that would make me vote D. If someone like Warren ends up running i'm not going to vote at all as I wouldnt vote for Trump either
I'd do it because at 78+ years old, as morbid as it is, there's a decent change Stacey Abrams becomes President...
He's super old for a candidate, he's super creepy, and he seems almost completely out of touch with the current Dem base.
But sadly he's probably quite comfortably the candidate who would have the best chance against Trump. He's very popular in the areas that we'll need to flip where a Bernie/Warren/other further left candidate may scare off people.
But sadly he's probably quite comfortably the candidate who would have the best chance against Trump. He's very popular in the areas that we'll need to flip where a Bernie/Warren/other further left candidate may scare off people.
I don't know what's worse..
People straight up admitting that Biden can't do it without a Black Woman by his side because that's just how shit he is...
Or people really trying to spin this as a great move for Abrams when it's really about a shithead white guy looking to be more appealing for the minority vote.
You do understand this line of thinking about Hillary is a big part of why Trump narrowly defeated her, yes?
Sometimes, remaining "neutral" is just a vote for the status quo.
I wouldn't worry about ol' Diamond Joe.
Everyone loves the guy until they spend any time thinking about him and realize he isn't Onion Joe Biden. He was a terrible candidate in 2008 who didn't do or say anything of relevance other than be a smartass a couple of times, same as during 2012 VP debates. He's super old, super old fashioned and he has no good ideas. He's only even sort of because he seems sort of legitimate becasue he was Obama's VP.
You are overestimating the number of American citizens who would actively vote for a carbon rod if it would remove Trump from office.
He's an incumbent during an economic upswing. History is very much on his side so long as there isn't some crippling scandal or a market fallout.
They don't call him Teflon Don for nothing. Everybody needs to get behind whoever is nominated to defeat his ass. Period.
It should raise a red flag that all wings of "poli era" are strongly against Biden.
