Beyond Good and Evil 2: Hype Check?

[capitalCORN]

Hello. One of my favourite games of gen 6 was BG&E, a Zelda-like that was crammed with even more charm than the average Nintendo release at the time, which was a LOT.
So the game sold like shit and was, in endlife, used as pack-ins for dairy products.
Then, in E3 2017, a trailer was released. Suddenly this project had life again. Guillemot, who I assume is so flush with AC money, decides to greenlight Ancel's most probable dream project in my eyes.
The trailer is divisive. Some deride it for the sudden 'mature' turn that occurs. Personally, I see a wider palette for Ancel to really flex the socio/political themes of the original game. Much the same way that so many senior directors got a take at a more mature effort this gen, I wish the same of Ansel.
I've been on media blackout since the second trailer, but how do others feel about the prospect of the game? Please share in this thread, thanks.

 

[Dreamboum]

This game didn't even resurface yet. I forgot it existed again. Just wait & see

Considering how Ubisoft is headed for a terrible year, I think this game is the most likely Target to get kneecapped in terms of ambition and scale

 

[Deleted member 10737]

#NotMyBG&E
it's looks nothing like the game i loved, so it's really hard for me to be excited about it. it also doesn't look like a game that will come out anytime soon, or look like anything we've seen so far when it does come out.

 

[Deleted member 51691]

It's too far away. My hype is zero until the project progresses further.

 

[SavoyPrime]

Honestly, it's not the BG&E I wanted. It's very ambitious. But I worry that Ancel will lose interest and it will not even end up releasing because it is such an ambitious project. But I do have a mild interest. I'll definitely wait for reviews and feedback before I fully invest though.

 

[Stay Up Be Easy]

#NotMyBG&E
it's looks nothing like the game i loved, so it's really hard for me to be excited about it. it also doesn't look like a game that will come out anytime soon, or look like anything we've seen so far when it does come out.

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The first "The Pig" trailer came out of nowhere and hyped me to shit.

The leaked "The Girl" clip looked cool and I'm line with the first.

The re-debut had a different time but I was willing to give it a chance.

Learning it's a mmo time waster broke my heart. Zero interest.

 

[Infernostew]

As a huge fan of the original game, I hate that I have absolutely no interest in this game. Would have never guessed I'd be saying this statement 10 years ago...

 

[Duffking]

Zero because we've heard and seen basically nothing of substance about it and likely won't for some time.

 

[AllEchse]

Always heard about how great the first game was and how it was the better Zelda of that year, and how much fans clamored for a followup but then when they announced it, it's this weird No Man Sky Knock off that looks way too ambitious.
I still don't understand how this game is supposed to work and Ubisoft doesn't seem to know themselves if it's a prequel or sequel.
Still want to get to the first game sometime, if it's with the PC Version, the last Gen HD Version or the PS2 version.

 

[Crossing Eden]

Personally, I see a wider palette for Ancel to really flex the socio/political themes of the original game. Much the same way that so many senior directors got a take at a more mature effort this gen, I wish the same of Ansel.

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You're probably gonna like this game OP.

The first "The Pig" trailer came out of nowhere and hyped me to shit.

The leaked "The Girl" clip looked cool and I'm line with the first.

The re-debut had a different time but I was willing to give it a chance.

Learning it's a mmo time waster broke my heart. Zero interest.

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It's not an MMO.

Zero because we've heard and seen basically nothing of substance about it and likely won't for some time.

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Tens months ago we had a 26 minute gameplay demonstration.




and a succinct breakdown of what was shown.

 

[Deleted member 13645]

It looks crazily ambitious, i'm hype for it. Ubisoft tends to make pretty good games and they're giving this one a lot of time in the oven, so i'm excited to see what it ends up being.

 

[Nax]

Cool reveal trailer. But hype is 0 at this point. Needs to be re-introduced when it's ready.

 

[Siresly]

It's obviously going to be quite a departure from the first game. I have faith in the direction and talents of Ancel and friends, but expect it won't always be guided by them, as it appears to somehow have accumulated a budget and so Ubisoft needs it to make money.

So I'm very much looking forward to it, but am also somewhat worried.

 

[Deleted member 19218]

I have a no hype rule until I see gameplay. It takes more than magic developer words and some cinematic trailer to get me excited because I don't trust it.

 

[adumb]

Looks like GaaS garbage wearing the skin of a friend who died much too young.

 

[Spring-Loaded]

I have a no hype rule until I see gameplay. It takes more than magic developer words and some cinematic trailer to get me excited because I don't trust it.

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and a succinct breakdown of what was shown.

