Sure, but my point is starting to export vaccines 6 months into 2021 isn't some monumental achievement when the EU has been doing it all year long while they were facing the shitshow AZ production problems and backlash for their policy.
"Young healthy people" are still spreaders (and can still suffer permanant damage), and the prizes are to encourage more idiots to get vaccinated to avoid a 2nd spike. 598,000 people died here, we don't want shit hitting the fan again.
What do you define as "some months ago"? Because two months ago only 30% of the country had gotten 1 dose.
This is a good thing. And it's not benevolance for the sake of benevolance, it's a diplomatic move. Sometimes what's right aligns with U.S. interests. It's not difficult to understand. Not being benevolant doesn't make what you said any less ridiculous.
A couple of things.
The people that say this is a bad thing are saying it because it is happening late and not at the needed scale to compensate for that, aka, a continuation of the same problem as before!
Wasn't there a post about this exact thing like 2 weeks ago with people screaming how Biden was withholding the vaccine?
www.resetera.com
"They're giving away all of those vaccines that we keep telling people not to take to foreign countries! That's supposed to be our supply of vaccines that you absolutely should not take!"
Do you know what vaxx China is using? I heard from my HK friend his family doesn't wanna go near any of the Sino vaccines. Same with my relatives in the Phliippines. I encouraged them that some vaxx is better than getting covid but I understand the reticience.
www.bbc.com
www.bbc.com
We are literally in a thread about the US buying 500 million vaccine doses for this very purpose.
If Trump were still president, these exports wouldn't be happening at all.
some vax is better than none, but people who recived Sino vaccines likely will need a revaxx. it was at best 50% for base covid, so far lower for the verants.
yup people are, intentionally I think, understating just how bad it got. it was over 4k deathjs a day for awhile, and hung around 1k a day for awhile after that.
Wasn't there a post about this exact thing like 2 weeks ago with people screaming how Biden was withholding the vaccine?
Edit: Yep
[The National Review] The Utterly Embarrassing Failure to Quickly Send Extra U.S. Vaccine Doses Overseas
President Biden, speaking at the White House, May 4: Reuters, earlier today: That’s right, “nations around the globe are still waiting — with growing impatience — to learn where the vaccines will go and how they will be distributed.” Thirty days after Biden’s promise, the administration has...
"Biden wants 70% of Americans to be vaccinated by the 4th of July, and yet he's spending taxpayer money to send half a billion vaccines to foreign nations. Meanwhile, lower than 40% of qualified people in Mississippi and Alabama don't even have one dose of the vaccine in them, and what could be used for them is instead going overseas. In fact, if you look at the overall charts, the states that are deeply blue are the ones that clear the 70% threshold while deep red states are the ones who can't get vaccinated. Perhaps this is Bidens way of getting back at the state's that refused to vote for him into the White House. "Don't like the fact that you can't get the vaccine? Well maybe next time, fall in line with the CDC and the World Health Organization and maybe I wouldn't have treated you worse than 3rd-world citizens." is the message being sent out through all this."
Also, wow at "tired of people pulling the numbers card." How fucking dismissive. 600,000 Americans died. That number includes family members and close friends of people on this very forum.Really tired of people pulling the numbers card. People died everywhere, massively, and are still dying.
March:
Covid-19: Mexico revises coronavirus death toll up by 60%
The revised figures indicate Mexico has the second highest number of Covid-related deaths in the world.
"Since mid-February more than 26,772 Covid-19-related deaths have been reported across Mexico which would take the total to more than 321,000.
That places Mexico above Brazil, which has registered 310,000 deaths, and below the US which has recorded 549,000 fatalities - despite having a population of 126 million which is far smaller than either country."
April:
Covid: Canada sounds the alarm as cases overtake US
Infections in the largest province could increase sixfold without tougher measures, experts warn.
"New variants - especially the UK variant, B1.1.7 - account for more than two-thirds of infections in Ontario.
Even with vaccinations progressing, the expert panel warned that the number of new cases in Ontario could go as high as 30,000 a day - in a province with 14 million people, 38% of the total population of Canada."
I just think more people who claimed to hate Trump's America First attitude and lack of concern for the US' allies would care a bit more about helping them get the situation under control. But like this thread shows most are just happy to attribute criticism to "they hate us, what else is new".
I'm sorry your dumb ass is tired of numbers. Yes, people are still dying, and now that what was the biggest problem country with deaths totalling around 600,000 human beings, and tens of millions of infections, is under control, we can send hundreds of millions of vaccines elsewhere. It's not complicated.
Wasn't there a post about this exact thing like 2 weeks ago with people screaming how Biden was withholding the vaccine?
Edit: Yep
[The National Review] The Utterly Embarrassing Failure to Quickly Send Extra U.S. Vaccine Doses Overseas
President Biden, speaking at the White House, May 4: Reuters, earlier today: That’s right, “nations around the globe are still waiting — with growing impatience — to learn where the vaccines will go and how they will be distributed.” Thirty days after Biden’s promise, the administration has...
Thank you. I'm tired of these fucking ghouls accusing that were accusing us of hoarding as so many were dropping dead here. The #1 goal of every nation on the planet should be to take care of their own people, and any leader in the world who can address such a problem among their populace should. If anyone else was exporting vaccines before supply exceeded their domestic needs as they faced similiar numbers as us, then they are incompetent and negligent of their own citizens. Our hotspot is about as taken care of as it's going to get, so now we address other hot spot nations that also failed to control the virus.
Really tired of people pulling the numbers card. People died everywhere, massively, and are still dying.
March:
Covid-19: Mexico revises coronavirus death toll up by 60%
The revised figures indicate Mexico has the second highest number of Covid-related deaths in the world.
"Since mid-February more than 26,772 Covid-19-related deaths have been reported across Mexico which would take the total to more than 321,000.
That places Mexico above Brazil, which has registered 310,000 deaths, and below the US which has recorded 549,000 fatalities - despite having a population of 126 million which is far smaller than either country."
April:
Covid: Canada sounds the alarm as cases overtake US
Infections in the largest province could increase sixfold without tougher measures, experts warn.
"New variants - especially the UK variant, B1.1.7 - account for more than two-thirds of infections in Ontario.
Even with vaccinations progressing, the expert panel warned that the number of new cases in Ontario could go as high as 30,000 a day - in a province with 14 million people, 38% of the total population of Canada."
I just think more people who claimed to hate Trump's America First attitude and lack of concern for the US' allies would care a bit more about helping them get the situation under control. But like this thread shows most are just happy to attribute criticism to "they hate us, what else is new".
It's more like U.S. lives mean less to you than the lives of others.
