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Better Call Saul - Season 5 - AMC
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Might have already been posted, but The Watch has a great interview with Rhea Seehorn. She drops a lot of knowledge on how the show is made, along with movie/TV recommendations.
Is the New TV Pipeline Drying Up? Plus: Rhea Seehorn of ‘Better Call Saul’ on Playing Kim Wexler.
Many TV productions are on hold because of COVID-19. What happens a few months down the road if there is no new TV?www.theringer.com
What TV shows does she recommend 👀
TV shows - Broadchurch, Happy Valley, Fleabag, Extras, Catastrophe, Mary Tyler Moore show, wants to rewatch Freaks and Geeks
Movies - She wants to see Swallow, recommended Celebration, Being There
finally started catching up this weekend and have one more episode until im caught up for the season so far and its been great. except for hank showing up. hes the worst
The first season did a two-night premiere as well - they did it again this season to give it a boost because it was off the air for so long.
Given that they know the last season will be the end, I hope this time there won't be nearly 2 years between seasons. But with the current virus situation, it's gonna throw every single production for a loop. Next TV season is gonna be like the writer's strike year but worse, I'm guessing.
i thought about that. It could be 2022 before we sea the final season.
How do people interpret how Jimmy is handling Chuck's death? That scene where Howard reveals that he thinks Chuck committed suicide always puzzled me. Howard brings up the insurance thing, and Jimmy's demeanor changes. "Well, that's your cross to bear", or something like that. My current interpretation is that the guilt for pushing Chuck to suicide is too much to handle, so he projects it on Howard and also tries to mentally detach from the whole thing, which is why he seems so nonchalant about it.
oh he's fully projected everything on to Howard, that's part of the reason he hates his guts. I also think he avoids thinking about it as much as he can, but seeing Howard reminds him of it every time. In Jimmy's mind, he didn't have anything at all to do with Chuck's death.
Probably still the most horrifying character moment for Jimmy in this series to me is when he got his license back by giving a moving speech about Howard and afterward admitting that he basically didn't believe a word of what he said (although secretly he maybe does a little bit).
Yeah. I just can't tell if Jimmy truly doesn't give a shit about what happened with Chuck, or if he's suppressing it and we're going to witness some total mental breakdown over it in the future. Guess we'll see
I think in order for him to function at all without his conscience getting in the way he'll have to keep suppressing it and convince himself that it really is all on Howard and Chuck. At this point Kim is really the only thing he has resembling any kind of conscience. Once she's out of the picture Saul will be fully unleashed.
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There is a really interesting detail in Mike's fight scene from episode 3. Look closely when he dodges the punch.
That's so subtle. I love that they add these details most people won't even notice.
When he dodged, I thought to myself...there is no way he did that. All these doubts crept into my mind too.
It's little nuances and attention to detail like this that makes me appreciate this series even more.
Only Lalo would think of a $7mil pickup as a "simple errand", haha
Really great clip where Rhea goes through every detail that that the crew goes into when staging these home and kitchen scenes. It's incredible. She basically says that every single uhm and ah and little line is written. It's barely ever improv.
I was watching Curb for the first time a couple of weeks ago and noticed Bob playing Larry's former porn friend in an episode. Cool to see how far he's come.
I would argue it's so nuanced and multifaceted.
In season 4, Jimmy pretends that nothing's changed. In his head, he's intentionally avoiding anything to do with Chuck once he learns of his passing. It's why Jimmy was so aloof with the first meeting with the board when he was initially rejected for reacquiring his law license. It never crossed his mind that Chuck had a major impact in his life (for better or for worse). There's an interesting juxtaposition between JImmy and Howard as far as how they handle grief. Howard took it hard when Chuck died because in his head, he blames himself for Chuck's death given the bad blood for Chuck wanting to return to work, and the whole insurance liability angle (now that Jimmy exposed his illness). For Jimmy, he feels bad for a moment, and then moves on without any real introspection. In fact, one could argue that once Jimmy heard what Howard had to say, he completely projected any semblance of guilt onto Howard. But the key difference is, Jimmy never really blames himself for what happened to Chuck. In his mind, it's always an external force to be blamed.
This brings us to season 5, where the direction of JImmy and Howard are so different. Howard is doing much better now that he's found healthy ways to grieve and come to terms with his guilt, whereas Howard's healthy approach starts to bug JImmy. It breaks Jimmy's facade that Chuck's death is someone else's fault, which plays to his key character flaw as Saul Goodman: it's never his fault and his inability to accept responsibility (which we see with Gene Takovic). It's why he becomes Saul Goodman, as he defends criminals and ensures that they never have to take responsibility for their actions. Meanwhile, Howard was interested in making things right since he had a role to play in Jimmy never getting hired at HHM. But as far as Jimmy is concerned, the ship has sailed. Jimmy's way of processing Chuck's death with regards to his job is basically: "fuck you, I'm going to be the best damn chimp with a machine gun." And that means he won't ever let go of Slippin' Jimmy.
Maybe if Chuck wasn't so jealous of JImmy's charisma, and Jimmy wasn't such a petty criminal, then this could've been a healthy relationship.
Wow, I totally missed that the first time! This show's nuances add so much texture and richness. Even if the viewer doesn't consciously notice every detail, they'll sense that the characters are authentic people with complex inner worlds.
There's definitely more to Mike than meets the eye!
This just goes to show why Mike is the best character in both series.
I would say that's an accurate interpretation. The whole thing with Jimmy and Howard is a very clearly displaced emotional reaction to his own stuff he's avoiding. The end of the last episode where he flaunts how awesome he is even though he's actually in a really bad situation and knows it, is what gives it away I think. He admits it to Kim, even though he doesn't want to. On some level he knows that Howard isn't responsible for any of it, but he need someone to blame. He can't take it all on himself because it might actually break him entirely
This show is very similar to watching Walt finally comes to terms with the fact that he's an arrogant self-destructive egotistical asshole, except in reverse. We are introduced to Jimmy as a guy we sympathize with because he's always underfoot. His brother is mean to him, life has robbed him of opportunities that are rightfully his.
But Jimmy is a self-destructive conman, addicted to getting things done in the underhanded way because he has an underdog complex, he's the little guy that's being trounced by the man, when in reality he's the cause of his own problems. he manipulates, he lies, he cheats, he does everything the wrong way almost from the moment we meet him. It's downplayed it first but it's there or throughout the entire series. He's never really straight in terms of legality. He doesn't need to be, because it's showing that that doesn't work. Doing things the right way doesn't get you anywhere so you have to lie, cheat and steal your way to the top. We know that that doesn't turn out to be any better, and in fact worse.
Jimmy is a liar but the person he lies to the most is himself. He's created a victim narrative in which he can't escape.
Chuck was in essence, right about him. It's kind of a grim portrayal of a person but Jimmy is incapable of being Jimmy, he was always going to be Saul no matter what he did.
He had the chance to go straight and he seems unable to do so, so instead he leans into "accepting" who he is. But I think the tragic thing is there's a part of him that isn't really that guy, but by the time we see him in BB, that is more or less repressed entirely.
It remains to be seen who Gene will be.
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We're only a few minutes in and we get an amazing music scene. Amazing camera shots/cinematography. Amazing tension. Yup it's a Vince Gilligan episode.
Love this show for the sole reason that it gets me excited about a specific day of the week again.
Oh my god is Mike gonna kill Kim or something. Now I'm getting worried.
You know he will tell Gus she knows and you know Gus cannot leave loose ends.
You know he will tell Gus she knows and you know Gus cannot leave loose ends.
