That title. This is gonna be a Gus Fring heavy episode, isn't it?
That's what I was thinking.Max was Gus bff that was murdered right.
im pretty sure by the end of that scheme Kim will com to a similar conclusion that it wasn't worth it. Or she in deeep.
I almost feel bad for Howard. Still slightly douchy but yeah.That's what I was thinking.
Also, why is Jimmy such a dick to Howard
He's just uppity at this point, but not douchy. He's not behaving disrespectful to Jimmy in any way whatsoeverLooooool mike.
I almost feel bad for Howard. Still slightly douchy but yeah.
Yes, Mike pistol whipped him in the neck
I wonder if it's the same character. Or they sex and City'd itYes, Mike pistol whipped him in the neck
I had a feeling it was gonna be him when. His name showed up in the beginning of the episode
Any time you need an unstable criminal he's gold on any show
Same character, Jimmy hired him to do the same thing he wanted Mike to do and the only other scene he was in was with MikeI wonder if it's the same character. Or they sex and City'd it
I don't usually get to watch until Tuesday morning.I'm guessing everybody's minds are too consumed with the virus to be wanting to talk about this tonight
It's really odd to see people confused about why Jimmy acts the way he does with Howard.
Hating Howard isn't a rational decision he made with complete information and a clear head. Hating Howard has been a lifestyle choice Jimmy lived with for years, possibly decades, before being thrown a curveball with Chuck being partially responsible, but Howard still going along with his decisions and willingly acting as his tool. It's not 100% clear what the timeline is, but he could have hated Howard as far back as when he first got rejected from being an associate back in the mailroom. That's a great deal of emotional inertia, and it's not even the first time we've seen it. You know how Jimmy spent decades loving and idolizing Chuck, but even though Chuck showed his true colors to Jimmy back in Season 1, it took until season 3 for him to actually hate Chuck and even at the end he still had a measure of affection for Chuck before Chuck toasted himself extra crispy? So, imagine the inverse of that for Howard. He's have to save Kim's life or something for Jimmy to do that kind of emotional turn around.
He also hates Howard from an abstract point of view. As in, he hates everything Howard represents, which is partially due to that he (and Chuck) were everything Jimmy wanted to be for a good portion of his life - Respected, Rich, classy, and legitimate. Remember that scene just from last season where he gives Kristy Esposito the talk about how they'll never accept her, only to go break down in his car because he was actually talking about how they'll never accept him. If you ask me, what bothers Jimmy about Howard offering a job at HHM isn't just what happened in the past, but the fact that Jimmy has struggled for so long, torn between his con-man instincts and his lawyerly aspirations, and it's only recently that he synthesized them - As Saul Goodman, he self-actualized by combining those two aspects in a way that is actually balanced. So I think what hurts Jimmy is that Howard offering this job hurts the self actualization, giving him a twinge of doubt and anxiety. Hey, you finally accepted yourself and worked out a way you can be who you are....but suddenly, there is that carrot on a stick dream of being an HHM employee, finally up for grabs. Admittedly, that might be me reading into it, but it seems more fitting that after his hopes for that finally died, he finds it upsetting to think that he might have to reinvent himself again if he decides that part of him still wants to be at HHM after all.
Lastly, because I think people keep forgetting this fact, Jimmy is an asshole. He's not an asshole to the ever shrinking list of people he likes and hangs out with, but if he was someone who regarded treating others fairly as a priority, he'd be a really shitty grifter. If you were to sit him down and try to argue that Howard's being genuine in his affection and good will towards him, Jimmy wouldn't be able to give good reasons for why he should hate Howard this much, but he wouldn't change because hating Howard is simply easier and more beneficial for his mental wellbeing. He doesn't care that Howard may not deserve it. Hating Howard is the simpler, easier emotional journey for him and that's all that matters to him. Howard and fairness can go fuck him-and-itself.
My best guess is a frivolous copyright. She saw the horse in the picture that Mesa Verde obviously took to be their logo. If it's a photo that belongs to someone, Kim might contact them and incentivise them to take MV to court over it.Great episode! I wonder what significance Kim saw in Mesa Verde dude's horse sculptures in the photos?
My best guess is a frivolous copyright. She saw the horse in the picture that Mesa Verde obviously took to be their logo. If it's a photo that belongs to someone, Kim might contact them and incentivise them to take MV to court over it.
But I've never been good at predicting this show, so who knows.
Damn Jimmy being the sound of reason, but Kim kept pushing. This powder keg is about to blow
So there are layers to the kind of scumbag Jimmy is, and Howard will always be on his shitlist because of his dogmatismIt's really odd to see people confused about why Jimmy acts the way he does with Howard.
Hating Howard isn't a rational decision he made with complete information and a clear head. Hating Howard has been a lifestyle choice Jimmy lived with for years, possibly decades, before being thrown a curveball with Chuck being partially responsible, but Howard still going along with his decisions and willingly acting as his tool. It's not 100% clear what the timeline is, but he could have hated Howard as far back as when he first got rejected from being an associate back in the mailroom. That's a great deal of emotional inertia, and it's not even the first time we've seen it. You know how Jimmy spent decades loving and idolizing Chuck, but even though Chuck showed his true colors to Jimmy back in Season 1, it took until season 3 for him to actually hate Chuck and even at the end he still had a measure of affection for Chuck before Chuck toasted himself extra crispy? So, imagine the inverse of that for Howard. He's have to save Kim's life or something for Jimmy to do that kind of emotional turn around.
He also hates Howard from an abstract point of view. As in, he hates everything Howard represents, which is partially due to that he (and Chuck) were everything Jimmy wanted to be for a good portion of his life - Respected, Rich, classy, and legitimate. Remember that scene just from last season where he gives Kristy Esposito the talk about how they'll never accept her, only to go break down in his car because he was actually talking about how they'll never accept him. If you ask me, what bothers Jimmy about Howard offering a job at HHM isn't just what happened in the past, but the fact that Jimmy has struggled for so long, torn between his con-man instincts and his lawyerly aspirations, and it's only recently that he synthesized them - As Saul Goodman, he self-actualized by combining those two aspects in a way that is actually balanced. So I think what hurts Jimmy is that Howard offering this job hurts the self actualization, giving him a twinge of doubt and anxiety. Hey, you finally accepted yourself and worked out a way you can be who you are....but suddenly, there is that carrot on a stick dream of being an HHM employee, finally up for grabs. Admittedly, that might be me reading into it, but it seems more fitting that after his hopes for that finally died, he finds it upsetting to think that he might have to reinvent himself again if he decides that part of him still wants to be at HHM after all.
Lastly, because I think people keep forgetting this fact, Jimmy is an asshole. He's not an asshole to the ever shrinking list of people he likes and hangs out with, but if he was someone who regarded treating others fairly as a priority, he'd be a really shitty grifter. If you were to sit him down and try to argue that Howard's being genuine in his affection and good will towards him, Jimmy wouldn't be able to give good reasons for why he should hate Howard this much, but he wouldn't change because hating Howard is simply easier and more beneficial for his mental wellbeing. He doesn't care that Howard may not deserve it. Hating Howard is the simpler, easier emotional journey for him and that's all that matters to him. Howard and fairness can go fuck him-and-itself.
That last scene with Gus and Mike was awesome. It's crazy how Giancarlo can seem really intimidating in one scene, and incredibly likable and friendly in the next.