I mean, I've promised things before that have slipped my mind, haha. Probably would have gone better if I had people keeping track of those.
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Biden, Informed By Firefighter That On His Last Visit (8 Years Earlier) He Promised to Bring Beer, Pulls Out Beer And Passes It Around
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I mean, I've promised things before that have slipped my mind, haha. Probably would have gone better if I had people keeping track of those.
Joe Biden can help an old lady cross the street and people will find something to complain about. This was a nice moment, more of these.
I mean, if there's no discussion to be had about the substance or legitimacy of the event, or to even have a meta discussion about how people react to these kinds of things, I'm not entirely sure what the purpose of the thread is besides saying "good guy Biden"
So what if it was? That's your only criticism.
Trump doesn't do any of this stuff - at all. He cares so little, he doesn't even put in the effort to even pretend to care, because frankly, he's only cared about one thing in his entire life:
Himself.
You can't say the same about Biden. You're free to disagree with him or his policies, he might've not been your first, second or even third choice, but he's a caring, empathetic human being and more importantly, he's all you've got right now.
He's someone resembling a President. You think Trump would've done this? Any of it? He'd probably throw toilet rolls, until they'd asked him to stop.
You don't have to like him. You don't have to vote for him. But don't come into a thread about a positive uplifting gesture only to insert your cynicism in a world with Donald fucking Trump as the sitting President. We've had enough of that already.
I mean, you can just block me. No one is forcing you to read mild criticisms of Joe Biden.
"He's not Trump" has never, and will never be a reason to treat Biden with kid gloves.
Whats the point of threads where Trump does something horrible? Except, bad guy Trump?
he's a politician
he prob made the promise and then wrote it down in a journal or sommit
"the next time i meet with so-and-so, get them some beers"
Maybe Biden just gets beers for everyone he's ever met, just to be sure
Thank you for sharing this. With the current stakes of this year on top of Trump's inability to function as a person, it's easy to forget the human side of politics. That seems to be an area where Biden particularly excels that isn't apparent remotely.
Every account I've heard of someone meeting Biden in person describes an infectious personality, a genuine individual truly committed to hearing the perspectives of others. I know someone who got to meet him at Rutgers for an event years ago. She supported him well before he secured the nomination due to that meeting alone. He seems to have a strong effect on people.
It makes me wonder how many of the people who hate him would feel if they got the chance to meet him. It makes me wonder how many Trump supporters would denounce Trump after spending just an hour with him talking over them and never letting them speak, versus a genuinely great listener.
He's had some bad gaffes and he might not always have the best ideas but at the very least he truly does seem to be a public servant committed to actually finding ways to improve the lives of average Americans.
I think people are saying that it was likely a staged event, and as such, there's not really much to be said about it. It's empty calories, the thread.
I'm not even sure what you are asking for? You said you weren't sure what the point of the thread is if people that don't agree that this was a good thing will get piled on. Correct? So, what is the point of any Trump thread where he does some shitty thing? I mean, the end result will be that everybody piles on Trump right? And rightfully so in my mind.
Isn't that discussion? Discussion doesn't have to be argument or opposition. There is a lot of discussion to be had in this thread, and that seems clear because it keeps going. And those that don't agree with the majority opinion can voice their opposition. That doesn't mean they won't get piled on however. Those in power will ultimately react to these heated topics and that alone is worthy of discussion.
I mean, what's an example of a shitty thing Trump has done that someone made a thread about? Like, I'm trying to gauge what you mean by "shitty thing"
How staged you talking? Like Biden's people went last week to the station and told them what to say OR Biden's people reminded them just moments before? There are degrees here.
Also, it's still a nice story of Biden visiting a firehouse he visited 8 years ago. The beer is just a nice moment.
If Biden just started handing our brews at small campaign stops and meet and greets all over the rust belt this election would legitimately be over.
Namely that someone was like, "this would be a good photo op" and so they got the firefighters involved. Didn't necessarily even give them a script to say, as I'm sure the firefighters likely remember the promise.
Like everything he does??? What are you even asking me? Calling soldiers suckers and losers. Downplaying the virus even knowing it was bad. That's just in the last week. But, according to the argument you are presenting, since we can all agree that's shitty of Trump, there shouldn't even be a thread since therefore there is nothing to discuss since we should agree it's shitty.
What is your argument here?
Next thing you are going to say is Santa isn't real. No shit! Whats the point?
I don't avoid people I disagree with.
What's he done, though? People are shitting on him for a positive thing. It wasn't another gaffe, it was him fulfilling a promise. What would require kid gloves here? Please, enlighten me.
All of the criticism coming his way right now rings hollow in light of not only Trump, but in general. You have absolutely nothing constructive to say or add, so you blurt out nonsense to have anything at all negative to say about him.
This is not you treating him with kid gloves, it's the exact opposite. It's treating him with a type of cynicism he hasn't made himself deserved of. A cynicism, which frankly, you should be reserving for the current shitheel in chief, but you aren't.
People like you baffle me.
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In that case, as a trans person, when Trump does something bad that hurts trans people, it's really valuable for people to know, and the thread not existing would make people less educated on the wrongdoings of Trump.
Downplaying the virus is something that cost tens of thousands of lives, causes millions more to be ill.
I thought you were talking about entirely petty things like covfefe or whatever, but it turns out that you actually do think that discussing actions that Trump performed that had widespread ramifications are comparable to a thread about a photo op.
Nah, not weirdos, just young, inexperienced people who think being edgy makes them look smart. I was like that once
Man we see so much of this argument that we shouldn't speak of Trump because we all agree on something, but less on why the media isn't doin their job and taking bad faith actors to task.
I don't know that you understand what 'edgy' actually means.
Where people were talking about how cool it is that Biden is doing this, people similarly talk about it being empty and vapid.
Because it is cool. Short of Biden falling flat on his ass there is no way this backfires. It's called low risk high reward. He brought beer to firemen, when's Trump ever done anything like that?
Have some of you forgotten what an actual campaign looks like? I know it sbene four years and we have a insane narcissist for president that does white supramicist rallies for campaign events, but Jesus.
It appears the problem might be your posts, as I'm not the only person to say the same thing to you about your posts.
Yes, some people here really are insufferable.
Absolutely. In this case, remembering a promise 8 years in the past to front line workers, doesn't come across as just a "photo op" when the actual President is cool with 200k people dying and is calling soldiers suckers and losers but I guess I need to have others tell me what is worthy to have a discussion about.
I'm pretty certain that the problem was you not reading your post, since I didn't say that a person had to criticize Biden or else their behavior was worrisome.
Again, just take the L, captive, and read posts more thoroughly in the future.
When Biden wins in two months quote me again. I'll buy you a damn beer or anybody else that wants one. Hell yeah. It will be a party that will put 2000 to shame.
I'm curious why any staffer would know this moment out of the thousands of hours of footage Biden likely has. It seems more likely Biden himself remembered this. Even if it took an anniversary to remember it. But in the end, still a classy move that our current president is in capable of doing.
It's not particularly edgy to feel disaffected by a photo opportunity, especially as someone who is already pretty not enthused by Biden in areas that matter more.
Absolutely. I kind of wish I didn't drink sometimes, but I will be drinking that night. I'll buy you a coke. November 4th will likely be a day I remember the rest of my life and I want to celebrate it with everybody!
Disclaimer. Quote this thread because I will forget.
Regardless of who remembered it, this is a nice breath of fresh air after the last 4 years.
Much obliged. I do hope that I will be celebrating Trump getting out of office instead of drowning my sorrows in high fructose corn syrup