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[TDLink]

CG announcement trailer was cool, but it's hard to get hyped for something that we basically haven't seen. I know they showed a couple of super early gameplay tech-demo type things, but that hardly counts.

We have no real idea what this game is going to look or play like. Conceptually it could be cool, but there's no there there, at least not yet.

 

[Derktron]

It's still here for me, but judging how Ubisoft is treating all of their games is what worries me.

 

[Sulik2]

I don't believe this game is ever coming out so I have no hype for it. It looks neat though.

 

[Deleted member 19218]

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Right I saw that just now and I think it's a shame that this is how I find out. It's someone's job to sell the game to potential customers at Ubisoft and during the reveal at E3 they chose not to show the actual game.

 

[KiNolin]

I didn't mind the new gameplay style... until it was confirmed to be online-only. Now I'm hoping for WiLD to make a comeback and have a good singleplayer.

 

[Deleted member 46948]

I love BG&E to bits, but I somehow can't see current Ubisoft releasing a game like that, only bigger.

It's probably going to be chock full of weird monetization, will have 50 different editions, regular paid updates and will force you to weird social hubs. In short, it will be almost certainly GaaSed to all fuck.

 

[HellBlazer]

Eh... I hope Ancel can pull it off, but so far, it looks like Open-World Ubisoft Game wearing a BG&E skin, which doesn't seem that appealing to me...

 

[Nappuccino]

It's way easier for me to feel cynical than hype at this point. I really hope it's good but . . . it doesn't seem like the BG&E2 I wanted from either a gameplay or story perspective.

 

[Lucas M. Thomas]

Negative 37. Or however many times that trailer used cuss words to try to sound cool. 37's my guess.

 

[Exis]

I will play it when it comes out as I love everything non Rabbit based Ancel has done.
They should just call it Beyond Good and Evil though.

 

[Ricelord]

Seeing that its gonna be a gaas that open world and most likely will be filled with mtxs, I don't have high hope for it

 

[Messofanego]

I am skeptical on how good the storytelling and character writing is with this online gigantic open universe.

 

[ArjanN]

Right I saw that just now and I think it's a shame that this is how I find out. It's someone's job to sell the game to potential customers at Ubisoft and during the reveal at E3 they chose not to show the actual game.

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Honestly the gameplay bit they've shown all look early / vertical slice-y to me, and that CG trailer was clearly a much better way to sell to a wide audience.

It's one of those projects that's clearly had a troubled development, which for me basically translates to: wait and see until until it's mostly done.

 

[Conal]

You're probably gonna like this game OP.


It's not an MMO.


Tens months ago we had a 45 minute gameplay demonstration.




and a succinct breakdown of what was shown.

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It feels really odd watching that because it just looks like nothing to me. Like less then nothing.

Despite the scope what's been shown so far contains about a minute of gameplay.

A few empty streets with nothing to do. Zoom to inner space, nothing to do. Zoom to outer space, nothing to do.

I'm sure there will be loads of activities and busy work added before launch but saying there's '45 minutes of gameplay' is a bit misleading. It's barely a 45 minute tech demo.

 

[Zephy]

I'm excited about the promises but really cautious about whether the game will actually deliver.

So not really hyped at all right now, but if it turns out good (which I somewhat doubt) I'll be there at launch.

 

[Crossing Eden]

Right I saw that just now and I think it's a shame that this is how I find out. It's someone's job to sell the game to potential customers at Ubisoft and during the reveal at E3 they chose not to show the actual game.

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They did show the game at e3. The year it was announced they released this:



Ofc it was too early and mainly a tech demonstration, compared to the video below which shows the core gameplay loop, ship customization, combat, etc.

Despite the scope what's been shown so far contains about a minute of gameplay.

A few empty streets with nothing to do. Zoom to inner space, nothing to do. Zoom to outer space, nothing to do.

I'm sure there will be loads of activities and busy work added before launch but saying there's '45 minutes of gameplay' is a bit misleading. It's barely a 45 minute tech demo.

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I actually linked the wrong video. I should've linked the actual gameplay demo from the official gameplay channel.




I didn't realize that I linked a video that combined the in-engine demo from e3 2017 and only a portion of the video above. I apologize.

 

[terminaljeremy]

Looks like GaaS garbage wearing the skin of a friend who died much too young.

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This is beautfiully put. Hype factor 0 at the moment, unfortunately.

 

[Conal]

They did show the game at e3. The year it was announced they released this:



I actually linked the wrong video. I should've linked the actual gameplay demo from the official gameplay channel.




