Biden Creates Legal War Room, Preparing for a Big Fight Over Voting
With two former solicitors general and hundreds of lawyers, the Biden campaign is bracing for an extended legal battle and hoping to maintain trust in the electoral process.
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Biden Creates Legal War Room, Preparing for a Big Fight Over Voting
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Probably a smart decision. However it's obvious no amount of legal scholars or experts can fight against the appointed lackeys of Trump.
I've already scheduled the day after the election off to hunker down for the bullshit.
And because I will be incredibly hungover regardless of the outcome.
And because I will be incredibly hungover regardless of the outcome.
i just went ahead and scheduled that Monday -Wednesday off.
Due to mail in voting I thought we wouldn't get the results till a few days after the election?
no, if enough states are called to distribute a winning amount of electoral votes on election night like usual, then it will be called with no delay. it's unknowable until election night itself whether enough states will be called or not
Good. They need to do everything they can, because that's what the enemy is doing.
Jesus, the anxiety from this.
Jesus, the anxiety from this.
My thoughts exactly. Trump supporters are going to use this as ammo to say Biden is cheating.
How much of this will it take for people to wake up and stop downplaying the seriousness of these concerns? We're about to go through an unprecedented time of civil unrest in only 2 months.
Stop thinking we have the "law' to protect us. Trumps stooges have infiltrated every facet of our institutions and there are multiple powers within working at odds with each other. We've seen police unions officially endorse Trump and have no reason to believe they will protect us from white supremacist groups that will undoubtedly be in the streets inciting violence.
Stop underestimating Trump and his cult. Protect yourselves.
Stop thinking we have the "law' to protect us. Trumps stooges have infiltrated every facet of our institutions and there are multiple powers within working at odds with each other. We've seen police unions officially endorse Trump and have no reason to believe they will protect us from white supremacist groups that will undoubtedly be in the streets inciting violence.
Stop underestimating Trump and his cult. Protect yourselves.
I can at least be confident that this administration will be staffed by somewhat competent people and not unqualified weirdos at best.
Trump's really going to do it, isn't he? He's going to lose the election but file a series of legal challenges that make him not lose. Of course, this would be in addition to using the feds to break in and physically steal/destroy ballots, claiming they're fraudulent.
Good good, it's coming.
Trump and the GOP is going to challenge every single mail in ballot in every battleground state. Mail-in ballots get certified on election day (some states pre-certify like Florida, which is one reason why the Florida primaries went pretty smoothly in getting results out by the next day), and that certification is usually checking the name and address to match the records, and then checking a public signature for when you registered to vote.
Most ballots get certified, but this is a public process and parties/candidates can challenge the certification of a ballot, and generally what you'll have happen is that in Biden-heavy districts in a state like Florida, the Trump Campaign will challenge 100% of mail-in ballots to try to de-certify them and get them thrown out.
Expect scenes like from Florida in 2000, where election officials will be comparing signatures and the Trump people will insist that any signature that is slightly different... For instance, maybe you used a maiden name when you registered in 2016, and got married in 2018 and you sign your name differently now but your'e the same person, or you include an initial now and you used to not, and so on. PEople forget, or they dot an I or cross a T differently as their signature evolves. This is especially true among young people who might not have a consistent signature. The Trump Campaign is basically going to try to invalidate every mail-in vote in Biden-heavy districts. There is a public process for challenging this, it's all public record.
Just get ready, mentally prepare yourself for the shit show.
This is going to get messy. In 2000, GOP operatives staged "The Brooks Brothers Riot," a staged political protest where they got dozens of volunteers to go to the Miami-Dade election recount office and just disrupt the general operation of business, make it as difficult as possible to do it easily. One of the heads of organizing that was none other than Trump campaign advisor turn convicted felon turn clemency recipient, Roger Stone.
Trump and the GOP is going to challenge every single mail in ballot in every battleground state. Mail-in ballots get certified on election day (some states pre-certify like Florida, which is one reason why the Florida primaries went pretty smoothly in getting results out by the next day), and that certification is usually checking the name and address to match the records, and then checking a public signature for when you registered to vote.
Most ballots get certified, but this is a public process and parties/candidates can challenge the certification of a ballot, and generally what you'll have happen is that in Biden-heavy districts in a state like Florida, the Trump Campaign will challenge 100% of mail-in ballots to try to de-certify them and get them thrown out.
Expect scenes like from Florida in 2000, where election officials will be comparing signatures and the Trump people will insist that any signature that is slightly different... For instance, maybe you used a maiden name when you registered in 2016, and got married in 2018 and you sign your name differently now but your'e the same person, or you include an initial now and you used to not, and so on. PEople forget, or they dot an I or cross a T differently as their signature evolves. This is especially true among young people who might not have a consistent signature. The Trump Campaign is basically going to try to invalidate every mail-in vote in Biden-heavy districts. There is a public process for challenging this, it's all public record.
Just get ready, mentally prepare yourself for the shit show.
This is going to get messy. In 2000, GOP operatives staged "The Brooks Brothers Riot," a staged political protest where they got dozens of volunteers to go to the Miami-Dade election recount office and just disrupt the general operation of business, make it as difficult as possible to do it easily. One of the heads of organizing that was none other than Trump campaign advisor turn convicted felon turn clemency recipient, Roger Stone.
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Smart- because that's what its going to come to. Election night results likely skewing Trump, because mail ballots aren't all counted (mostly because of Trump fuckery with postal system, and polling places). Trump declaring victory and then when more results come in and it goes the other way, he starts suing every which way that the mail ballots are invalid, unconstitutional, people voted twice, illegally, and will do everything he can to get stacks of mail ballots tossed out, etc.
We will definitely not know who won the election come Wednesday morning unless it is a crazy, unexpected blowout, or Democratic voters suddenly reverse course and vote in person instead of by mail.
The most likely scenario, even the one where Biden wins comfortably, will likely show Trump leading in Wednesday morning in key battleground states. And then as mail in ballots are certified and counted, those numbers are going to drop for Trump and go up for Biden.
Nobody's expectations should be that we will have a clear winner by Wednesday morning. That's not abnormal, either, the idea where we know all 50 states by the next day is a relatively new phenomenon in our lifetimes. December 14 should be the "Drop date" for when we will absolutely know, as that is the date that electors certify the results and officially vote for the president.
But set your expectations lower and also combat Trump's bull shit. Trump is going to try to tell his supporters that any votes counted after election day are fraud, invalid, stolen, cheating, etc. No, they're not. Any attempts to *not count* votes after election day is fraud and cheating. Mentally prepare yourself for the shit show of Trump declaring himself the winner on Wednesday because he's up narrowly in Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Michigan, and then those numbers will slowly tick lower every day, and eventually hit a tipping point of Biden winning -- if polls and what we know about mail in voting is accurate.
Complete results, it may be over on election depending on how things go. If Florida goes blue for instance, Trump is done.