I wondered about that, then thought it was probably a time jump.
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I wondered about that, then thought it was probably a time jump.
I didn't get that impression.
Yeah. It was just to give the episode a cool cap. If they'd shown him shopping mid episode it wouldn't have worked half as well.
I don't think so. He was directly with the two hooligans prior to the lunch. You can tell by the tie and the rest of his get up. The pawnshop was a timeskip just by looking at his tie.
Edit* Just confirmed. The tie he's wearing at the end is the one from the beginning.
What the fuck did Howard do to deserve that?
That was me, I kinda take it back. I agree with Birbo and RedMercury that he was in a situation where because of Lalo he has lost men and almost 1 million bucks out of his control and he's pissed. Next episode he's def going after Lalo, he's tired of being reactive.
Looking forward to the episode where Kim berates Jim for being a pathetic clown lawyer who had to give himself a pathetic clown name. They must show that exchange, they can't just glance over such a major step downward in his career.
Based off of season 4's finale I thought the crack in their relationship would begin, but they're still going strong.
True, could be that.
I really don't get it and don't think alibi is the reason, but I'm also not smart enough to speculate on this lol.
I promise you I was waiting for him to start rolling up his sleeves again lmao.
Really? I somehow feel that with the "everything went as planned" line from Victor, that Gus wasn't really pissed and that he set this plan in motion. I'll re-watch again tonight to see how I feel again.
I agree with this. I think Howard was being serious and wouldn't use any extra effort toward slighting Jimmy.
The plan was a success because Gus's guy avoided arrest, the DEA got their money, Lalo still trusts Nacho and Gus's long-term plans aren't ruined. It's still a situation he would rather have avoided.
Okay, that's the part I'll need to re-watch because I didn't get that from it at all. From what i remember (I was tired and watched the digital version on AMC.com in the wee hours of the morning), I heard:
Victor: It's done, x y z.
Gus: And the money?
Victor: They got it - everything went as planned.
Gus: *breaks phone*
You heard exactly right. The plan was to mitigate the damage done by Lalo, and the plan succeeded. If an asteroid was about to hit your house and you diverted it with a missile so it only crushed your garage, you could say "we did it - everything went as planned". But you'd rather have avoided the whole situation.
I agree with the premise, I guess I just can't wrap my head around his reaction. It seems (to me) that if he had already known the money would be lost, he should be pleased that further damage was mitigated (or at the very least not furious at something he anticipated/planned for) but again I think I'm just not seeing the full picture. I sometimes have a hard time following plot-lines without a recent refresher (even from week to week) so apologies if I come across as dense lol.
Don't let his otherwise stoic demeanor fool you. Gus is a major Drama Llama.
I get where you're coming from, and you're not being dense. Gus may be relieved that Nacho's cover wasn't blown, and maybe a big sigh and a smile would have been what you'd have expected. But this is Gus Fring. He's incredibly prideful and has complete control over his business. We saw in Breaking Bad how far he's prepared to go to protect his bottom line. Lalo just inflicted a massive wound to his operation. Lalo Salamanca.
Okay, this frames it in a simpler way and what's important is that I had completely forgotten just how much he hates the Salamancas.
Ha! This is definitely true also. I'll be damned if his non-verbal communication doesn't speak volumes, even in what you'd imagine to be the lightest of situations.
It's so dumb, anyone who took a cursory look into Jimmy would know he's connected to Kim, hell they live together!
The show, based on the clip released, is thankfully smarter than this.
I think that was the last time we will see them two this season, but I could be wrong.
I heard that the Acker guy is a famous actor so you know he'll be an important character this season, but I didn't want this whole season to now revolve around Kim making a behind the scenes edition to go against her client that will eventually turn out to be a bad idea. After all, she did blow up in his face with a strong foot the first time she met him. She made her point, I wish she would have let it go. Even though she is taking a stand against the law for what seems to be morally correct.
never thought about it that way - but Kim and jimmy both like breaking the law/rules, while Kim does it for moral good, jimmy does it for personal gain
I dunno. Personally I'm not looking forward to whatever finally comes between them and more so if something horrible happens to Kim.
Now Gus extracting his revenge on Lalo? That I can't wait for.
I took it more as just the show doing the "Eliot offers Walt a job" thing again.
After extensive in-store testing they were found to be just the right weight to throw over the gate. The more you think about it the less sense it makes, but it made for a fun ending.
Saul not giving a shit about his client potentially robbing his grandmother just so he gets paid was...cold
I thought he was gonna say no I'm not gonna take your grandma's money cos of his past work with wills 😢
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Ok. Maybe I am forgetting things, but why did Jimmy do that to Howard? I thought they were on ok-ish terms at the end of last season.
I think it was him saying they made the mistake by not hiring him in the first place and now all of a sudden he gives a crap now that he see's Jimmy doing fine on his own and without the need to follow in the footsteps of the firm his brother built. Howard was never always the bad guy but Chuck pretty much turned him against Jimmy.
I wonder if Jimmy's official address is still the nail salon.
Anyone know why Gennifer Hutchison is no longer working on the show? She's been with the team in some capacity since the beginning of Breaking Bad.
I wonder if she and Vince are working on something together since he isn't involved much this year either.
I wonder if she and Vince are working on something together since he isn't involved much this year either.
Howard's not necessarily a bad guy, he's just a douche. Like he's genuinely trying to be a better person, but he consistently misreads how he comes off to people because he's been so priveleged his entire adult life.
Of course, Jimmy is the one mostly in the wrong for being a petty asshole, but then again he's not Jimmy now. He's leaning into becoming Saul.
Of course, Jimmy is the one mostly in the wrong for being a petty asshole, but then again he's not Jimmy now. He's leaning into becoming Saul.
Hollywood way of cutting network communication/evidence/tracking.
It's lazy but it's a classic trope.
What? Howard's a legitimately good person and Jimmy is a piece of shit compared to him.
Of course Kim would sleep up the broken beer bottle glass.
I hope Gus throws something extra in Lyle's check for all that scrubbing on the deep fryer.
The show continues to do process better than any other.
I hope Gus throws something extra in Lyle's check for all that scrubbing on the deep fryer.
The show continues to do process better than any other.
Really good interview that goes in depth into Kim's mindset in general and in regard to Saul.
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Disagree, for Gus, imo that was showing an temper tantrum. Like, throwing phone in the wall, kicking stuff over in the office, rage level.
Oh I know, I've seen it a bunch over the years and assumed it was to 'get rid of the burner/evidence' as you suggested. I only mentioned it in terms of sequence of events/flow of convo to understand why folks here were saying he was pissed even though everything went "as planned".
He did it angrily, because he was angry. But he did it for the same reason people on TV always do it. It magically removes all trace of the call.
But they are untraceable burner phones according to respected lawyer Saul Goodman.