I didn't realize that I linked a video that combined the in-engine demo from e3 2017 and only a portion of the video above. I apologize.

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No need to apologise. I'll give it a watch.

 

[Deleted member 17210]

All the delays have killed my hype, as has the game not looking as appealing as the original so far.

 

[KORNdog]

It's a typical current gen Ubisoft sequel. They've removed every recognisable quality from the original game and made it open world. I can almost smell the MTX's from here.

I would honestly struggle to care any less about it at this point.

 

[Velocity:Design:Comfort]

The ignroance/misleading misinformation/concern trolling about this game is ridiculous.

It's a typical current gen Ubisoft sequel. They've removed every recognisable quality from the original game and made it open world. I can almost smell the MTX's from here.

I would honestly struggle to care any less about it at this point.

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Case in point...there is barely anything shown about this game. How do you know it will be like those other games? Has Ancel ever copied someone else in his career ever?

 

[Crossing Eden]

The ignroance/misleading misinformation/concern trolling about this game is ridiculous.

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"They've never shown gameplay"--->They have
"It looks like a GaaS"--->In what regard?
"It's an MMO"--->There's co-op
"It's nothing like the first game"---->Ancel has gone out of his way to say that this is much closer to what he had in mind with the first game, an idea that originally was impossible due to hardware restraints.

:/

 

[LonestarZues]

Maybe when it has a release date/window and we learn more about it. Didn't really like the 1st game, but still willing to wait and see on this one.

 

[Velocity:Design:Comfort]

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"They've never shown gameplay"--->They have
"It looks like a GaaS"--->In what regard?
"It's an MMO"--->There's co-op

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Don't forget "There's nothing to do," Era's go to about literally Any Game That They Don't Like (until it comes out and people suddenly do). I saw people say that about BOTW, God of War and even RDR2 on here back when those were in dev.


I understand the mistrust in Ubisoft's line up some people have...but this is an Ancel game. It's not like those other franchises.

 

[Paz]

The folks behind this are pretty great but so far it feels like they made a new interesting game and added the BG&E IP after the fact. I could be very wrong of course.

So I guess as someone interested in new things I'm cautiously optimistic, and as someone who loved BG&E I have little faith.

 

[Conal]

I'm sorry I just don't see anything that interests me in the slightest so far. It's a real shame because I loved the first one so much.

I feel they could really mitigate some of the concerns surrounding the game by just showing us something a bit more colourful, or some of the wildlife to capture (photography was such a large part of the 1st).

So far there's nothing 'charming' about the game and that's one thing I think everyone could agree the first one was. They seem to have swapped all that for something more grimy and edgy.

 

[Blayde]

Haven't played Ubisoft games since black flag, with the exception of that switch game with Nintendo characters. Their copy/paste crap is kinda old.

 

[Crossing Eden]

I should mention that they've also shown off the character customization

and ship customization:

I genuinely have no idea how the narrative that they haven't shown this game off managed to stick.

Haven't played Ubisoft games since black flag, with the exception of that switch game with Nintendo characters. Their copy/paste crap is kinda old.

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[Conal]

I should mention that they've also shown off the character customization

and ship customization:

I genuinely have no idea how the narrative that they haven't shown this game off managed to stick.

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The character customisation looks cool (and a little disgusting lol) but not what I want from a BG&E game. I'm glad you're looking forward to it though.

 

[Dyno]

Very interested. I never played the first, but whatever this one is it seems to be extremely ambitious. These are usually the types of games I'm most interested in as they'll either be a huge flop or a huge success.

 

[Net_Wrecker]

Looks like a hugely ambitious game that won't be out for another 2 years at the least that people will judge before it's even had a proper blowout beyond the really early material we've gotten so far because even enthusiast communities are full of people who have no idea how games come together.

As for me, it's not the BG&E2 I wanted 15 years ago, but it's a very enticing idea for a game that could be so much more than the first. We'll see.

 

[SixelAlexiS]

I couldn't care less about an online focused experience that will likely drags out with loot and repetitive missions like any other GaaS game or so out there... I just wanted a cozy and intimate action adventure like the first one, while this one go in totally opposite direction... nope, not gonna play it.

 

[Conal]

People will judge before it's even had a proper blowout beyond the really early material we've gotten so far because even enthusiast communities are full of people who have no idea how games come together.

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As for me, it's not the BG&E2 I wanted 15 years ago

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But that's the reason I'm judging it. Games don't tend to completely shift tone, style and scope during development.

 

[capitalCORN]

But that's the reason I'm judging it. Games don't tend to completely shift tone, style and scope during development.

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They often do tho.