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Biden looking to announce Bid for presidency with pledge to have Stacey Abrams as VP
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I'm not so sure on announcing it so early, but you have to admit, that could shape up to be one really tough ticket to beat.
Hmmm. I'm still not sure I'm sold on the benefits of announcing a running mate early. It really limits your options. Still, I can see why Biden's team may feel the need. The Democratic party has changed so much, and they need something to prove that he represents more than just the past of the party. It's certainly an interesting gambit.
Wish he could have ran in the last election.
He seems a little too old to be running for president next year. Abrams is amazing and I hope we would be very lucky to have her as the VP of our country. Though VP seems like a bit of a waste for someone as gifted as she is. I would rather she was in Congress or the Senate and telling it like it is.
He seems a little too old to be running for president next year. Abrams is amazing and I hope we would be very lucky to have her as the VP of our country. Though VP seems like a bit of a waste for someone as gifted as she is. I would rather she was in Congress or the Senate and telling it like it is.
How much juice does a Vice President have? This is a tempting offer, as Joe was a no for me before hand.
This is why he's weighing just outright picking her as VP right now and skipping the selection stuff
That's a REALLY hard ticket to beat because it's kind of a four quadrant one, it covers most of the demographics and they both know it
The one good thing about biden winning is that he can hit the ground running. He can go in day one with a good staff and undo all the things Trump did swiftly and get things back on track. The bad thing is I don't think "back on track" or same old policies of Obama will work anymore, people want someone with more courage to implement a leftist agenda.
It would require Beto and Harris to team up to beat them... And I'm okay with that.
Abrams would make a Biden presidency more palatable to me, to be sure... But I think we need to move on from the Bidens of the Democratic party. Of course, I'll vote for whomever comes out of the primaries but I would rather see Beto and Harris (in any order).
Abrams would make a Biden presidency more palatable to me, to be sure... But I think we need to move on from the Bidens of the Democratic party. Of course, I'll vote for whomever comes out of the primaries but I would rather see Beto and Harris (in any order).
I like it. I'm not huge on Biden himself, but declaring this ticket early could really work to his benefit and change the nature of the primaries.
Not much direct power, but it does mean that Abrams would be President if anything happened to Biden and she'd have his ear on basically any topic she wanted.
Dick Cheney was the exception as far as VPs go, and that's unlikely to happen again. He still didn't have any real power, but he was able to exert his will pretty freely on Bush.
I don't think it hurts Abrams at all. Biden, for all his issues, still gets a lot of respect and a crappy record on race *is* defanged a lot by picking her. He's not making her a token Ambassador (or *cough* head of HUD), he's picking her as frickin' VP.
Not much direct power, but it does mean that Abrams would be President if anything happened to Biden and she'd have his ear on basically any topic she wanted.
Dick Cheney was the exception as far as VPs go, and that's unlikely to happen again. He still didn't have any real power, but he was able to exert his will pretty freely on Bush.
I don't think it hurts Abrams at all. Biden, for all his issues, still gets a lot of respect and a crappy record on race *is* defanged a lot by picking her. He's not making her a token Ambassador (or *cough* head of HUD), he's picking her as frickin' VP.
Damn, that's a powerful ticket. I'm really hoping Warren comes out on top and that her and Bernie encourage more progressive policies.
Regardless, I'm voting D down the ballot.
Regardless, I'm voting D down the ballot.
Eh. Depends on who you ask.
He seems to obliterate Trump in the states that matter... Could be the Democratic party's best chance at winning back the oval office.
He does nothing to inspire me with his policy positions, however.
considering Beto thinks it's like his destiny to be president, i don't think that's gonna happen
Great, another viable 2020 Senate candidate being ripped away to be in the already ludicrously overcrowded presidential primary. And not even to be on the top of the ticket!
Also, the last time we had a candidate pick a running mate without having locked up the primary was Ted Cruz in 2016 who very clearly did it as a final desperation move. Kinda weird to take a page out of that book.
Also, the last time we had a candidate pick a running mate without having locked up the primary was Ted Cruz in 2016 who very clearly did it as a final desperation move. Kinda weird to take a page out of that book.
This would sure as hell be a big stepping stone toward it.
It's a hell of a ticket and I'd back it for sure.
It feels like a cheap stunt to announce something like this at this early stage. This tactic was laughable when Ted Cruz announced that Carly Fiorina was his VP pick and it should be here too, but we'll see in a year what people think when it comes time to actually vote for anything. Personally doing this would make me less likely to support him during the primary process
I mean if he loses the primary going for a VP spot could easily put him in a better position for future runs, especially since his experience is limited to the house at the moment I believe
having abrams as his vp would literally be the only redeemable part of him running. why would that make you LESS likely to support him?
I guess I would be OK with it. Let Biden beat Trump this cycle, and refuse to run in 2020. This should give time for other candidates to grow in the 4 years of democratic government, and be able to campaign more freely on policies vs campaigning on being "not Trump"
This is what kills me about the choice too. I'm not a huge Biden fan, but damn if he wouldn't deliver Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin on a silver platter.
Biden would be smart to do this! He's got a bad track record on racial issues. This would signal to the voters that he's turned over a new leaf.
I wish they had. But at this point Biden might as well enter the race.
I wish they had. But at this point Biden might as well enter the race.
he's consistently grossly handsy with any women he takes pictures with, for one. he's also pretty milquetoast when it comes to his policies.
President Biden.... inspires so much enthusiasm to vote. Status quo centrism till you're blue in the face.